are disco edits the new electroclash?

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its not even like you can claim its the same sort of people doing it!

uh ... sure you can! weatherall, chicken lips, harvey, idjuts, lindstrom + prins thomas all dabbled in big beat.

If anything its more like rare groove or acid jazz

i don't think it's a big jump from acid jazz / rare groove to big beat, do you?

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 03:33 (seventeen years ago) link

haha. maybe not.

but the audience for the latter was certainly more male than the audience for the former, at least in UK.

Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 03:44 (seventeen years ago) link

When did Harvey make big beat? I just remember lots of 16 minute trippy garage tracks.

Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 03:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Also: mid-90s deep house was all made by Mancuso-worshippers but sounds totally different so SOMETHING certainly happened.

Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 03:47 (seventeen years ago) link

somewhere in Greenpoint in 2007:

"Listen to this. 303 + 808 + Karen Finley. They're called S'Express. Is this the shit or what?"

I'll finally be able to make a fortune on eBay.

(re: Chip Nunez et al.. remember the remix they did of Skinny Puppy's "Stairs And Flowers"? Alien Sex Fiend's "Haunted House" (which was basically a disco dance medley of many song off Another Planet)? Remember the second version of Colourbox's "Breakdown", with all the crazy edit action? "Faggot shit" said the fans of Violent Femmes, Camper Van Beethoven, and Carnival Art... ok, not all of them.)

aDOring NUTbians (donut), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 03:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I live in South Africa and there was a scene here in the nineties that consisted of basically playing deep house at like minus 8. It seems to tie in with Cosmic and Beardo. I think Beardo has emormous appeal for all people not just white hipsters. I have a friend who is a young black DJ who was blissing out to Live Dead the other day.

Makrugaik (makrugaik), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link

ah so beardo = white hipster music made 'safe' for black people

W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Hah.

Makrugaik (makrugaik), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

"Listen to this. 303 + 808 + Karen Finley. They're called S'Express. Is this the shit or what?"

don't forget T.Z.'s "I've Got the Hots for You".

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

somewhere in Greenpoint in 2007:
"Listen to this. 303 + 808 + Karen Finley. They're called S'Express. Is this the shit or what?"

OH
MY
GOD

I did something like this on the radio once. We played the Luomo's remix of Smiling Off with Finley's "I'm An Ass Man" drifting in and out. Started playing her just because it was late enough that we could but it sounded really great next to all those moans in the song.

great meaning gross

lf (lfam), Thursday, 15 June 2006 00:48 (seventeen years ago) link

the bootleggers already beat you to it.

i listened to one of those "Larry" bootlegs today. a side was some Paradise Garage classic while the b side was 3 Karen Finley monologues, one being Ass Man.

i assume they are made for mixing, as thye dont stand much on their own.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Thursday, 15 June 2006 01:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I live in South Africa and there was a scene here in the nineties that consisted of basically playing deep house at like minus 8. It seems to tie in with Cosmic and Beardo. I think Beardo has emormous appeal for all people not just white hipsters. I have a friend who is a young black DJ who was blissing out to Live Dead the other day.


---i have been doing that a lot lately. i like pitching down disco and house really slow. i dont have a beard though. (but my hair is kinda long)

mike simonetti (mike simonetti), Thursday, 15 June 2006 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Mike, is this thread about the recent over-the-top enthusiasm about Todd Tejre, Rung Records, et al? And by recent, that means I just recently caught wind of it. I still can't figure out what's so mind-blowing though.

PappaWheelie 2 (PappaWheelie 2), Thursday, 15 June 2006 01:32 (seventeen years ago) link

it's Rong Records (sorry, i hate pedants too) and this is only half the thread. the other half is here BEARDO DISCO (finally fixed for vahid) - not idjuts / lindstrom - harvey, rub'n'tug, map of africa

jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 15 June 2006 01:36 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know much about the edits because i usually don't buy new vinyl, but Ugly Edits 8 (Willie Hutch "Slick") is so fucking good. and it's not even the song in the title.

jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 15 June 2006 01:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Rong. I be typin it (w)rong.

Map of Africa actually covered a song, no? Not just put the original song in some cool edit type software looping the bridge and attaching it to the intro while taking credit as an artist. Or at least that's what's been described to me by some of this "new exciting thing".

Again, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about here. I'm asking if that's what Mike is saying because Mike and I share friends who have been ranting lately. I'm wondering if they've been ranting the same things to him.

PappaWheelie 2 (PappaWheelie 2), Thursday, 15 June 2006 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Map Of Africa "Black Skin Blue Eyed Boys" is a cover of the Equals

jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 15 June 2006 01:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Exactly what I'm saying...

PappaWheelie 2 (PappaWheelie 2), Thursday, 15 June 2006 01:54 (seventeen years ago) link

there was a scene here in the nineties that consisted of basically playing deep house at like minus 8

uh, hello ben cook / dj spun / idjut boys / rong music etc

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 03:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I think MIke's just talking about how everyone's doing disco edits.

Terje, Rong etc, are producing new stuff, and some pretty good new stuff.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 15 June 2006 03:36 (seventeen years ago) link

isn't south african house at minus 8 called Kwaito?

jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 15 June 2006 03:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i've also been pitching stuff way down in mixes lately. weird. and just as the tempos of minimal tracks are starting to increase again...

breakfast pants (disco stu), Thursday, 15 June 2006 04:18 (seventeen years ago) link

isn't south african house at minus 8 called Kwaito?

Sort of. There is definately a difference, but house did inspire the previous pop style to change into Kwaito.

Why do you fight Vahid? Why?

Makrugaik (makrugaik), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

it is his way.

applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

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The 'Delayer' remix is fukin awesome.

trees (treesessplode), Saturday, 24 June 2006 00:05 (seventeen years ago) link

The mix by Harvey of Lindstrom and Christabelle's Music (In My Mind) is great. It sounds like he slowed down the instrumental and then put the vocals back over it at normal pitch. Mtume's You, Me and He 12" is an awesome display of slowness. Slow james so slow they're ambient.

Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 26 June 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

"slow james"

flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh right. Hope it's not a problem.

Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

TOM PETTY - You Got Lucky (Cosmic Instrumental) b/w Don't Come Around Here No More (Synth-drum Dub)

Ace edits to feed all your cosmic needs! An essential summer floor-burner, played endlessly by Beppe Loda back in the '80s! TIP!

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 26 June 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

serious? please to email me ysi link if so.

flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Monday, 26 June 2006 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

play Liquid Liquid's "Scraper" at 33 instead of 45, sounds great.

not relevant to the thread but pitch way up Happy Monday's "Hallelujah" and its even wilder, with nary a trace of helium.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 02:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i should really read threads all the way thru before posting.

jaxon, mr. gill, et al. more about Tom Petty cosmic please, particularly the b-side (who did it?)

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 02:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Every single Alan Parsons song could be (and should be) turned into an amazing re-edit. have they already had a reevaluation?

flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 02:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know much about the edits because i usually don't buy new vinyl, but Ugly Edits 8 (Willie Hutch "Slick") is so fucking good. and it's not even the song in the title.
-- jäxøñ (jaso...), June 14th, 2006 7:38 PM. (jaxon)

ok, i lied. my mp3 was mislabled. it's really Ugly Edits 7 that i love. GQ's "Lies". god, what a fucking amazing song.

flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 04:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Every single Alan Parsons song could be (and should be) turned into an amazing re-edit. have they already had a reevaluation?

It seems so, over on the DJ History board (aka Beardo Central.)

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 07:12 (seventeen years ago) link

they were revaluated a while back, when it came to light that there's at least as much alan parsons in dj shadow as there is david axelrod.

the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 07:14 (seventeen years ago) link

my favorite ugly edit = etta james' "the basement"

the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 07:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i want a disco edit compilation of "young americans" ... particularly "somebody up there likes me" and "right" and the disco version of "john i'm only dancing".

the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 07:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i think my favorite ugly edit is still #1.

Bea Arthur - Lost COmic GEnius ? (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link

tho the a-side to #2 is not without its charms.

Bea Arthur - Lost COmic GEnius ? (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i want a disco edit compilation of "young americans" ... particularly "somebody up there likes me" and "right" and the disco version of "john i'm only dancing".

I have been thinking about something like this for a while, too. "right" would be especially good...

trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

it's really Ugly Edits 7 that i love. GQ's "Lies". god, what a fucking amazing song.

-- flëétwøöd måçk (jaso...) (webmail), Tuesday 1:53 AM. (jaxon) (later) (link)

this afternoon i listened to a unnamed DJ's shockingly bad "Think Twice" edit, it simply stretched the best breaks in the song by looping them ten or twelve times and then returned to those passages on occasion to bloat the length from 6 mins to 12+ mins. appalling.

to understand how brilliant TP's "Lies" edit is, track down the original GQ track. Parrish removes all the chaff and distills the best moments of the song into something entirely new.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Saturday, 1 July 2006 00:40 (seventeen years ago) link

my favorite ugly edit = etta james' "the basement"

mine too & probably my favourite track from last year.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 1 July 2006 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
interesting thing on how make edits the old fashioned way:

http://www.electrofunkroots.co.uk/credit_to_the_edit/how_to_edit.html

mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

It's really no fun.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 29 September 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

like surgery in the middle ages

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

the only tape editing I ever did was in the oberlin TIMARA studios, on an Otari MX-5050. I composed a really stupid piece of musique concrete for my Introduction to Electronic Music class.

Anyway, I know I keep mentioning this, but Big Daddy magazine a few years ago published an amazing 2 part article on the history of cut-n-paste, covering everything from Danny Krivit's old bootleg disco edits, to Latin Rascals/Omar Santana type stuff to Coldcut or whatever. Really good stuff.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

TS: Chep Nunez vs. Omar Snatana vs. The Whiz Kids vs. The Balerunners/Felix Sama

PappaWheelie burried Paul. The clues are there man! (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

er, bladerunners even

PappaWheelie burried Paul. The clues are there man! (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Christian Balerunner?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link


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