this is the thread where the ILM massive teach mark s a *LESSON*

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Interstellar Space by John Coltrane and Rashied Ali since you seem to have dismissed St John (which is pretty understandable if you've ever read anyone write about him or if you've ever been stuck in a room with someone talking about how spiritual A Love Supreme is).

― hamish (hamish), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:40 (twenty years ago) link

well, if spirituality = dull, i guess. i agree. that record is annoying anyway. add full muso desription of what a giant step giant steps is, and why ad infinatum.

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:51 (twenty years ago) link

that record is annoying anyway.

Which one? Interstellar Space or A Love Supreme?

― hamish (hamish), Monday, 19 May 2003 09:31 (twenty years ago) link

i already like interstellar space hamish, but i will relisten and write about it i promise

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 19 May 2003 09:40 (twenty years ago) link

albert ayler does not make spirituality dull tho'.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 19 May 2003 09:42 (twenty years ago) link

where you stand on Sandinista! is thee acid test. What's the sinkah-view?

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 19 May 2003 09:50 (twenty years ago) link

agree julio. its the conception of spirituality that certain a love supreme apologists feel obliged to weary you with that's dull.

ALS hamish.

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 19 May 2003 12:09 (twenty years ago) link

love supreme apologists? spirituality or no, what is there to apologize for about one of the most unique and intense bands in jazz (or anything else) throwing down?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 May 2003 18:35 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.piratehaven.org/~beej/pirates/images/pyle/plank.jpg

ILM teaching mark s a lesson.

― Rockist Scientist, Monday, 19 May 2003 19:17 (twenty years ago) link

You may never get to it but the Luda album is in fact named "Back For The First Time".

"Southern Hospitality" is just the great single from it.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 1 June 2003 01:04 (twenty years ago) link

mark please write ten paragraphs about limp bizkit f method man - 'n2gether now' !!

― trife (simon_tr), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 23:27 (twenty years ago) link

At the FAP on Sunday I added Amnesiac to mark's list.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:34 (twenty years ago) link

Mark, did you ever listen to the Rough Guide tape I sent you (A Rough Guide to Music the Rough Guide Wouldn't Touch with a Ten-Foot Pole)? Not that I'd expect it to change you, but I want to know who you think rocks harder, Celine or LeAnn.

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 9 June 2003 22:36 (twenty years ago) link

i only ever listen to things i think i'm going to write about (this isn't true)

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 9 June 2003 22:51 (twenty years ago) link

do da real one next

― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 9 June 2003 22:52 (twenty years ago) link

trife has it on vinyl

― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 9 June 2003 22:53 (twenty years ago) link

i told mark i would make a tape for him next after minnas dirty south tape!! if he cant find da real one and limp bizkit by then i will put them both on!!

― trife (simon_tr), Monday, 9 June 2003 23:22 (twenty years ago) link

teaching mark s a *LESSON* response one: ZAPPA

teaching mark s a *LESSON* response two: DE LA SOUL

teaching mark s a *LESSON* response three: FUNKADELIC

(i'm gonna try and do some nice short ones next)

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 15 June 2003 14:05 (twenty years ago) link

teaching mark s a *LESSON* response four: LOUIS PRIMA

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 22 June 2003 14:55 (twenty years ago) link

five months pass...

(this is not defunct just helladelayed btw as i have an actual real project w.a deadline)

response five = tyrannosaurus rex/unicorn but don't hold yr breath (sorry lady lurex)

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 11:51 (twenty years ago) link

Fun fact re 'my' submission - it's not produced by Sandy Pearlman

― dave q, Wednesday, 26 November 2003 16:32 (twenty years ago) link

So are you grooving on the new Tull XMAS album, Dave?

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.stalk.net/paradigm/images/06.jpg

― NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

NRBQ
Ted Hawkins
The Soul Rebels
All three will make you think about music...differently

― Speedy Gonzalas (Speedy Gonzalas), Thursday, 27 November 2003 10:48 (twenty years ago) link

nine months pass...

having good reasons doesn't stop me feeling bad abt how this got sidelined :(

i still hope to return and deliver smore one day

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 25 September 2004 09:56 (nineteen years ago) link

If I can get my tape deck working properly, I will try to do you a tape of those I cite above. And maybe some other people's, if I have room and the tunes. It'll be an enjoyable tape even if you don't write about it.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 25 September 2004 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Of the tracks nominated I can only find Shaky Mo's Johnny Otis and Ethan's Limp Bizkit/Method Man choices. And I'll add something by the Rebirth Brass Band, suggested by Jordan, too.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 25 September 2004 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link

i have limp bizkit/method man

also i have access to slsk these days!! i am currently d/l-ing yard on yard of gryphon!

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 25 September 2004 11:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Heavens, man, if you have slsk and need music we shall provide.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link

listen to duane's album.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Helloween.

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 25 September 2004 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...

i. dear god it is nearly two years since i started this project
ii. i have still not tracked down my vinyl copy of metal machine music = am still not free of the tug of ilm
iii. lady di if you are reading i have not forgotten
iv. i have been kinda busy w.this and that, and this looks likely to continue BUT i really do plan to hack a few more of these, but i nthe meantime
v. HAPPY NEW YEAR PALS and FOES alike!!

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 1 January 2005 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link

i. hi mark!!
ii. happy 2005 to you too!
iii. update yr blog too if you get the time please!

― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 1 January 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link

update on its way (er prob not today tho)!

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 1 January 2005 15:12 (nineteen years ago) link

i. happy new year mark.
ii. I read yr book and enjoyed it immensely.
iii. 'connecting and connecting...'

― cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 1 January 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link

mark, while we are giving you things to do, I'd like to recommend Ned Sublette's recent Cuba & Its Music (which I assume you know about, and may even have read for all I know).

― RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link

you were not very nice to somebody (composer) in your rise and spral (of horrible noise, not yr behind the music rise and sprawl). you know who i mean. listen again. then come to the Real Dirty South (the one where we can't afford ipods and Lil Jon CDs). and make and sell and buy and even listen to loose joints (in the mixtape sense). on the street. keeping your bias normal, your case low, your new year off-white, and represent.

― don, Saturday, 1 January 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link

listen to aussie pop in 80s - wa wa nee "sugar free"

― paul grey, Saturday, 1 January 2005 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link

from failing memory, isn't john oswald is the only person i'm unremittingly nasty to in rise and sprawl (unless you count j!m de r0gat!s as a composer, or mark lamarr)?

(but it's a very long piece so i probbly said a million things i no longer think especially)

i don't own and can't afford an ipod :(

rockist i own records by ned s. but i never read him: but one of the records i really really like - ever-wideining circles, the one he did w.the persuasions - so i will give that book a go some time

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 1 January 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I was going to link to my thread about the book, but I think that must be one of the lost threads. Anyway, it's very good, and much of it should be of interest to anyone interested in the musical interactions between Africa, the New World, and Europe.

― RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Kind of like a less rockcriticerly, more expansive, Stomp and Swerve, but focusing on a different musical center.

― RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes of course I meant Oswald. It's the name isnt it. Put yr patriotism aside just that much ok? (Larue do you like Irakere? I like the LP ca. '78, from before several of their MVP jumped ship, pretty much literally. Does he talk about them, and/or Charlie Haden's Liberation Music Orchestra?)

― don, Saturday, 1 January 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link

The Sublette book only goes up to the 50s. He has a second volume planned. I'm actually not that big a fan of Cuban music per se. I prefer Puerto Rican/NuYorican/Colombian stylings, but still, the basic foundation for salsa comes via Cuba, so I am interested. I haven't liked anything I've heard by Irakere.

― RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link

i happy end of 2004
ii miss scanning a ILX thread to get mark's take on the question
iii should mail you a disc of music

― nick.K (nick.K), Saturday, 1 January 2005 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link

haha don i just realised that wz you!!

but i am still trying to codecrack the patriotism gag

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 2 January 2005 02:28 (nineteen years ago) link

i did in fact grow up near a town named for the fact that a long-ago saxon king called oswald hid in a a tree once (or wz killed by a tree or something)

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 2 January 2005 02:29 (nineteen years ago) link

but i'm saving the details of that for my sleater-kinner lesson

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 2 January 2005 02:30 (nineteen years ago) link

"Lee Harvey" was what I had in mind (relates to yr. patriotism cause Blair is Bush's poodle and your Prime Minister, nyah nyah, nah nah nah)(Bush is *my whut whut) Intriguing bout the tree (seriously), but I'll wait for the sleater-kinner(?) lesson. In the meantime, more musical recs: RIO BAILE FUNK:FAVELA BOOTY BEATS and Daara J's BOOMERAN and reggaeton too, cos you need a sunny vacation I would imagine (more UK stereotyping but still!)

― don, Sunday, 2 January 2005 04:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Sleater-Kinner fuckin suck dog balls

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 2 January 2005 05:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Really? Too bad. Sleater-Kinney's pretty good, though.

― don, Sunday, 2 January 2005 05:25 (nineteen years ago) link

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