I can share Brett Michaels' own tape with you.
― lihaperäpukamat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 October 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Why is Creed "good" and "underrated"?
1. They write "first-rate schlock-rock."2. "In his lyrics, Stapp is a well-meaning, Bible-fluent doofus, easy to chuckle at"3. Stapp's stage presence is "obnoxiously anachronistic"4. "Higher" is "a triumphant slab of ersatz inspirationalism"5. "Tremonti was a brutally effective guitarist"
It's like he couldn't even take his own argument seriously. His defense is pretty backhanded.
― wmlynch, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
the bar is pretty low for good music writing tbh
― access flap (omar little), Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Why is Creed good? Cuz they write shit songs with bad lyrics and their frontman is irritating. THAT'S WHY!
― wmlynch, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Wait, it's that they're ersatz good.
the slate thing is just a space-filler, but its hardly terrible. or terribly written anyway. dunno if it was worth the effort...
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
what IS worth the effort these days? where's the good writing thread? i haven't read anything good in a dog's age. somebody must have written something good this year about music.
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
you don't need space-filler on the internet. it's not like a newspaper or magazine where you have to fill space; you choose how much of the theoretically infinite space of the internet you want to use.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link
but even internet newsmags have, um, theoretical space limits and such, no? they have sections. they need to fill a section. they need product, basically. same as a regular magazine.
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link
that's probably because old people run it
― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
it's the internet just throw up whatever
in case anyone was wondering why they ran that article, its because it gets forwarded around the internet and posted on message boards like this, and then people go to the site and some of them click on the ads, and then slate gets money, and pays its writers
― Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Thanks for explaining the internet Max, you are a hero.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
it's the internet just throw up, whatever (xxp)
― Fetchboy, Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
np jon seemed like there was some confusion on this thread vis-a-vis the article, and why slate would publish something that wasnt particularly insightful but was contrarian enough that people seem to want to tell everyone about it
― Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
it's about as contrarian as a cannned ham.
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
cannnnnned ham
"utterly incoherent to me and I'm not sure that it's not a joke, but it seems sincere enough I guess."
Ha! sums up my feelings re: Creed and maybe Rammstein and Rush. Maybe ICP and Burial, too.What groups are like that for you guys?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
To compare Creed and ICP to Rush is sacrilege.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Bill Magill OTM. Faygo & Seminars>>>>>>>>Ayn Rand.
― Fetchboy, Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link
which awful alt-weekly cover story essay on jay-z is worse??
http://www.citypaper.com/music/story.asp?id=19159http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/old-bull/Content?oid=2473786
― i got nothin (deej), Friday, 23 October 2009 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link
jk the stranger one is ugh but the cp one is http://www.soulstrut.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lvl.gif
― i got nothin (deej), Friday, 23 October 2009 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link
He is Gen-Why's Crack Cobain, in their search for a new musical Nirvana.
man i fuckin hate wordplay
― call all destroyer, Friday, 23 October 2009 03:26 (fourteen years ago) link
What about scrapple?
― _Rudipherous_, Friday, 23 October 2009 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link
city paper joint is the worst piece of rap writing i've read this year
― everybody loves am0n (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 October 2009 03:34 (fourteen years ago) link
RIP al shipley circa 2008 getting space to rightfully shit on 'american gangster'
― everybody loves am0n (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 October 2009 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link
He may be getting old, but this album is a warning flare to the world that he could do this shit forever.
like, i don't even know where to start
― everybody loves am0n (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 October 2009 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link
haha i still get space i just wouldn't use it to shit on nu-jay more than once
― some dude, Friday, 23 October 2009 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link
"Jay may be the Magna Carter (though they aren't related, both men share similar surnames) but Weezy smells succession"
similar?
― suggest friend (hmmmm), Friday, 23 October 2009 08:15 (fourteen years ago) link
He is "literally" carrying hip hop on his back.
― Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 23 October 2009 08:33 (fourteen years ago) link
"And we are in the age of Obamica now; if a black man can become president of the United States, then a wicked jump shot or slinging crack rocks—as the greatest rapper of all time, the late Christopher Wallace once suggested—is not the only way out of the hood. The looming shadow of the big baller/shot caller has not disappeared completely, but it's getting smaller."
This paragraph is literally burning my eyeballs. My head is literally going to explode. Figuratively speaking, this is a terribly written piece.
― dabug, Friday, 23 October 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link
btw that goof jonah weiner who wrote that article on Creed has a 'conceptual' rap group:http://www.myspace.com/spiderfangz
― i got nothin (deej), Saturday, 24 October 2009 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link
haha the way nick sylvester constantly posted about 'spiderfang' on his blog i thought it was just some bullshit he made up himself
― wein blockas (some dude), Saturday, 24 October 2009 03:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Ghostface Killer (Tony Starks)
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 24 October 2009 04:00 (fourteen years ago) link
ohhh, he means Tony Starks
― i got nothin (deej), Saturday, 24 October 2009 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link
honestly the predictable contrarianism of that creed article is so obnoxious to me for some reason ... like yes, we get it, all music isnt that bad when its not on the radio all the time
i just hate the idea that dude was like, "oooh creed catalogue torrent ... maybe ill make a hundred bucks in slate cash off a half assed review of this that SHOCKS MUSIC FAN SENSIBILITIES"
― i got nothin (deej), Saturday, 24 October 2009 04:21 (fourteen years ago) link
So hold on, is Weiner now Slate's official pop critic?
http://www.slate.com/?id=3944&qp=43219
Jeez, that's f'n depressing...
― uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Thursday, 5 November 2009 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
they were going to hire me and give me free reign to write about Wilco every week, but the deal fell through at the last minute.
― kshighway1, Thursday, 5 November 2009 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link
they went for second best.
― kshighway1, Thursday, 5 November 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
If I ever got a chance to interview Jay, I
so sad that this sentence occurs in a cover story on the guy
― banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link
isn't a covery story
― the goondock saints (some dude), Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link
er cover story
no it's not very cover-y at all
haha xp
― banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link
ya i assumed it was from deej's "which awful alt-weekly cover story essay on jay-z is worse??" but i guess you'd know better
― banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link
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― jØrdån (omar little), Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Impressive corpus.
― kshighway1, Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link
You missed this one:
Unbearable WhitenessThat queasy feeling you get when watching a Wes Anderson movie.
― o. nate, Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Slate's new challops column.
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― jØrdån (omar little), Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link
My new Slate column: "Received Contrarianism"
― uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link