_Avatar_, directed by James Cameron

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• Something James Cameron actually shouted to Arnold Schwarzenegger on the set of True Lies: "Do you want Paul Verhoeven to finish this motherfucker?"

well pull down my pants and call me swamp thing (latebloomer), Monday, 19 October 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

god, true lies would have been an awesome verhoeven.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 19 October 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah totally

well pull down my pants and call me swamp thing (latebloomer), Monday, 19 October 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Paul Verhoeven's Titanic

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 October 2009 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Rocks and Hair, coming this holiday season.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, October 19, 2009 12:52 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol.

schwantz, Monday, 19 October 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

The NY article makes you admire Cameron, and really, really wish he had decided to make something other than Avatar.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 00:57 (fourteen years ago) link

thats it exactly isnt it

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 October 2009 02:06 (fourteen years ago) link

its like you're dedicating decades and millions of dollars and your genius to...

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/409/555656-furry2_super.jpg

THIS??

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 October 2009 02:07 (fourteen years ago) link

That New Yorker article is amazing. I've only read the first paragraph!

“Watching him light is like watching two monkeys fuck a football.”

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 03:42 (fourteen years ago) link

in their pursuit of a precious superconductor called Unobtanium, are beginning to do the same to Pandora.

wait is James Cameron aiming to make a serious movie involving a material called Unobtanium?

dyao, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 06:37 (fourteen years ago) link

that is Lucas-level bullshit right there

well pull down my pants and call me swamp thing (latebloomer), Tuesday, 20 October 2009 06:43 (fourteen years ago) link

"It’s a two-fingered inverted draw past the head, like a Samurai,” he said, tracing the shape in the air over his left shoulder. “The archery instructor came and said, ‘Do you want me to teach them archery or do you want me to teach them this? This would never work.’ I said, ‘See that bush?’ It was a hundred and fifty feet away. I nailed it.”

James Cameron = the IT guy from The Office

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geZoES9KQ-Q

dyao, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 07:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I love this bit:

After he finished making “True Lies,” Cameron called Kubrick, by then a recluse, and invited himself over. They spent a day, in the basement of Kubrick’s house in the English countryside, watching “True Lies” at Kubrick’s flatbed editing station. Cameron went over the shots—Schwarzenegger in a Harrier jet firing a missile, with the villain attached to it, through an office building and into a helicopter: boom!—so that Kubrick could learn how the effects were done.

Sounds like the best friend from hell.

surfing on hokusine waves (ledge), Tuesday, 20 October 2009 09:06 (fourteen years ago) link

i like that he apparently went over to kubrick's house with a 16mm or even 35mm print of his own movie.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 09:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Kubrick was thinking "Man, I wish we were watching the new Verhoeven instead."

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 09:42 (fourteen years ago) link

“We made it in the papers once, for a U.F.O. sighting over a hot-air balloon that we built and launched at night that was powered by candles.”

loooooooooool

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Right, screw Avatar, I want to read his memoirs!

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

My friend has funny stories about James Cameron's - such as his band of ex Mossad commandos coming the rescue of his boss' house during some Malibu wildfires. Also has an anecdote about Cameron comparing the budget of Avatar to the budget of the Manhattan Project.

mayor jingleberries, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 23:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Sam Worthington: not a cartoon (he says)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link

the new yorker article is so amazing.

this paragraph is incredible:

The meeting ended on a boisterous note. “That fuckin’ rocks!” Cameron called out in response to an image of a snarling maw of thin blue-veined tissue, the mouth of the pterodactyl-like banshee that Jake’s avatar domesticates for his ride. “Look at the gill-like membrane on the side of the mouth, its transmission of light, all the secondary color saturation on the tongue, and that maxilla bone. I love what you did with the translucence on the teeth, and the way the quadrate bone racks the teeth forward. It’s a sharky thing. As wacky as this creature is, it looks completely real. Maybe I’m getting high on my own supply.” He was practically out of breath. “The banshee lives! He’s a fierce-looking sonuvabitch.”

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

saw the preview for this before paranormal activity and some guy a few rows back said "that looks terrible"

am0n, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link

If Paranormal Activity ends up being a bigger success than Avatar I am so going to laugh. (In terms of budget vs. return it's already the winner of the decade.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I basically don't know a single thing about this movie other than what's in that New Yorker profile (hadn't heard of it before), but the article did make me want to see it.

M. Grissom/DeShields (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1_JBMrrYw8

am0n, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAPyipuT-Jg

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link

trailer i saw had a lot more (awful) dialogue

am0n, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

john why did that article make you interested? this seems like the exact opposite of the types of movies you usually like

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

welcome to pandora!

http://winnipeg.cityguide.ca/images/cats.jpg

am0n, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I didn't know someone made a stage version of Thundercats!

Tuomas, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

john why did that article make you interested? this seems like the exact opposite of the types of movies you usually like

Well, I'll admit I was greatly put off by this: "The third act of “Avatar” contains what Jon Landau, the producer, calls “the mother of all movie battles.”" But I think the movie seems like it could be a visual wonderland, especially in 3D. And I like high-concept sci-fi like A.I.

M. Grissom/DeShields (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah I loved that article but did not come away feeling like i would want to be in proximity to james cameron under any circumstances.

Durian Durian (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe I’m getting high on my own supply.” He was practically out of breath. “The banshee lives! He’s a fierce-looking sonuvabitch.”

― banned, on the run (s1ocki), Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:10 PM

ahaha fuck lol

am0n, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link

"Maybe I’m getting high on my own supply.” He was practically out of breath. “The banshee lives! I am the reason LARPERS sing 'The goddess wears a thong!'"

Dynamic Leia Dress (kingkongvsgodzilla), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/avatar-header2.jpg

am0n, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

“the mother of all movie battles.”"

CGI-driven gigantic battle scenes are usually pretty boring IMHO.

Adam Bruneau, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Exactly.

M. Grissom/DeShields (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

New trailer

Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 October 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

And various reactions to same.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 October 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Everything about that just makes me think Cameron woke up one morning and decided "You know I liked the technology in the forest bits in The Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith, why didn't George make a full movie out of it?"

Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 October 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

it's pretty amazing how a guy who was once, like, the toughest mfer when it came to writing and directing action films has turned into such a weirdo furry.

jØrdån (omar little), Friday, 30 October 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Creatures and "jungle wonders" still look cheezy as hell, and the sawed-off jarhead dialogue sounds worse, but the new trailer does make it look like an entertaining (and perhaps even moving) Aliens/Abyss-style military adventure flick. In, yeah, a weirdo furry kinda way.

from alcoholism to fleshly concerns (contenderizer), Friday, 30 October 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

CGI-driven gigantic battle scenes are usually pretty boring IMHO

modescalator (blueski), Friday, 30 October 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

xxp Well it was always there. See the The Abyss.

We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Friday, 30 October 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

at least i think i got tired of it after 2003 xp

modescalator (blueski), Friday, 30 October 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link

It would be so, so awesome if everything we've seen/heard about "Avatar" was actually restricted to the first 30 minutes of the movie, and the rest was all, like, talk. Sort of like the opposite of "Aliens."

I say with tongue obviously in cheek, because a) this would never happen and b) Cameron is actually a pretty weak writer, classic line-or two and bits of "The Abyss" aside. "Avatar" just seems like such an obviously, well, obvious allegory - and lo and beyond, the primitive other has lessons to teach us all! - that it would take a really clever, perceptive screenwriter to transform it from spectacle to anything substantive. Giant blue Thunder-Ewoks don't help matters.

That author of that b.s. "New Yorker" profile, by the way, clearly had seen little to no more of the film than any of us plebes have. Either that or he was legally obligated to keep it confidential.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 October 2009 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link

"Should I talk about the bit where they -- "

"Shut up, you."

"Sorry."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 October 2009 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, by the way - what fucking bureaucrat would call the planet Pandora? That's just asking for trouble! What were the runner-ups? Pompeii? Krakatoa? Hades?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 October 2009 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Titanic, Hindenburg and Lusitania were also under consideration.

(oh PORRIDGE) (HI DERE), Friday, 30 October 2009 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, Last.fm.

(ba dum bump)

Bears Are Alive! (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 30 October 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

"we're headin' to the planet warsaw ghetto..."

jØrdån (omar little), Friday, 30 October 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link


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