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bill pullman in a surprise cameo

remy bean, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Well already I'm very pleased with the nonchalant approach to the absurd evident in Pynchon's writing-style. I've heard it scales astonishing heights of intense and comic intricacy. Sounds fab. Will get on the case as soon as I get home tomorrow.

Just got offed, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Roberto Rodriguez would do a fab job, maybe with particularly surreal sections either by Pixar or rotoscope-style (or both!)

s.clover, Saturday, 16 August 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

pynchon really needs an action director for the most part, and a straight-up genre director in general.

s.clover, Saturday, 16 August 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Is this book anything like 'O Lucky Man'?

I have to say the X-Treme enthusiasm for this over the entire history of ILX has made me not want to read it, ever.

Abbott, Saturday, 16 August 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Not being funny, but y'know O Lucky Man is a re-working of Candide, right? GR does have elements of them in it, come to think of it. I understand what you mean about being off-put, but I think it's beautiful and like most big beautiful books best approached as a quilty wonderland to get lost in rather than as a code to break or a mountain to climb.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 16 August 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

richard kelly

kl0pper, Monday, 18 August 2008 10:05 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry, coen brothers suck. who could be this funny and amazing? no one. leave it as a fucking book for once.

strgn, Monday, 18 August 2008 10:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Noodle Vague OTM re "quilty wonderland"

I am using your worlds, Monday, 18 August 2008 10:24 (fifteen years ago) link

yes! why some things should never be film adapted unless they are something completely different

strgn, Monday, 18 August 2008 10:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Could work as an ongoing prime time soap opera style serial though, 30 mins a week in perpetuity. And I still think an animated version might work.

I am using your worlds, Monday, 18 August 2008 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link

totally, anything serial or genre. animated would be amazing but crazy. graphic novel?

strgn, Monday, 18 August 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

There is some German film based on (bits of) GR. It also features Robert Forster out of the Go Betweens! Trailer is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ046SJpl8E

Stevie T, Monday, 18 August 2008 12:36 (fifteen years ago) link

"as per leslie fiedler there is little difference, generically, between sex porn and horror-porn"

huh well even for leslie fiedler that's cracky

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i haven't reread this book in like almost two years! this makes me sad.

thomp, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 00:25 (fifteen years ago) link

malcolm mcdowell would be the best of all possible slothrups

remy bean, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 02:10 (fifteen years ago) link

leave it as a fucking book for once.

generally, i agree with this sentiment. but i think the narrative of GR is one of the most brilliant and beautifully crafted things i have ever read. i would love to see it in visual form. preferably while pynchon is still alive and is willing to work on it. most likely that will never happen.

cutty, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link

there's always the opera, which he technically agreed to

thomp, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

coogan?

s.clover, Friday, 22 August 2008 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link

x post

He only agreed for the opera if it was entirely scored for kazoo

I am using your worlds, Saturday, 23 August 2008 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Banjo, I think.

Stevie T, Saturday, 23 August 2008 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

It is now almost exactly 5 years since I finished this book. I hope it has improved a bit in that time.

the pinefox, Monday, 25 August 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Or maybe you have?

s.clover, Monday, 25 August 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought it was ukulele; I wonder if the whole story is actually apocryphal.

I am quite impressed that the pinefox finished this book, considering his distaste for it.

thomp, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 11:02 (fifteen years ago) link

more & more I think certain aspects of its reputation are unearned, but also unaimed for � aspects which help it maintain a kind of cachet without helping readers or potential readers read it better, or read anything else

I tend to change my mind twice about whether any novel of P.'s is any good at least twice during the course of a reading. I have decided to reread Against The Day next, but only if I see the American edition somewhere.

thomp, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Though uke and kazoo are both plausible, according to LA herself it was banjo:

http://www.transmitmedia.com/svr/vault/anderson/ander_transcript.html

Stevie T, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Well already I'm very pleased with the nonchalant approach to the absurd evident in Pynchon's writing-style. I've heard it scales astonishing heights of intense and comic intricacy. Sounds fab. Will get on the case as soon as I get home tomorrow.

-- Just got offed, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:33 (2 weeks ago) Link


HOW ARE YOU SO GOOD AT MAKING THINGS I LIKE SOUND TERRIBLE

bernard snowy, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 03:09 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

robert downey jr gains 40 pounds and plays slothrop, please

cutty, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

took me like five months but i finally finished it

fleetwood (max), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

sounds like it was a chore for you

velko, Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

shit i need to do this

kell surprise (country matters), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

it would probably be in my top 10 favorite books.

somewhere a poll is missing its wacky write-in vote (sarahel), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

congrats max, i couldn't even get all the way through the crying of lot 49 ;_;

steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

lol xp

i read the first 10 pages last summer and they were great...but then i just stopped...i've not been in the habit of reading novels since graduating, and now i actually don't have the time to even if the urge struck

but this in every way sounds like the kind of thing i'd go nuts for

kell surprise (country matters), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

crying of lot 49 is nowhere near as good as GR or M&D or IV imho

Mr. Que, Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I have as yet to finish M&D. I'm not sure why it felt like such a struggle - maybe it was the historical period and subjects it tackled.

somewhere a poll is missing its wacky write-in vote (sarahel), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

no, it wasnt a chore, but the last 150 pages were kind of tough going for me

fleetwood (max), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i was proud of myself for being able to follow what was happening, more or less

fleetwood (max), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 V & GR, sorta underwhelmed by crying of lot 49, loathed M&D to the point of never wanting to read any new pynchon ever

velko, Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

erm, even if the urge *strikes*, that should be. anyway after i finish my MA i swear to every mod on ilx that i will read this mfing novel next summer

kell surprise (country matters), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

we will have a parade in your honor, complete with animated penguin gifs

somewhere a poll is missing its wacky write-in vote (sarahel), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

octopus master of ceremonies

Mr. Que, Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

anyway max dude you read the best authors, plz be my pending lit guru, i want you to check on my pynchon and nabokov intake come this time next year with all the assiduity of a coroner, que and velko and sarahel can play too

kell surprise (country matters), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

tbh all i really read is "postmodern fiction" and scandinavian crime novels

fleetwood (max), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

and hp lovecraft

fleetwood (max), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm trying to remember the last novel i read - i think it was The Financier by Theodore Dreisser. It wasn't all that great, but I did learn about puts, calls, short selling, and various other stock market products, that apparently existed in some form even back then.

somewhere a poll is missing its wacky write-in vote (sarahel), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

crying of lot 49 is nowhere near as good as GR or M&D or IV imho

Interesting. I've read L49 and I am observing IV cautiously from afar. Just read an ambiguous review of it (Bookforum) that had to defend its unsatisfactory aspects as really intentional and the whole point.

alimosina, Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

is richard powers the kinder gentler pynchon? is he a better writer than pynchon?

scott seward, Monday, 5 October 2009 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link

did you read james wood's review of richard powers?? i think he would disagree w/ you. it was pretty brutal

just sayin, Monday, 5 October 2009 08:34 (fourteen years ago) link

still haven't read richard powers. and i've had a copy of 'time of our singing' hanging around since, like, 2003.

thomp, Monday, 5 October 2009 09:13 (fourteen years ago) link

He's kindler and gentler, but that's about it.

Get Up (I Feel Like Being A) Hamletmachine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 October 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link


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