Robert Bresson: Search & Destroy

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Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 25 October 2009 05:54 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

i think lancelot du lac is the one ive liked the best or maybe i was just in the perfect mood for it, uncertainty and dread and severity. idk i thought it was really good, ive been kinda thinking about it all day

Lamp, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

it is surely one of his very best. the jousting!

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

haha yeah! its so tense but also anticlimactic, almost? amateursit tell why this movie is so good tho, is it the lighting???

Lamp, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

no, it's the ambient sounds!

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

should revisit this one. does anyone else like his 'joan of arc' film a lot?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

syuzhet and fabula!!! (xp)

Lamp, Friday, 4 May 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

I just saw the Joan recently, it's fine, as good a climax as imaginable (perhaps better than Dreyer's).

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 May 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

saw "Joan" years ago -- maybe the closest Bresson came to dull craftsmanship.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

dr. morbius you can tell me why lancelot is so good too. (xp)

Lamp, Friday, 4 May 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

syuzhet and fabula!!!

best stalin-era comedy duo ever!

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

i particularly like their "who's on first?" routine.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

i agreed with what i understood to be the thesis of the article you linked but reading it made me laugh p hard i always forget that jargon is the humanities version of ~equations~

Lamp, Friday, 4 May 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

this note of bresson's seems relevant:

Slow films in which everyone gallops and gesticulates; quick films in which people hardly move.

raymond durgnat called red psalm 'processional' cinema, and lancelot du lac seems to fit that, too

(best joan of arc movie(s)= the full-length rivette version imho)

Ward Fowler, Friday, 4 May 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

that article is not really super-jargony, once you get past several russian formalist terms -- it's surely not written in a way designed to impede understanding as is often the case w/ academics.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

quick films in which people hardly move.

ha! he basically anticipates the matrix sequels.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

no no give or take a 'parametric variations' her style is quite good and clear it just struck me as funny perhaps because i am working/avoiding working on a paper stuffed full of equations atm

anyway 'ambient sounds' was a good answer, thank you for playing

Lamp, Friday, 4 May 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i see. the book is very nearly all _about_ "parametric narration" and the introduction lays that all out pretty clearly IIRC. it's not the best-written article ever but i think it gets at some of the things that make the movie special.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

(best joan of arc movie(s)= the full-length rivette version imho)

kinda interesting that so many of the best filmmakers have taken on this subject -- offhand i can't think of any other historical figure who's gotten that much attention. maybe napoleon, if we count kubrick's abandoned project.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus?

xpost

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

jesus: 359 films
adolf hitler: 341 films
abraham lincoln: 300 films
joan of arc: 82 films

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link

don king: 9 films

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

i think bresson's joan of arc film is interesting, like all his films. the one i don't have much patience with is "a gentle woman."

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

the casting of Dominique Sanda is all too easy.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

jesus: 359 films
adolf hitler: 341 films
abraham lincoln: 300 films
joan of arc: 82 films

i guess i meant 'great' filmmakers, as in it's interesting that ppl of the caliber of dreyer, bresson and rivette all felt compelled to take on joan. jesus is a good suggestion, tho, and lincoln has at least two greats in his corner (griffith and ford).

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link

dreyer, bresson and rivette

don't forget luc besson!

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

and Otto Perminger!

Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link

the making of doc on the mouchette criterion is really awesome imo

johnny crunch, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link

Dreyer and Besson ftw!

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

seven years pass...

Interesting - and gossipy - obit for Francois Weyergans, who made a documentary about Bresson and whose wife at the time later married Bresson and became his main collaborator:

https://www.sabzian.be/note/franรงois-weyergans-1941-2019?fbclid=IwAR2SpKhdd6s_68_kVLqhXQIMk1q3Z9eL6B80D8e_OBxIJuwGeU1xRbbQ7L8

Ward Fowler, Monday, 10 June 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

Greatest character in film history is Charles in The Devil Probably (1977). Just tools around Paris talking shit on everyone he meets between getting his fuck on and doing suicide attempts. Total legend.

— ๐–œ๐–Š ๐–†๐–—๐–Š ๐–†๐–‘๐–‘ ๐–Ž๐–“ ๐–‰๐–†๐–“๐–Œ๐–Š๐–— (@NickPinkerton) March 27, 2018

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 22:54 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

watched again tonight and it is true

flappy bird, Thursday, 18 June 2020 07:01 (three years ago) link

Charles is like a couple of Parisians I've known

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 18 June 2020 07:23 (three years ago) link

indefinite integral of co-sign

Soft Mutation Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 June 2020 11:00 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

This is old news but hasn't been mentioned here: Four Nights of a Dreamer came out in a decent transfer on Blu-Ray in Japan a few years back. Seems it is also on Amazon Prime in the USA (I don't live there so I can't check the quality). But it's nice that this film is out there and looking OK. It can't touch his greatest films, but it certainly should be seen by every Bresson head and the movie premiere scene is great and memorable.

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapรผk), Friday, 16 October 2020 02:48 (three years ago) link

I have Prime for two more days and no, it's not available in the US. :(

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 17 October 2020 03:10 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

Destroy: Joan of Arc movie

โ€• Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto)

rong

G. Dโ€™Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 08:07 (one year ago) link

Getting into Bresson has been the greatest outcome of watching more old movies at home during the pandemic. Went to LA in September on a few weeksโ€™ notice specifically to watch six of them in the theatre courtesy of American Cinemateque. Country Priest in 35mm and Lancelot in a recent 4K were both incredible, first time seeing each of them. The man was right about acting.

G. Dโ€™Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 08:11 (one year ago) link

Great to read about Bresson still working his magic on newcomers. I envy you.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 09:14 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QvvIpXrnCA

buzza, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 09:57 (one year ago) link

Destroy: Joan of Arc movie

โ€• Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto)

rong

โ€• G. Dโ€™Arcy Cheesewright (silby)

I was, yeah.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

Showing Pickpocket to my enthusiastic students in October was one of my premier teaching experiences.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

You have a premium-level student subscription level?

The Dark End of the Tweet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

SubscriptioN?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

Sorry. Was making a bad joke because you said โ€œpremium experience.โ€

The Dark End of the Tweet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

FYI, Four Nights of a Dreamer is streaming right now at Le Cinรฉma Club.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 24 December 2022 04:31 (one year ago) link


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