Basic Channel Records ... Educate Me, Please.

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carl craig mix & maurizio mix? i have them but they're both over 12mb - can yahoo take that?

jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 September 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

in fact they are both 15mb+

dan, check Leonardo thread later.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 September 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

can i just say

1) not getting the soundstream hate. that track is fresh

2) i can actually listen to the francois k mix all the way through now w/o recoiling in horror or leaping up to change the track. it's not terrible, merely totally insipid and uninspired. and completely lacking in bass or dynamics. i'd rather listen to just about ANYBODY from nu-drum'n'bass do a version ... why not get a german, like pieter k??

3) really really really really feeling vladislav delay's version. SO DOPE.

POX^3 (let x=2) (vahid), Monday, 25 September 2006 04:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i think calling the basic see mi version "by the numbers" is kind of missing the point...

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 25 September 2006 05:08 (seventeen years ago) link

doing a very basic dub recording of their own rhythm is exactly what we would have expected them to do

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 25 September 2006 05:11 (seventeen years ago) link

vainqueur did the same thing but i think that his, the reshape, and the soundstream remix are the best. carl craig and vlad delay a close second tier.

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 25 September 2006 05:13 (seventeen years ago) link

no no no delay is just as good as the others

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 25 September 2006 05:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I adore the Vladislav Delay mix - I wish the new Luomo album was as good (perhaps it would have been if he'd played with some reggae vocals rather than the same fucking vocalist over and over again). Love the way it finishes off Jeffery Mac's 'Meditations in Dub' set as well.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 25 September 2006 05:45 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...
so, q 1.1. perfectly melancholy. i love the keys in the first track. i think that quadrant might be my favorite BC project. it's just so simple and easy to listen to. i love the whole series but there are moments when i do not want to hear enforcement or octaedre, but the quadrant records always hit the spot.

and inversion! damn you vahid! it took me so long to hear this song because i followed your advice. i love that high-tuned kick, just banging out the time among all the reverbed chords. it sounds like it's in a completely different space than the rest of the track.

friday on the porch (lfam), Friday, 12 January 2007 06:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Soundstream remix = my #1 track of 2006. My favorite group remixed by my second favorite group! I wish I knew how to write becaus I feel like there is so much going on in that track that I can't really express.

tylero (tylero), Friday, 12 January 2007 07:14 (seventeen years ago) link

tell me about it

friday on the porch (lfam), Friday, 12 January 2007 07:19 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
he never told me about it ;_;

friday on the porch (lfam), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:00 (seventeen years ago) link

you have not heard the Soundstream remix? that is odd. i got a Fluxion record ("Largo") that is fucking tight shit, do you like their mainstreet stuffs?

the table is the table (treesessplode), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:05 (seventeen years ago) link

no, i love the soundstream remix! i just wanted him to talk about it more because it seemed like he really loved it, too. i love main street, but i've yet to explore chain reaction.

friday on the porch (lfam), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i will ss the Fluxion to you-- the b2 is like BC on waves of ambient noise.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:17 (seventeen years ago) link

buy this instead

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:30 (seventeen years ago) link

THIS THREAD IS FOR DUBBY GERMAN MINIMALISM, NOT FUCKING NORWEGIANS.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:35 (seventeen years ago) link

ah sorry RONG MUSIC

that's not dubby at all, don't buy that

i meant buy this and this instead ... that's the proper dub house stuff

oh and this too

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:36 (seventeen years ago) link

thx for clarification. though tussle? really?

the table is the table (treesessplode), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:38 (seventeen years ago) link

as MAN LIKE MIKE TAYLOR once said

Seasons Recordings is like the underground techno label that that separates the men from the boys; every corny indie fuck in the world has the BC catalogue in a silver EFA tin, but not too many people know about DJ Spun. Hyper minimal difficult electronics, not for tourists or the faint of heart.

-- The Rebukes of Hazard (current31...), April 15th, 2004 2:52 AM. (mjt)

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:38 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe the last tussle i heard was not the tussle you are speaking of.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:39 (seventeen years ago) link

nah, i'm sure it was. just saying, at some point people gotta move on from cavernous synthy german dub house.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:44 (seventeen years ago) link

at some point

friday on the porch (lfam), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link

well, the last tussle i heard was about four years ago, so maybe it's time to revisit. it was okay then, but i was really into grime and devendra banhart then, so i wasn't paying much attention. *urgh*

the table is the table (treesessplode), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:55 (seventeen years ago) link

the last time i heard tussle was at a tiny houseparty in the basement and they were doing ESG with drum circle interludes. but this kid i know that used to work at amoeba told me recently he's been playing drums for them and they've gotten a bit more experimental, a bit more This Heat-ish. i'm definitely intrigued. i also might ask him to give me drum lessons.

jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 06:11 (seventeen years ago) link

house party was like 4 yrs ago

jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 06:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Soundstream remix = my #1 track of 2006. My favorite group remixed by my second favorite group! I wish I knew how to write becaus I feel like there is so much going on in that track that I can't really express. I'm dumb I guess

tylero (tylero), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 06:32 (seventeen years ago) link

My favorite Seasons nee Earthtones record: http://www.discogs.com/release/1277

I bought so much west-coast house in 1998 and 1999

tylero (tylero), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 06:36 (seventeen years ago) link

wh3rd to 2004.

This is my favorite cr 12":
http://www.discogs.com/release/25934

Apparently the guy only made one record. A real shame, as his record is one of the best things that came out of a relatively mediocre label.

If you condense Fluxion's Vibrant Forms I&II into a single cd you get some of the best dubby minimalism of the 90's.

http://www.discogs.com/release/650
http://www.discogs.com/release/706

I went into a trance state while driving through a snow storm with a cdr comp of these two albums. It was 11am on a Saturday and I was completely sober. It was a 45 minute drive, but I felt like I was in the car for about 3 hours. When I parked my car at home it was like I came to; I wasn't quite sure how I got there. It was one of the strangest experiences of my life. Vahid will probably make fun of me endlessly, but I have to give Fluxion props. You don't come across records like that every day.

This was a great label for this kind of music, especially DC10-14:
http://www.discogs.com/label/Deepchord

But the funny thing is that this guy went on to do these records for Octal and they are the best thing he ever did. I got these as promos back in the day and packed them away back in Michigan. I brought them back to Texas this summer, fucking amazing records:

http://www.discogs.com/release/45234
http://www.discogs.com/release/126958

This Man-Like man needs to go to bed. Good night fellas.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:45 (seventeen years ago) link

one more thing...

It is more on the ambient tip, but it is absolutely breathtaking:
http://www.discogs.com/release/584472

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:47 (seventeen years ago) link

doing a very basic dub recording of their own rhythm is exactly what we would have expected them to do

... in 1997. They've learned a few new tricks since then and I didn't feel the need to hear Maurizio M remake #4839B

(I am aware that the Vainqueur remix, which I love, is also stuck in 1997 so feel free to rebut my shaky logic along these lines)

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:59 (seventeen years ago) link

no need ;)

friday on the porch (lfam), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

disco n, thxxxxxxx!!

i is listening to Scion.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

the Bipolar Defect 2LP is like water slowly flowing down a valley on a frozen steppe.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 04:27 (seventeen years ago) link

forgot to bid on a whole bunch of OOP CR 12"s last week which subsequently went for 1.50 euros each. fuck.

a (rslvd), Thursday, 1 February 2007 08:41 (seventeen years ago) link

also has no-one repped for this yet? total classic

a (rslvd), Thursday, 1 February 2007 10:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm still pissed off at Basic Channel Dude for the shitty show he put on in New York four years ago with um, not Tikiman but somebody else. first he did a "DJ set" which turned out to be bog-standard roots reggae for two straight hours. even after they started doing live stuff they never got up to house tempo that i recall. why did he think people were there????

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 February 2007 11:41 (seventeen years ago) link

lol "house tempo". it was probably rhythm & sound

am0n (am0n), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

yes exactly. i have many rhythm and sound records and like them all. they are all at something like 130-140 bpm. OK maybe that's more techno tempo. everything they played was like half that. which is fine i guess, but not why i like them.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't understand the tussle/basic channel connection here

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i think vahid's message is "omg noobs"

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

All the Melvins records I have are fast, but I saw them live and it was slow. WOT GIVES.

sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Surely it was billed as a 45" session?

jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

don't worry, I fixed it in ProTools

sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

the rhythm and sound records i have are reggae tempo and sound like reggae and have reggae singers occasionally. also i think the two guys like roots reggae

am0n (am0n), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah obv a little.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i have many rhythm and sound records and like them all. they are all at something like 130-140 bpm.

i think that you and i are listening to different r & s records.

also, vahid is pretty much always 'omg noobs.' which is at times refreshing and at times pure arrogance. (and in this case, after an investigation, Tussle are none too good. in fact, i'd venture to say Tussle kinda sucks.)

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

really really really really reaaaaaaaallly good

bc-02 - phylyps "trak"
bc-03 - lyot "reshape"
bc-07 - "octagon" / "octaedre"


really really really really good

bc-04 - quadrant "1.1"
bc-08 - "radiance"
bc-qd - quadrant "infinition"
bc-cd - CD compilation


really really good but not sure what the point was

bc-01 - cyrus "enforcement"
bc-09 - phylyps "trak ii"
tresor 100 - scion arrange and process basic channel tracks


merely really good though sometimes boring

bc-05 - cyrus "inversion"
bc-06 - quadrant "dub"

-- vahid (vfoz...) (webmail), March 26th, 2006 3:27 AM. (vahid)

am0n (am0n), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i really like that Scion record. otherwise, he's sort of right on.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

The Scion mix CD is a better introduction to BC than the BC comp. It's become one of my all-time fave mixes.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link


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