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yeah Mr. Que's coffee (made with WF Pleasant Morning Buzz ground-at-the-store beans) is my favorite coffee.

quincie, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link

whatever harbl

Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i got you liking coffee now--and this is the thanks i get

Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

and yes it goes back into the freezer every time

quincie, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

we buy one (usually pre ground) container a week, use it up in a week. keep it in the freezer.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

i liked coffee before. you can't take the credit anyway.

harbl, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Freezing Coffee - Not as Good as an Iced Mocha
Some people store their coffee in the freezer thinking it is going to keep the coffee fresh. Here are a couple of reasons why storing coffee in your freezer is a bad idea:

* Coffee is porous. This is a good thing for fans of flavored coffee as the beans absorb the coffee flavoring syrups and oils that are used to make flavored coffee. However, if given the chance, coffee can also absorb other things like the flavor of seafood or the moisture that your freezer produces. This moisture will in turn deteriorate the coffee and even make it taste like, well... like a freezer.
* When coffee is roasted, the beans release their oils and essences to give the coffee its distinct flavor. You'll notice these oils are more prominent on dark-roasted coffee and espresso. When you break down these oils by freezing, you are removing the flavor.

Think about it...if coffee tasted better and fresher from the freezer, then you would buy it in the frozen food section, your local coffee shop might look more like an ice cream parlor, and our power bills would be through the roof trying to maintain a meat-locker the size of a warehouse.

harbl, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i think i hate it now

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Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link

you're welcome

Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link

let's rely on "Dawn" from Yahoo Answers instead of me, King of Coffee

Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link

no

harbl, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link

that's not from yahoo answers you butt

harbl, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i've brought you into the promised land, and this is the thanks i get

Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link

About

We’re Mark and Janice. He loves his flavoured coffee while I have a passion for baking cupcakes. Together we hope to share our passions and well if you like to get something from us, we’ll be delighted to serve you

Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link

they sound like swingers

Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link

When you freeze the coffee you use every day, the fluctuating temperatures create moisture in the packet, which can leave your morning cup tasting like cardboard. "The cell structure changes, which causes a loss of the oils that give coffee its aroma and flavor," says McMartin.

harbl, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Freezing or Refrigerating Coffee Beans - It is generally not recommended to store coffee beans in the freezer or refrigerator. The enemies of coffee are extreme temperatures (hot or cold), air, light, moisture, and strong odors. The freezer is acceptable only for a one-time shot. What this means, is that once you take it out of the freezer, it should never go back in. Condensation can form and adversely affect taste, as the frozen moisture on your coffee will melt and be absorbed into the bean, which deplete the flavorful oils.

harbl, Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, i've never had a problem with it tasting stale and if i did i would alter my methods. i can give you names and addresses of people who have tasted my delicious coffee and you can interrogate them.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link

science doesn't lie

harbl, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

don't freeze the bean

had died in a balloon accident several years in a ballooning accident (dyao), Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link

harbl is standing on very strong ground (haha, get it)

had died in a balloon accident several years in a ballooning accident (dyao), Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:06 (fourteen years ago) link

i keep my fresh oaxacan coffee beans out and grind them fresh every morning. having some coffee right now in fact. mm-mmm!

http://www.gerka.ru/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/dale-cooper-twin-peaks-coffee-3004-1.jpg

access flap (omar little), Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Freezing & Thawing: You don't thaw it out every time, you just scoop a little bit from the bag in the freezer and put it straight back in. It only freezes once.

Porosity: Good point, if you have a stinky freezer. Also a good reason to put the bag of coffee in a plastic bin, bag, however you normally store long-term frozen goods.

Oils: I don't know about this. Does freezing "break down" the "oils"? I'm asking, I don't know. But that clip doesn't offer any evidence that it does.

The last point, about storing ALL coffee in the freezer, is just...nonsensical. Coffee in a store or a warehouse has turnover -- if it didn't, and it sat on the shelf and got stale, you'd buy it somewhere else. But once you get it home, you're stuck with it. THAT'S the point at which freezing is useful.

I would feel confident if I dated her because I am older than (Laurel), Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe we should change the title of this thread, harbl, to "let's freak out over coffee"

Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Seriously who are these people who thaw it out and re-freeze it every day? Their household must be chaos, what with siphoning all the gas out of their cars every night and pouring it back in when they want to drive to work in the morning.

I would feel confident if I dated her because I am older than (Laurel), Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link

my coffee's so strong i fill up my car with it

access flap (omar little), Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

good coffee oils are crucial to a good cuppa

had died in a balloon accident several years in a ballooning accident (dyao), Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I pity you paper drip dudes

had died in a balloon accident several years in a ballooning accident (dyao), Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link

look, these are trusted coffee experts saying these things. it doesn't take that long for a tiny amount of condensation to form, and the oils in coffee are water soluble iirc. freezing a pound of coffee you're going to keep moving in and out of the freezer (even for a few seconds) is dumb. you guys are dumb.

harbl, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link

think about allthose ice crystals you get in your gallon tub of breyers ice cream

had died in a balloon accident several years in a ballooning accident (dyao), Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess i'm dumb

Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, well, we froze it because we had to drive an hour or more to buy anything besides what comes canned in the supermarket. It's a compromise. Also I still don't really believe them about the DASTARDLY CONDENSATION OH NOES.

I would feel confident if I dated her because I am older than (Laurel), Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

come to my house and drink my coffee. we'll see who is dumb

Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

THAT'S WHATS HAPPENING TO YOUR COFFEE

had died in a balloon accident several years in a ballooning accident (dyao), Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

let's freak out over coffee

Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

condensation + water soluble oils = bad. i believe it because it makes sense.

harbl, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm not the one freaking out. i've only used my caps lock key for one word.

harbl, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

that is DON'T

harbl, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

fuck grinding at a store, grind at home u loosers

am0n, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link

let's call each other names over coffee and betray those who have shown us the way, starting back in May, back when we thought we didn't like coffee.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh que

harbl, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.pets-doc.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/hug_it_out.jpg

Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

it's true i don't know how to make it anymore, it always tastes like acid it's disgusting please help

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Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link

it was because i started buying coffee at the grocery store to save a couple dollars. i don't know what you're trying to say though? it has nothing to do with putting coffee in the freezer. which i have already conclusively proven is dumb.

harbl, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link

oils in coffee are water soluble iirc

You did not rc.

quincie, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link

WHAT

harbl, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Bring some science, quincie.

I would feel confident if I dated her because I am older than (Laurel), Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

OH I'LL BRING IT ALRIGHT

quincie, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

ok it's not a real oil but it's a water soluble thing

harbl, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link


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