'splain this one to me: Renegade Soundwave

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wow, The Jackal, had no idea about that! I only learned about all the Rema Rema/Wolfgang Press connections a year or so ago.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 13 May 2005 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't forget that Marco Pirroni was in Rema Rema too. He went on to join a friend in some band.. Adam something...

donut debonair (donut), Friday, 13 May 2005 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I've got the Sabres mix of Brixton on CD... damn good, but not much of the regular tune left to it unfortunately. No vocals that I can recall. There are also a shedload of Positive ID/Positive Mindscape remixes, some of which are good and some of which aren't that are on CD only, I think -- the 12" only had a couple but they released two CDs worth.

Hutlock (Hutlock), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Also as far as remixes of others:

I know there is an RSW remix of PWEI's "Touched By The Hand Of Cicciolina" but I've never heard it -- seen it on eBay and got outbid a while back.

Also, far easier to find is a remix of Nitzer Ebb's "Lightning Man." I think you might still be able to buy that direct from Mute UK online even. And I just checked and a LOT of the old RSW singles are still in print from them too -- on vinyl and CD -- including the Women Respond To Bass joint! Wahoo!!!

Hutlock (Hutlock), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link

And there is another PWEI mix, from their later days:

"Underbelly" (Renegade Soundwave Blackout Mix)

which is on the Two Fingers My Friends Remixes album. Again, never heard it...

Hutlock (Hutlock), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link

don't know where it's from, but I downloaded a Renegade Soundwave remix of Gary Numan's Are Friend's Electric? Haven't decided if it's brilliant or useless yet.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

RSW vs PWEI remix of Cicciolina is pretty boring to be honest. if anyone has a desire .. then get in touch.

same goes for that underbelly remix .. i may have that somewhere ... have no recollection of if its a good un .. as that album is chocka with good/bad mixes (mostly good though)

mark e (mark e), Thursday, 19 May 2005 06:40 (eighteen years ago) link

ah I forgot about the Cicciolina remix! it's v v minimal and sounds like a loop of two bars from a track from Joe Strummer's score for Walker, with the hum of a switched-off television in the background. it is TOTALLY ACE ...er though mark e's viewpoint is one that is easy to understand.

kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 19 May 2005 12:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I find their remixes to be like that sometime -- vv minimal that is. Check the Shamen Lightspan mix, same deal. Must have been a phase they were going through or something, but I agree, it is totally amazing. Check their own Biting My Nails remixes from around that time too -- Bassnumb Chapter and Sound System Plays A Renegade Tune. Those mixes are absolutely KILLERS.

Hutlock (Hutlock), Thursday, 19 May 2005 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link


here's a old/new RSW mix i had completely forgotten about :

http://ireallylovemusic.blogspot.com

i had forgotten they remixed bassomatics classic 'fascinating rhythm'.

wasn't until i dug the 'ease on by' ep out of the archive i realised.

so for the sake of this thread i have added it to the internet archive.

m.e

mark e (mark e), Monday, 23 May 2005 06:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Just downloaded the Cicciolina remix, I love it. It's basically just a drum beat with the swirling synth string sound from the Women Respond to Bass remixes. Doesn't really go anywhere, but sounds nice just sitting there. Also dl'd the other PWEI mix, Underbelly. It's way too downtempo and trip-hoppy for my taste.

re: Bassomatic, a reminder that William Orbit's friend and often collaborator Rico Conning worked with Renegade Soundwave and other likeminded bands at the time. Prior to that he was in the post-punk band the Lines, who I hope to soon be reissuing.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 23 May 2005 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Is that Bassomatic RSW mix on the Ease On By EPs then? I've got them somewhere in the archives on 12" (two of them, one blue one green?) but didn't remember them remixing anything there...

Danny -- feel free to send me the Cicciolina remix! I am dying to hear it now!

Hutlock (Hutlock), Monday, 23 May 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

hutlock. yes.

the RSW mix is indeed on the 'ease on by' cd ep .. not sure if its on the vinyl versions ..

mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 06:19 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
hello again!

so I had a moment at work and was researching Wide Boy Awake, Kevin Mooney from Adam and the Ant's eclectic 3 or so ep's and that was it early/mid 80s act who gave us the suprise new wave dance classic Slang Teacher. While talking about the old punk days connections were made to fellow Ant Marco Pirronni and his prior band Rema Rema, which of course featured Gary from Renegade Soundwave(as well as 2 later Wolfgang Press).

I then see on the 4ad page that they put out a limited edition CD of the awesome Rema Rema 12" with notes by Kevin Mooney.

Then catching up with everyone, Mooney is working with Gary Ainsworth in a band called Lavender Pill Mob, which brought me to these links:

http://www.lecoqmusique.co.uk/

as well as a band called Mike's Bikes featuring Adam Ant. I suppose this query could be posted on an Adam Ant thread as well, but I'll take any chance to revive a Renegade Soundwave thread.

So what's this all about? This stuff any good? They also refer to him as Gary Ainsworth, so I'm confused.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link

and what about Mass?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:09 (eighteen years ago) link

and how did Darren Le Coq get involved?

(haha, I think I posted the same links on a *doodly doodly* Adam Ant thread! So all bases covered now. Good job, Dan. :) )

donut gon' nut (donut), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link

so you haven't heard any of this either?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm damned intrigued from the sound of it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 00:21 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm bumping this because somebody out there must've heard Lavender Pill Mob!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I might just have to order this and found out.

donut gon' nut (donut), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

"I'd like to fuck them out."

His shitty rapping actually helps this line, makes it more unexpected. "Soundclash" is indeed v good.

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

anyone heard Mikes Bikes yet ? i may be getting a chance soon ..

mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 09:08 (eighteen years ago) link

is the rsw gary asquith the same one that was in mutabor with half of malaria! ?

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 10:01 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
wasn't familiar with it but it seems likely.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Heh. I tried to get my girlfriend into RSW, since she likes things that I think are similar (dance stuff from the '80s), but she looked at me like I was an enfeebled child with a mouthful of crayons.
The two disc '87-95 seems to lean hard on the "turbo" house mixes, which I don't like nearly as much as the dubbier stuff.
Oddly enough, both these guys and Wolfgang Press were mid-'90s CMJ darlings that were wildly misrepresented by their sampler cuts...

js (honestengine), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Soundclash still the best record ever.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I wish I still had my copy of "Thunder II". I can't remember which b-side it was, but one of them was extreme dubby fantasticness.

FYI: I was thinking of "Manphibian" here

I lettered in Sam and Carl (HI DERE), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Manphibian and Mash-Up are both awesome. A great ep.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

recently read the Murder Music was originally a Rema Rema song. (Or Mass?) Makes sense. I would kill to hear an original recording of it if there ever was one.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

I am tempted to nominate these guys in the hip-hop poll

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I purchased an album of theirs because Pop Will Eat Itself listed them as something they dug on "Can You Dig It."

I didn't.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

you should try again, and then keep trying until you love them

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

RSW >>> PWEI

dan selzer, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

especially as PWEI went on; the Poppies had 2 albums that were as consistently good as the RSW material but they had to ramp up to it and they fell off relatively quickly after they hit their stride

This is the Day... and Cure For Sanity are amazing tho

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember jjj picked up the "Biting My Nails" single as a result of "Can U Dig It?" and by the time we got to "Kray Twins" we both knew RSW fucking owned

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

PWEI>>>Ciccone Youth

dan selzer, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

?

bamcquern, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

just comparing the poppies to people they reference in Can U DIg It?

dan selzer, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Ohh.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

"Murder Music" is one of the greatest songs ever recorded

DJP, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

"Murder Music" is one of the greatest song ever recorded

dan selzer, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

wait djp did you say upthread that you dont have a copy of thunder II anymore

pretty sure i do. i know i have that thinline cd maxisingle w/biting my nails and cocaine sex on it

lemon kerrang! (jjjusten), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

and kray twins! apparently i have the one that enigma put out with 2 mixes of biting my nails, although iirc its just a vocal and an instrumental club mix so prob no great rarity there

lemon kerrang! (jjjusten), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

I purchased an album of theirs because Pop Will Eat Itself listed them as something they dug on "Can You Dig It."

I didn't.

― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, April 5, 2011 12:40 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 22:46 (twelve years ago) link

i have that thinline cd maxisingle w/biting my nails and cocaine sex on it

― lemon kerrang! (jjjusten), Wednesday, June 29, 2011 2:53 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

i mean, it's kind of blowing my mind that other went through exactly the same folly of youth shit. and it wasn't an "album" i bought, it was exactly that thin-case maxi single. eventually came to like one of the songs, think it was the "biting nails" club dub.

http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-263701-1299762439.jpeg

^ this one

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

music > ac/dc > run-DMC > riffs > disco sound > "leader of the pack" > spinderella > "hit the north" > "into the groove(y) > "da doo ron ron" > renegade soundwave

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link

listening back, i love the music on all three tracks, but hate the vocalist, no exceptions

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

enjoying this, but it seems more pop than club

renegade soundwave renegade soundwave

moroccanized

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 23:13 (twelve years ago) link


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