Classic or Dud: U2

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I can see your point, Ned. I don't mean to be a pest. I just need to stand up for the guys who recorded "Bad." Sure they've gotten kind of shitty, but up through Achtung Baby their hit to miss is hard to brush off.

bono vox, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Alex in NYC feels embarassment and regret for me.

The first few records are brilliant. And they always craft one terrific tune per CD.

But Bono is such an annoyance. I wanna break his glasses bad.
Plus, The Edge still calls himself The Edge. He's what, pushing 50?

Their current claim to quality is that they're not Sting.

ian g, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the new one BIG TIME. What's it called again? And I like the football one too.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

The iPod commercial makes me want to burn them at the stake.

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link

It's funny, I kinda like Bono despite U2. I never fell for their first few records. The last one is ok though. And what's up with all the Acthung Baby love? Despite a couple of songs, it's pretty bland.

danh (danh), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

"ONE, TWO, THREE, FOURTEEN!"

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

occasional good songs whose qualities i hate to admit, they're a dud classic (bad bands i'm glad exist are classic duds).

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I just wish they'd grow old with a little more grace. I mean, have you seen Bono lately? The shades and straw cowboy hat combo HAS GOT TO GO!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link

YES FOR ONCE I'M IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT WITH YOU.

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never seen so many "Dud" responses in a "Classic or Dud?" thread.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Alex, Leon, he doesn't mean to bug you. Hey, why are you looking at me like that?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the new U2 song despite the revelation that Bono can't count.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i need to hear it. I like "discoteque" more than anything they've done since (except maybe the "discoteque"-rewrite "elevation") so if this is as bonkers as everybody says it is i might actually like it.

has u2 ever had any grace or dignity? their entire career seems riddled with fashion don'ts. they were cuter in their youth, but they were still guilty of numerous crimes against decency (ok starting with war, I really don't know the first two albums well at all).

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link

has u2 ever had any grace or dignity?

Well, i suppose it's all relative. Circa The Unforgettable Fire it certainly seemed like they were both graceful and dignified, but I'm sure it struck some that they were overreaching and pious at the time. Seems to me, though, that they stumbled after Achtung, Baby and still haven't re-found their footing.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link

"elvis ate america"

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry "elvis presley and america"

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:25 (nineteen years ago) link

i think i've said this before but to sumarize - indifferent early on, loved War, disliked Unforgettable Fire, hated Joshua Tree, loathed Rattle & Hum, Achtung Baby was a 'wow, there is good stuff her, loved Zooroopa (unlike many) and hated Pop. gave up again after that.

H (Heruy), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link

And what's up with all the Acthung Baby love? Despite a couple of songs, it's pretty bland.
-- danh (dan_haa...), October 20th, 2004.

Blasfemy!

Elvis is Dead, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I kinda dig the new one, reminds me of the strokes.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 23:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahah. (Sorry, I just find that funny for some reason...)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 23:39 (nineteen years ago) link

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But without them, we wouldn't have the Negativland thing.

Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

classic of course

ranking 'em, personal choices:

Zooropa
Achtung Baby
Pop
The Joshua Tree
War
ATYCLB
Boy
The Unforgettable Fire
Rattle and Hum
October

Passengers would rank up high, but that ain't all U2. Never understood the dislike of their '90s work. Bono tones it down, better musically, better lyrics. Seems to be a good formula.

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 23:56 (nineteen years ago) link

it was kinda meant to be funny! but it's true too!

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 21 October 2004 00:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Although I think that Bono Vox can be a twit most of the time, I love the bands 80s output with a passion.
And I am not ashamed.
It is not heresy, and I will not recant.
U2 == Good
Bono == "Bad"

I think of Bono as an Irish David Lee Roth doing a bad impersonation of Springsteen. Sure, he says something quotably dumb and ridiculous every time he's interviewed...but thats why we* like like him.
* = The "we" in question is me and my buds. "Bad Bono Quotes" is our favorite impromptu bar game.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 21 October 2004 00:22 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Why does "The Edge" still wear a knit cap? Has that officially become "his thing"?

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 02:14 (eighteen years ago) link

U2 is classic.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Why does "The Edge" still wear a knit cap? Has that officially become "his thing"?
Covers his bald spot.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 03:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Dud.

Matt McEver (mattmc387), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 03:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic, although there is always at least one dud track per album, often a ham-fisted attempt at soul or gospel whose title ends in a preposition, e.g. "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" or "Stuck in a Moment You Can't Get Out Of."

Zooropa remains their best album, and a largely unappreciated precursor to the likes of Kid A (Wake me up when Thom Yorke writes a song as good as "Lemon"), but I quite like their last two retro-80s efforts as well.

John Hunter, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 04:11 (eighteen years ago) link


that song on the new ipod commercial (original of the species?)is fucking GOD AWFUL.

that said, I put on "Pop" for the first time in a long, long while at work today and I have to say I really enjoyed it. I liked U2 a lot more in high school, ive kinda grown out of it, but both Auchtung Baby and Pop are classics in my mind, fuck all the haters.

JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 05:36 (eighteen years ago) link

"Zooropa remains their best album, and a largely unappreciated precursor to the likes of Kid A"

and achtung is a precursor to OK Computer. hmm, come to think of it Zoo Station and Airbag are similar in a lot of ways. never thought of that till now.

not that I love u2 by any means, I just love that album. it's that "ham-fisted attempt at soul or gospel whose title ends in a preposition" that's probably what gets me more than anything. and the pompousness that goes with it.

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

U2 is the only band I've ever publicly renounced (in the late 80's). I got flak for that from most of my friends and haven't done anything like that since.

"You can't forget or cancel something you genuinely liked at some point", I was told. But for U2, I could. DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUD

blunt (blunt), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I still have my old vinyl copy of Boy I bought when it was first released in the states and every so often that opening to "I Will Follow" sounds just as thrilling as it did then. I saw them on the tour for October and at the time I thought they were one of the greatest bands in the world.

20+ years later, I'd change that to "they *could* be one of the greatest bands ever, but post-Zooropa (which is the only other U2 album I listen to all the way through) they seem to be content just doing the same thing and load up the albums with one song for the old fans, one oddball song, and another overblown ballad which is their equivalent to an Aerosmith soundtrack theme.

Anyway, both classic AND dud simultaneously.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

classic probably -particularly in the old stuff and when they went super disco on that one album. i also think bono is just kinda cool interesting perfect rocker type. and remember when he was young and had those thick juicy thighs? i can still see him prancing around with that flag at red rocks. but zero desire to listen to them.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

both classic AND dud simultaneously

This is probably the closest to the truth of all of the responses to this question.

John Hunter, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Clud.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
U2 in the 80s: classic
U2 in the 90s and 00s: dud

I'll always love "I Will Follow."

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 05:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm another one where U2 were my favourite band at high school, so I'm betraying my 15 year-old self if I say Dud.

Ah well, fuck you 15 yr old Tom, you're too skinny anyway. DUD.

winter testing (winter testing), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 09:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I bought the "Fire" double single, very good.

I heard "Gloria" subsequently, and went off them.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 09:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not a big fan either. Like many others, I loved War way back when, and I still like a few tracks on that album (Drowning Man has always been my favourite), but I rarely actively queue them up when listing to tunes.

As for Bono's political activism, personally I find him annoying, but I'm easily able to put that annoyance aside because his efforts certainly have helped many people around the world, and my personal opinions are pretty tiny and selfish compared to that. I can't stand Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt either, but they're still doing great things, even if it's partially to improve their image (which I'm not claiming, but is certainly possible). We do have to remember that despite the fact that these folks have lived pampered lives, they've also had the opportunity to see horrible things that most of us haven't, and that's bound to affect anyone who still has the smallest degree of humanity.

shorty (shorty), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 11:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Hated them when I first saw in a Presbyterian hall in Sutton - as 'the Hype' - in 1978, covering Dancing in the Moonlight and Peaches; hated them when i saw them in Sheriff St. - then a slum, now 'Docklands' - open air in 1983(?) where Paul did the following intro to Gloria;' though your houses may be falling down, though your children may be strung out on heroin ....(and more) i have one word to say to you; rejoice' , Hate the way they destroyed any independent critical thought here - long before the negativeland thing, they sued and closed the Irish fanzine 'Heat' ..... Hating U2 is one of the ways I check I'm alive .....

sonofstan (sonofstan), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.metaphoria.us/FlagPatriotism/Bono_with_flagliner.jpg

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 13:10 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

No Line On The Horizon

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/music/newsid_7832000/7832748.stm

album track titles:

The full track listing is:

1. No Line On The Horizon

2. Magnificent

3. Moment of Surrender

4. Unknown Caller

5. I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight

6. Get On Your Boots

7. Stand Up Comedy

8. Fez - Being Born

9. White As Snow

10. Breathe

11. Cedars Of Lebanon

djmartian, Friday, 16 January 2009 12:41 (fifteen years ago) link

"Cedars of Lebanon" Bono's contribution to peace in the Middle East?

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Friday, 16 January 2009 12:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight

^^^ Must be the Garth Brooks collab.

"Two Ears" Laybelle (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 January 2009 12:46 (fifteen years ago) link

bono has compared the U2 sound as being influenced by trance, Led Zep and Moroccan music

back in december 2007

People will “feel the difference” when they hear the new U2 album, Bono tells The Independent. The album will find the Irish rockers taking on trance, metal and Moroccan influences. “Normally when you play a U2 tune, it clears the dance floor. And that may not be true of this. There’s some trance influences,” says Bono, forgetting his band’s own Pop album. “It’s not like anything we’ve ever done before, and we don’t think it sounds like anything anyone else has done either.” According to Bono, guitarist The Edge has “real molten metal” coming from his guitar, and that the band has recorded enough material to fit two CDs.

2009

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/a140783/u2-album-inspired-by-led-zep-jack-white.html

Speaking to Rolling Stone, the guitarist said that he is a big fan of Led Zeppelin's Jimmy Page and recently contributed to the documentary It Might Get Loud with the legendary musician.

"I was just fascinated with seeing how Jimmy played those riffs so simply, and with Jack as well," said The Edge.

The new album is said to include blues rock tracks, with the first single expected to be 'Get On Your Boots'.

Bono commented: "There's some very hardcore guitar coming out of The Edge. Real molten metal."

djmartian, Friday, 16 January 2009 12:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Please tell me that 'Stand Up Comedy' is a spoken word interlude.

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Friday, 16 January 2009 13:01 (fifteen years ago) link

At last Larry gets to shine!

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Friday, 16 January 2009 13:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Fez - Being Born - this must be the Moroccan track

djmartian, Friday, 16 January 2009 13:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Fez

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fes
is the fourth largest city in Morocco, after Casablanca, Rabat and Marrakech with a population of 946,815 (2004 census). It is the capital of the Fès-Boulemane Region.

djmartian, Friday, 16 January 2009 13:05 (fifteen years ago) link


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