Nu-metal:Search and destroy

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Search - Deftones, System Of A Down, Tool.

Destroy - all the others.

Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 3 January 2004 20:29 (twenty years ago) link

DJ Martial mentioned loads of excellent bands who utterly aren't nu-meral (big up to The God Machine), but I think such things would better be aimed at a board that's going to defend nu-metal.

How I wish all these Korn-hoody-wearing self-proclaimed-neo-'goths' would shut up and listen to Godflesh...

Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 3 January 2004 20:48 (twenty years ago) link

Tool isn't nu-metal, Stupid. They're more part of the early 90's so-called "alt-metal" thing (Helmet, Prong, Rage Against the Machine,etc.) that was a pre-cursor to nu-metal. They're definitely an influence on Nu-metal bands, and share an overlapping fanbase, but they're not as one-dimensional and they have better taste. Nu-metal really starts with Korn and the Deftones. The Deftones of course got better with each album, but anything worthwhile Korn had to say was with their first record, which is basically the prototype for most nu-metal bands that followed. Anyway, search: Deftones, System of a Down, Korn's first album, some Slipknot maybe. Destroy: pretty much everything else.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 4 January 2004 08:21 (twenty years ago) link

Is At the Drive In nu-Metal, or something else? I remember liking one of their albs.

plebian plebs (plebian), Sunday, 4 January 2004 08:39 (twenty years ago) link

They're more punk/hardcore/post-hardcore, I'd say. Not really much to do with nu-metal, save for having Ross robinson produce one of their albums. Closer to the type of bands that some refer to as emo, though that itself is another post-punk/hardcore manifestation. Anyway, they're all just genre tags and genre is as malleable as putty in a rock critic's word processesor.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 4 January 2004 08:54 (twenty years ago) link

In what way is nu-metal NOT punk/hardcore/post-hardcore?

Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:32 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. email me if u have a problem, and ill kick ur ass.

MeTaL RuLeS, Thursday, 29 January 2004 21:31 (twenty years ago) link

please post a pic of yourself!

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 29 January 2004 21:35 (twenty years ago) link

Here I yam -- toot toot!

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v20/durstrocks/9.jpg

MeTuL RuLeZ (Ian Christe), Thursday, 29 January 2004 22:12 (twenty years ago) link

*backs down*

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 29 January 2004 22:14 (twenty years ago) link

That pic's Fred Durst auditioning for On the town.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 29 January 2004 22:33 (twenty years ago) link

three years pass...

Is it finally dead now?

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 2 August 2007 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link

System of a Down is the only thing left.

humansuit, Thursday, 2 August 2007 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I didnt listen to hair metal at the time, so I missed out on the grounding for the current nostalgiafest. It seems to me both hair and nu metal are loud and have lots of riffs: hair is a bit more playful and nu is more intense, but then wasnt the playfulness of hair and the intensity of *grunge* why everyone said hair had to die anyway? Nu is also arguably more musically interesting cos of the hip-hop elements - there are more places it could go.

Both of them trade in exaggerated and absurdified masculine images - hair has queeny glam braggadocio, nu has the tats and piercings look (the masculine body warping and modifying under culture-pressure). This allows both genres to achieve moments of sudden tenderness which are more affecting because you're not expecting them (though maybe by this point you should be).

The critical reaction to nu metal is fascinating - all of the old critical saws which people get jumped on here for applying to pop any more (they dont mean it! its commodified! its old hat! rich people shouldnt be angry! its just for 15 year olds!) have achieved glittering new life in the nu-metal-crit arena.

Search and Destroy? No idea, mate.

-- Tom, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 01:00

What do you think now, Tom?

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 2 August 2007 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

I just saw a TV ad for the new Korn album. Fucking hell.

At least the Deftones are still making interesting music. I never really considered them nu-metal; though they associated/toured with all those other bands I don't need to mention, they never really fit in with that crowd to me. I could easily imagine them having a record on Hydra Head, for example (which would instantly make the hipsters love 'em to bits).

MacDara, Friday, 3 August 2007 12:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Hipsters already did like Deftones. Because they were actually good.

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 3 August 2007 12:22 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

Is it finally dead now?

-- Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, August 2, 2007 2:04 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark Link

Eisbaer, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 01:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I think nu-metal and post-hardcore have bled into each other to a degree that we have bottom-heavy screamo now, but that's about it.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 01:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Search: Papa Roach's "Last resort"---Whiny angst rock with a great medieval sounding stop-start riff

Whcih was totally ripped off the intro of this.

chap, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 01:58 (fifteen years ago) link

deftones uber alles

brightscreamer, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 03:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I went to a Deftones show once. To see Will Haven.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 09:41 (fifteen years ago) link

This was a treat. Thanks.

-- Nate Carson, Tuesday, June 3, 2008 9:23 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

latebloomer, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 09:49 (fifteen years ago) link

?

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 10:25 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Search: the last 50 seconds or so of 'Chop Suey!'

Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nu_metal/Archive_1

markers, Friday, 9 September 2011 08:07 (twelve years ago) link

Excuse me, but why this article's authors are absolutely convinced that Red Hot Chili Peppers have not to be considered nu metal inspirators? (unsigned)

markers, Friday, 9 September 2011 08:07 (twelve years ago) link

eleven months pass...

last band stsnding?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcveAwvgp5E&feature=fvwrel

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 01:42 (eleven years ago) link

and the only one i ever really liked too! shows what great taste me and the australians have. slipknot still a thing in the u.k. too, no?

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 01:43 (eleven years ago) link

this has better sound. SERIOUS slipknot fans at knebworth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzshp82CmnU&NR=1&feature=endscreen

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 01:54 (eleven years ago) link

I'm just glad I saw the Chaos AD tour.

Also saw Korn open for Ozzy in '95. Terrible!

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 04:25 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. email me if u have a problem, and ill kick ur ass.
― MeTaL RuLeS, Thursday, January 29, 2004 4:31 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i love how categorical this post is. i mean, i just wanna ask this guy, "so, Korn is REALLY better than Beethoven? Papa Roach is better than John Coltrane? do you even know who Beethoven or Coltrane WERE?!?"

email him if u have a problem!

unfinest DN (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link

it would be really funny if he's still so militant on this topic 9 years later ...

and so it begins ..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/jun/07/download-festival-nu-metal

personally, as an old man, i cant wait to be able to play my linkin park collection (courtesy of playlouder !), and not worry re the sneering masses ...

mark e, Saturday, 8 June 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link

i love how categorical this post is. i mean, i just wanna ask this guy, "so, Korn is REALLY better than Beethoven? Papa Roach is better than John Coltrane? do you even know who Beethoven or Coltrane WERE?!?"

― عليك ارتداء ماكياج من مهرج مثلي الجنس المتداول مائة عميق في سيارة مصغر (Eisbaer),

haha u r old

j., Saturday, 8 June 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link

four years pass...

I was given DED's debut album to listen to.

This is the most horrible shit I've ever heard in my life.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 27 July 2017 02:05 (six years ago) link

Have you listened to korn unplugged?

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 27 July 2017 03:06 (six years ago) link

roger adultery (roger adultery) at 4:43 9 Mar 03

i think the song you refer to is by Kid Rock, who, as a celebrity / personality, I like much much better than Coldplay.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 27 July 2017 03:08 (six years ago) link

Pvmic

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 27 July 2017 03:09 (six years ago) link

lol otm

Neanderthal, Thursday, 27 July 2017 03:11 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

D: 2016 cover of Michael Jackson's 'They Don't Care About Us' by Saliva that seemingly retains the original 'Jew me' line while omitting the, uh, other one.

peace, man, Saturday, 19 December 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKxE9uE1lXo

peace, man, Saturday, 19 December 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

*presses play*

syke

cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Sunday, 20 December 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link


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