I HATE APPLE

MAYBE IT WORKS NOW?!?! WE WILL SEE

xpost 6) There was a time in Mac days when that process was intuitive and the Finder was my primary tool for accomplishing those steps, instead of going and BLOODY WHINGING to unix sysadmins.

7) The Jay Beale slides from DEFCON deal with only one pane of System Preferences, but excellently illustrate the duplicitous wackness, shit defaults and general-purpose user-handicapping that goes on all over OS X.

8) SHUT THE FUCK UP AND PAY ATTENTION to what I'm saying about my valid problems with this OS and quit acting like you get a paycheck from Jesus Jobs for standing up for his false adverts and lazy, bad MSFT-style design decisions.

MAYBE IT WORKS NOW?!?! WE WILL SEE

xpost 6) There was a time in Mac days when that process was intuitive and the Finder was my primary tool for accomplishing those steps, instead of going and BLOODY WHINGING to unix sysadmins.

7) The Jay Beale slides from DEFCON deal with only one pane of System Preferences, but excellently illustrate the duplicitous wackness, shit defaults and general-purpose user-handicapping that goes on all over OS X.

8) SHUT THE FUCK UP AND PAY ATTENTION to what I'm saying about my valid problems with this OS and quit acting like you get a paycheck from Jesus Jobs for standing up for his false adverts and lazy, bad MSFT-style design decisions.

DO NOT tell me to shut the fuck up and pay attention. I've been following this thread since day one - I was the one with the busted Shuffle, remember? The one that they ultimately replaced???

Believe it or not, I was TRYING to help you, but you're obviously too wrapped up in the bullshit conspiracy theory that Apple has gone out of its way to inconvenience YOU AND YOU PERSONALLY.

Nope. I said "whinging", not "whining".

http://infosecuritymag.techtarget.com/2003/jan/curmudgeon.shtml

(also I don't know if "QUIT BLOODY WHINGING" goes down a treat with other people when you are helping them but it seems kind of obvious to me that it's a surefire way to get Tom to type a million variations of "EAT MY ENTIRE SMELLY ASS WITH CHOPSTICKS" in humorous caps)

What can I say? I'm more than a little burnt out after 6 years of DAW-related Apple support, and I jumped at the chance to say something that my old job essentially forbade me to do.

My point is that while I can totally sympathize with Tombot's hardware issues, it strikes me as utterly petty & churlish to bitch about Dashboard and iLife when it's easy enough to get rid of both of 'em. They strike me as the absolute least of Tombot's worries, or they oughta be.

It's W-H-I-N-I-N-G.

However, "whinging" is spelled w-h-i-N-G-i-n-g, as in "Wow, Mr. Que sure is doing an awful lot of whinging about the correct spelling of the word "whining".

Granted, that's more of a worst-case scenario, like "Well, if you're THAT desperate..."
Dashboard is simple enough to delete - just drag the icon out of your dock, and trash any existing widgets on your Mac HD - without reformatting anything. I'm guessing one could simply delete the iApps (along with their preferences), but I'd be worried about not getting rid of them completely.

The issue is that Apple gives us flare (Dashboard mostly, I suppose there are people who use iLife) rather than fixing things that screw up.

I know plenty of people who use iLife. Personally, I would have jumped for joy had something like Garageband existed a decade ago (and by that, I mean a COMPLETELY self-contained, entry-level MIDI & audio sequencer that needs only the simplest of external peripherals to work).

And I agree with you about Dashboard - I think it's a useless distraction. Trust me, you don't have to tell me about "flare". I was an OS 9 holdout until last year!!! My first reaction to OS X was "that's too... pretty". But the interface grew on me over time, and what ultimately won me over was its multi-tasking abililties, and this is what gets me when people rant about OS X: Does anyone really miss not being able to have more than two apps open at the same time, or having to remember which user set of extensions was active? I certainly don't.

(btw. I don't get Mr Que's whinge/whine thing. They are different words. Dogs don't whinge, for example. Am I missing some joke?)

Wha'? I (have to) use OS 9 at work and usually have about five apps open at once. Not that I'm sticking up for OS 9. It's rubbish.

My experiences with OS 9 were primarily music-related, and I found that if I was running Logic Audio and Pro Tools LE, then even booting a relatively "small" app like Roxio Toast was just asking for a freezeup. Pretty much everyone I knew who made music with OS 9 had similar problems.

As far as the whole whinging vs. whining thing goes, they are clearly different words to me, too. Don't know what Mr. Que was driving at there.

Hell, I even use Pages when I have a Word file to convert. Otherwise, it's BBEdit for writing or InDesign when I need to process words.

Oops.

http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosx1046comboforppc.html

A "rollback" option would be sweet, wouldn't it?

alba, tiger has "spotlight" which is still a little too slow but is cool cos it indexes like everything on your hard drive including mail, address book, the contents of word docs, etc - i like it a lot

God damn it, you're right.

can "time machine" do that??

I'm guilty of iPhoto use, mostly to batch unload photos before uploading to flickr. iTunes as well, although the rest of the iLife stuff I barely touch. I have no idea what people have against Dashboard though, I've only ever had one widget that ate memory and even know a few people who use konfabulator on their pcs for a similar deal...

Conflating Spotlight and Quicksilver is kind of dumb when you're talking about a full-filesystem search versus whatever you have Quicksilver set to index. QS works great if I know what I'm running, Spotlight is nice if I'm just searching for a file.

Faulty RAM stick finally replaced, I have eschewed Mail, Dashboard, and a host of other worthless garbage from my Applications folder and used Spotlight (ahoy!) to find and destroy their families. Now to download this Cog business, and Transmission, and Fugu all over again, and get to business.

(When ILX goes away, won't you miss me doing annoying shit like this the most?)

I put a shortcut to my Applications folder in my dock, then rightclick on it to get access to them all. But yeah, Spotlight's OK.

Anyway, I've gone back to 10.4.0 and all is dandy. Snappy, even. I've got Azureus running in the background and I'd not even noticed. I'll see how it goes and if some app needs a later version and I'm feeling reckless I'll try out the 10.4.6 combo update.

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