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I think the problem with "Rocker" is partly the way that people react to it... the sudden switches in the track, and the way that everyone waits for the synth hook, makes it feel a bit like a singalong rock song where the audience knows the chorus and gears themselves up for it (think "Why Does It Always Rain On Me"). Which is not to say that other big dance tracks don't do this too, but the progression feels less organic in "Rocker" (perhaps owing to its rock song structure). People don't seem interested in dancing to the groove so much as demonstrating their awareness of the track and enjoyment of it - it's one of those hands-in-the-air anthems where you put yr hands in the air partly because it seems like "the thing to do".

The distinction with eg. "Drop The Pressure" is that because everything is anchored on that looped bouncy synth hook the whole thing feels more unified, and like the audience is enjoying it as a dance track.

I still like "Rocker" BTW, but I think it's particularly susceptible to becoming irritating through over-familiarity for those reasons.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 16 January 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Who is that yousendit track by?

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 16 January 2005 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link

sounds like galleon

― :| (....), Sunday, 16 January 2005 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.man-and-man.com/lre/daft_robot_rock.MPG

― injektilo*, Sunday, 16 January 2005 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Gosh.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 16 January 2005 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link

That is such a funny way to hear a new tune!

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 17 January 2005 00:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh jeez, they've become such U.S.E. wannabes...

*dodges rocks*

― donut christ (donut), Monday, 17 January 2005 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah! Droney like "Fresh", funky like Discovery. I like.

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Monday, 17 January 2005 02:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh jeez, they've become such U.S.E. wannabes...

i realize i'm in the minority here, but i really hope this isn't true.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 17 January 2005 02:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Pretty cool tune. It would be great if Daft Punk toured w/Justus Kohncke, and I had to kneel in submission to a plastic dance-rock revolution. That probably won't happen, but it's fun to think about.

― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 17 January 2005 02:29 (nineteen years ago) link

if this track sounds this good from a distance-mike recording of a PA, it's going to sound amazing on CD.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 January 2005 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm with ya mark

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 January 2005 03:49 (nineteen years ago) link

haha i KNEW i'd heard that guitar sample from the new daft punk track somewhere. check murs & 9th wonder's "intro"!

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 17 January 2005 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Ooh this song is awesome. I don't hear any USE-ness really.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 17 January 2005 06:21 (nineteen years ago) link

(um guys, I was being facetious)

― donut christ (donut), Monday, 17 January 2005 06:22 (nineteen years ago) link

yes but your joke made us THINK!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 January 2005 06:35 (nineteen years ago) link

think awful things.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 17 January 2005 06:38 (nineteen years ago) link

united hate of funtronica

― donut christ (donut), Monday, 17 January 2005 06:50 (nineteen years ago) link

what the...

Is that an mpg from a club or something? i am so not understanding...

― piscesboy, Monday, 17 January 2005 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

yeh it's from a club where someone had a promo i guess. it's a little frustrating (that it doesn't do more) but still infectious (in what it does do, and clearly works best LOUD).

― Stevem On X (blueski), Monday, 17 January 2005 12:33 (nineteen years ago) link

i KNEW i'd heard that guitar sample from the new daft punk track somewhere. check murs & 9th wonder's "intro"!

Good call! Any idea what the source sample is?

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 17 January 2005 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

May as well be Ulysses 31 - GOOD THING. Sorta Ulysses/Cornelius - 'Drop' + 'Another View Point'/Discovery. That shit is absolutely fantastic and hearing that makes me actually anticipate my b-day.

― March 21 is B4RIM4 DAY, FOOLS (Barima), Monday, 17 January 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm in an immense pickle over whether to totally save it until it comes out (probably more satisfying in the long run), or cling onto every new little bit of whatever that's leaked (bit of instant grat)!

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 17 January 2005 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link

what's 'U.S.E.'

― nick.K (nick.K), Monday, 17 January 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

"united states of electronica"

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 17 January 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

oooh. it sounds (maybe it's the mic and the crowd noise) like it should be the imagined futuristic dance music from the club scene in "Space Mutiny" starring John Phillip Law and, uh, Reb Brown. yes!

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 17 January 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link

is that really them?

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I am going to listen again, cos on first listen that sounded fairly boring.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 January 2005 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link

and I really really have faith for this album as being the one that keeps the youth part of me which liked album-dance alive.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 January 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

it sounds like Daft Punk doing a cover version of Rage Against The Machine. fucking shit!

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 January 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

this is tragic, I am trying so hard to like it

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 January 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link

maybe it's not them! don't panic yet!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 January 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I hope it's not them! But it sounds like them enough to be them!

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 January 2005 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link

GUITARS.. OMG!

― donut christ (donut), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I mean, did the total guitar-cum-synth wank solos on "Aerodynamic" and "Digital Love" just pass over you? Or are you just not into rhythm guitar stabs?

― donut christ (donut), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link

thousands of dance records have guitars in them. there is nothing to this except the guitar, it actually does sound like WWF intro music.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link

And the problem here is....?

― donut christ (donut), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link

(i really like the track, and want to acquire this.. whether it's Daft Punk or not.)

― donut christ (donut), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I am willing to wait to hear a proper version cos I would expect the drums to be a bit more interesting in that.

This sounds like something off that fucking Prodigy album. The only saving grace is a distant reminder and faraway scent of Daft Punk on the breeze.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link

And the problem here is...?

THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE TRUE GUITARIST OF OUR TIME ON THIS ALBUM

http://www.marcweb.de/yngwie.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, the track is supposedly called "Robot Rock".

I'm just mystified by the horror here, that's all. (haha, "Rage Against The Machine" cover? anything with lots of guitar = RATM I guess.)

And yeah, those two Discovery singles sounded like they had emulated Yngwie solos, totally!

― donut christ (donut), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Donut this is stupid, I just told you the guitars thing is not a problem, not least cos as I said there are guitars on loads of dance tracks.

And I have heard Rage Against The Machine, many songs, like most young people probably have. The tempo and the way the guitar is looped over an almost hiphop beat sounds so like RATM! I was rooting around my brain for "what does this sound like" and I first thought "WWF music" then "Rage Against The Machine".

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

also, clearly you know I do like "Aerodynamic" and "Digital Love", so am I supposed to be pretending not to like this even though in actual scientific fact it is as good?

It's a fucking loop! It's only barely electronic in the dance sense, it's got no pop sensibility and it's too calm to be techno.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link

and as I said, it actually mentally fucking hurts me to have to write this and I keep thinking "oh let me just listen again", but this track is shit! I think alot of ILMers will agree too.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link

It's the "WWF Music" = "RATM" thing I disagree with.. RATM without the vocals would sound like a gazillion other rock bands. I was confused by your comparison because I was like "there's not shouting about Communist guerilla groups getting the power back here", which to me defines RATM far more than their guitar sound. Also, this is too choppy for RATM, even sans vocals. Usually there's a continuity to RATM's rock, where this just stabs a lot.. more like Prodigy, granted. I was mainly questioning the RATM mention, mainly.

You guys do know that the new Daft Punk features two songs with Dennis DeYoung on vocals, right?

― donut christ (donut), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link

It's a fucking loop! It's only barely electronic in the dance sense, it's got no pop sensibility and it's too calm to be techno.

Except for the 'too calm' part, that describes a good chunk of Homework and many songs after the first four on Discovery, like "Crescendolls" and others. Are you a fan of Daft Punk albums, or just the singles, then?

― donut christ (donut), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I heard the album the other day at the record company. That is definitely the real Robot Rock.
As for the rest of the album think very basic production and drum programming, lots of Tone Loc-guitars, lots of monotony and lots of vocoders. Theoretically it is great: when the whole world is on this Daft Punk revival trip with stuff like "Drop The Pressure", "Call On Me" and "Yeah" they make their least "pop", least accessible, least "disco" record yet (although one of those rock guitars is similar to Donna Summers "Hot Stuff"). And theory is what really matters, riiiight?
Last track "Emotion" is pretty, you could sing Maria McKees "Show Me Heaven" to it.

― Essdot, Monday, 17 January 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago) link

So, Daft Punk are now the 200X edition of Two Men, A Drum Machine, And A Trumpet!!

"I'm tired of gettin' pushed around..... *GUITAR STAB*"

― donut christ (donut), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I love both albums, but that description does not in my opinion describe anything on Discovery, and not much on Homework either cos of the "too calm" part.

Discovery is pop through and through. This is middlebrow Prodigy style bad dance/hiphop.

And this is the single, jesus this is the band who did "One More Time", "Digital Love", Bangalter did "Music Sounds Better With You". There is NO EMOTIONAL CONTENT WHATSOEVER in Robot Rock and no physical connection either.

I just feel bad, cos I am sure 90 percent of the Discovery fans are gonna be gutted when they hear this track, I really hope the album is better.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Ess is some of it actually far out or weird?

Cos to me "Robot Rock" is extremely accessible, just boring.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link

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