2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

(in polls obv)

fun parlor game from ambinder:

To the Secret Service (technically to the WHCA), President Bush is Trailblazer, Laura Bush is Tempo, HRC is Evergreen, Bill Clinton is Eagle, Dick Cheney is Angler, and Barack Obama is Renegade.

John McCain respects the Service but has said he is wary of their presence. On the trail, he sometimes has security around him, and those tough veteran buddies and his big burly advance guys provide a nice circle of protection..

But the United States Secret Service has not yet been authorized by the Department of Homeland Security to provide him with a detail, according to a Secret Service spokesman.

Opening up a can of worms here, but when they do, what should his code name be?

grandpa

McBane

shakey

waht

grumpus

no. 6

McClane

hanoi

juan

^

skeletor

http://i29.tinypic.com/fthq9f.jpg

2:1?? that seems kinda unlikely

3:1? I'll believe it when I see it (somewhere else) xp

yah well the exit polls have been over-estimating obama the whole time but still...

obama walking down the street w/pizza and beers on tv

dr teeth

The Clinton campaign is releasing a radio advertisement aimed towards Hispanic voters in Texas that proclaims "Hillary is our friend,” and promotes the candidate's plan for universal health care.

"She respects our culture and understands the problems that affect our community," an announcer says in the thirty-second ad, which has been used to target Hispanics in previous primary contests. "Let's vote for Hillary…and we will have a better life."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/12/dems-look-to-texas/

subtle

http://infocusmagazine.org/6.2/images/bsoc_hispanics_in_america1.jpg
lets all vote hillary! aiyee!

hey so apparently next debate is here in austin

will try to go

which candidate will be the first to drop some spanish

the first to speak no doubt

and in so doing win my vote

lol i made cnn. jack cafferty just read my answer to his silly question about whether hillary can reign in bill for four years and keep him scandal-free. CLAY FROM PORTLAND WRITES...

whoa rugged

I better call my mom. she'll be so proud.

which candidate will be the first to drop some spanish

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and in so doing win my vote

First candidate to sing Cheetah Girls' Fuego has my vote.

waht did u write: lol no of course not dont be silly?

Gearshift

something about "Considering he's already been in a few small-scale scandals since primary season began it seems unlikely that four years of intense scrutiny won't... lol bubba"

MSNBC CALL VIRGINA FOR OBAMA BASED ON EXIT POLLS! BIG WIN!

hmmm so is CNN - that means the exit poll margins must be ridiculous

lol hueg

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/images/fox-demexitpolls-big.jpg

she purdy

ouch

so this is coming down to texas and penn, right? I mean, does HRC even stand a chance winning that few states in the primaries? where is obama polling everywhere else?

He's projected to win Wisconsin and Hawaii handily - Hillary's banking on Ohio, TX, and Pennsylvania but assuming that she'll maintain her leads in those states with this much momentum and money behind Obama seems dubious. It will come down to how much of the party leadership thinks she MUST win over Obama because she presents a better chance in the GE - but I don't think they're going to draw that conclusion. They'd be foolish to step in front of Obama's speeding train at that point...

lol clinton spin: we knew we werent going to win - wtf is that supposed to even mean?

uncle mo

that post was kinda a mess - what I mean is if it comes down to the superdelegates granting a decisive majority, their going to have to have overridingly powerful institutional and electoral reasons to back Hillary over Obama, and at this point I don't think they do. The party is going to come to the realization that the Clinton's national political capital is spent, and that the better option for the party is to get behind the dynamic populist that has a better shot at beating McCain. Hillary is running out of arguments for why she should get the nomination (minor policy differences on healthcare and delusionally self-serving "I'm more experienced!" talking points aren't gonna cut it.)

x-post

I didn't even want your stupid primary!

Hassan Nemazee, another national finance chairman for Mrs. Clinton, said he was also telling his network of allies not to get caught up in the headlines about Obama

“I’m telling donors and supporters: Don’t be overly concerned about what goes on in the remainder of the month of February because these are not states teed up well for us,” Mr. Nemazee said.

superdelegates aside I think that if obama takes either texas or ohio then he's going to be so far ahead in pledged delegates that hillary is going to be out, or at least, it would make sense for her to bow out. but we'll see.

yeah Hillary's mounting excuses sound like she's dismissing the electorate ("oh those negros don't matter, neither does THAT state cuz we won't win it in the GE, by the way the only states that do matter are the ones where I'm polling ahead even though I may not win them, etc.") That shit is not gonna play well - no one wants to back a loser.

otoh I honestly can't conceive of Hillary bowing out gracefully. I predict some kind of scary meltdown/lashing out.