jenny mccarthy wants your kid to get measles: autism, vaccines, and stupid idiots

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it doesn't seem like there's any kind of confirmed link from the flu shot to the dystonia, but that cheerleader shit is pretty crazy.

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

the luminati is doing all this shit

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

its sad i mean she cld have cheered for a pro football team all that waste dam u luminati

legit 40 (Lamp), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

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she iz very pretty

no homo

ok which one of you wiseguys made me lol here

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahahahaha

Jesus, the Czar of Czars (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link

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Another beautiful girl...RUINED BY SOCIETY!!!!

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 23 October 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

if only this could have happened to an ugly fat person!

harbl, Friday, 23 October 2009 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link

how wld we even tell a difference??

legit 40 (Lamp), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

:?

harbl, Friday, 23 October 2009 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

What a disaster for amazingly beautiful cheerleaders.

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 23 October 2009 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

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lol this board is full of nothing but liberals laughing and praising the suffering of another human being. Fox news dosnt celebrate the suffering of people like the liberal bias on you tube does.
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Ok I'll stop for a while.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 23 October 2009 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

"she iz very pretty

no homo"

has kind of broken my ability to stop laffing

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Friday, 23 October 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link

People, especially upscale West Coast Americans, have developed this cult of food & body control, where everything that goes in must be rigidly controlled for nutritional, ethical and even spiritual reasons (often a tangle of the three). The self is validated and protected by the extent to which control is exercised, and is threatened to the extent that it breaks down. In some cases, the pathology is fantastically rigid, and the ingestion of even a tiny particle of meat or non-organic produce can become the most horrendous sort of physical/emotional violation.

wasn't this a todd haynes movie?

amateurist, Saturday, 24 October 2009 01:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Wired magazine has a nice cover story about "the Epidemic of Fear"

kingfish, Saturday, 24 October 2009 02:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Article online now: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_waronscience/all/1

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 29 October 2009 23:46 (fourteen years ago) link

The follow up on the Dystonia cheerleader is pretty fascinating/outrageous/infuriating/etc., incidentally - she's now "cured" of all of her symptoms because of special treatments she got from an oft-discredited anti-vax figure named "Dr. Buttar" (i.e. she had basically just been suffering from a psychogenic situation, as had been diagnosed by everyone with any sense of reality):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD1BAxVnFdc&feature=player_embedded

hmmmm...this reminds me of back when spin magazine kept saying there was no connection between HIV and AIDS

Funny M@tt mentions this - I had been digging through some old Spins not too long ago and came across a few of these articles, (which I would have skipped over obliviously in the early '90s), and which are so fucking insane that one can't possibly believe they were printed in a national magazine. Anyway, the huge celebrity proponent of this HIV-doesn't-cause-AIDS movement was Dave Grohl and the Foo Fighters, who played lots of benefit concerts organized by the now deceased Christine Maggiore. Reading these columns knowing Maggiore and her child would be dead 10 years later make them even crazier.

I guess the bass player (who was also in Sunny Day Real Estate) was the driving force of the band being involved - I'd be very curious to hear their take on this nowadays.

Agh, it's all so creepy.

Shannon Whirry and the Bad Brains, Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I had been digging through some old Spins not too long ago and came across a few of these articles, (which I would have skipped over obliviously in the early '90s), and which are so fucking insane that one can't possibly believe they were printed in a national magazine.

It was kinda the big reason I avoided Spin during the late eighties/early nineties, honestly -- I realized I missed out on some wonderful music writing after the fact, but that whole ignorance they espoused with regard to AIDS did overshadow it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link

posted this somewhere else but--suzanne somers is also a celebrity nutjob:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-11-09/does-suzanne-somers-cause-cancer/

max, Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I realized I missed out on some wonderful music writing after the fact, but that whole ignorance they espoused with regard to AIDS did overshadow it.

Even at the time, I read the AIDS articles because they were just so unbelievably batshit that you couldn't believe they were printed in the same magazine as the rest of the writing.

ô_o (Nicole), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

So wait. The cheerleader is fine now? I am totally going to go find all the "OMG FLU VACCINE KILLZZZZZZZZZZZ" posts from my many vaccine denying FB friends (I know a lot of hippies who grew up and had kids and now think that vaccines are evil and babies should have chiropractors and homeopathy isn't a load a crap) about this woman and rub their noses in it.

she is writing about love (Jenny), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Suzanne Somers, 63.
http://www.foxnews.com/images/232619/0_61_suzanne_somers.jpg

PC Thug (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link

"Dr. Buttar" just fired his PA and tweeted about it.
http://twitter.com/DrButtar

PC Thug (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link

she is very pretty (no homo)

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh wait - it was a joke! Funny, funny guy.
http://twitter.com/kimmyatdrbuttar

PC Thug (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Shouldn't they be dealing with patients or something?

PC Thug (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

they are Ned--the tweets help "heal" people

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

@bikerkristy Hey Mom

in all honesty I stopped reading here

a Barbie-like nub where he provates should be (HI DERE), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Watching Dr. Buttar and Abie practice their martial arts in our gym. Abie has a big tournament this weekend. 5:41 PM Nov 10th from TwitterBerry

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=9477472

nothing new or mindblowing, just jenny bein' jenny

the bait vs. radrake david (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 05:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Blerg. An old friend of mine posted that on Facebook, commenting that it was a "great example of a 'panel of experts' refuting a fact, seen in practice every day, because it adds fire to idea that vaccination can contribute to the onset of autism." Which is kind of confusing but I think he's saying that the "panel of experts" are refuting the "fact" that changes in diet impact autism because to find that changes in diet impact autism is to lend support to the idea that vaccines cause autism. Whatever. It's all so annoying.

she is writing about love (Jenny), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I couldn't make it through much of the piece, but it seems she's essentially saying "I disagree, because my child reacted differently to the diet"?

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes. And because her child is autistic, while this "panel of experts" merely has PhDs and research experience and peer reviewed studies, she is in a better position to tell everyone what really works as a "cure" for autism.

(I'm scare quoting "cure" because many autistic adults or adults on the autism spectrum don't feel they need to be "cured," thankyouverymuch - http://www.autisticadvocacy.org/)

she is writing about love (Jenny), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't really make heads or tails of what your friend meant either. i guess after a few readings it looks to me like "this panel of experts shows that it's not diet so it must be vaccination that causes autism" but i'm not sure it really makes sense.

also, good luck getting an autistic kid to eat a totally different diet. autistic kids tend to be a lot more easily overwhelmed by sensory data and often only tolerate a pretty specific range of foods, fabrics, etc., and based on my anecdotal experience (yes now i am an authority too!) you probably should not handle that the same way you make a picky kid sit at the table until he tries the vegetables.

Maria, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link

(apparently the "wrong" usage of "refute" is pretty much as old as the "right" one, but still always have to bite tongue against cheap pedantic shots of "well, if they've refuted it then they're clearly right and there's no need to make a fuss, QED")

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago) link

ps jenny you are totally right about "curing" autism being a questionable goal but i think that if you make choices during childhood that help with social integration (like mainstreaming in the classroom vs. full time separation into special ed) it can make a kid's life easier in the long run. i think of working on "managing" and "adapting" to autism as still worthwhile, hope it is not paternalistic (more than any other parenting choices anyhow) but i do think it is pragmatic.

Maria, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Maria, I'm far from an expert (neither a doctor nor a scientist nor a social worker nor on the autism spectrum, just involved in the disability rights community as an ally) but what you say makes sense. And I think you can avoid the paternalism if you involve the autistic community or groups like ASAN in the process somehow.

Here's a good blog post about eating and autism: http://thiswayoflife.org/blog/?p=213

she is writing about love (Jenny), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Should have added: the comments are where it's at for that blog post.

she is writing about love (Jenny), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link

I feel so bad for her poor kid.

girl moves (Abbott), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

her = J. McC.'s

girl moves (Abbott), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

All having to be told he can't do X and Y because he is a magical crystal indigo child that mommy cured.

girl moves (Abbott), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Article becomes a bit arsey but I don't really blame him: another anti-vaxxer's attempt to sue to silence:
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/index.html#4fisher

Not the real Village People, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

on a related note:
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Politicians and celebrities shamed for science gaffes

* 12:00 05 January 2010 by Andy Coghlan
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Did you know that when you eat meat, it stays in your gut for 40 years, putrefies and leads to a disease that kills you? "That is a fact," according to the model and charity campaigner Heather Mills, one of several celebrities whose statements in the media last year have been scrutinised and where necessary challenged by the British-based charity Sense About Science in its latest "celebrity watch" review.

Since 2007, the charity has published the annual review after receiving alerts of scientifically questionable or incorrect statements by public figures. "We try hard to explain why it was wrong, and why what might appear to be true isn't," says Ellen Raphael, the charity's director.

Other celebs have been pulled up this year for apparently not realising that natural substances such as hormones are chemicals, and that ovulation is suppressed naturally by pregnancy and prolonged breastfeeding. Actress Suzanne Somers, for example, was quoted as saying that the contraceptive pill must be unsafe "because is it safe to take a chemical every day, and how would it be safe to take something that prevents ovulation?"

Actor Roger Moore, meanwhile, was taken to task for claiming that foie gras causes Alzheimer's disease, and Sarah Palin for dismissing evolution.

Soccer star Robin van Persie, who plays for London club Arsenal and the Netherlands national team, ended up in the review for publicising a treatment in which horse placental fluid was dripped onto his injury. "We'll be on the lookout for more sporting examples this year in the run-up to the World Cup finals in South Africa this summer and the 2012 Olympics," says Raphael.

Any readers disturbed by Mills's meaty assertions can take comfort from Melita Gordon, a gastroenterologist at the University of Liverpool, UK, quoted by Sense about Science: "Meat proteins, like all other proteins, are digested by enzymes and absorbed in the small bowel before they ever reach the colon. Any remaining indigestible matter is mechanically transited through the whole bowel in a matter of days and expelled in your faeces."

kingfish, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

NAME AND SHAME IMO

dome plow (gbx), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I want to be famous so I can make up random shit and have everybody believe me over doctors and scientists and people with professional experience in a given field.

Clouds cause schizophrenia!
Mothers wearing high heeled shoes lead to childhood obesity!
Lima beans are poison!

she is writing about love (Jenny), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

You're right about the last one.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey, it might just get you on Oprah

kingfish, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^last one is true xps

mookieproof, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

No way. I love lima beans.

she is writing about love (Jenny), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link


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