I hate coffee

or if it's foamy as opposed to creamy >:(

yeah the #1 cause of bad milk & coffee drinks is improperly foamed milk

the guy at the coffee shop I go to has been trying to teach me how to get that microtexture, it's difficult...he OTOH could probably do it blindfolded, as he says it's based on the sound of the steam wand thingy

intersting. i note the noobz that work gloria jeans and shit hav a thermometer in the milk

i just remembered how awesome affogatos are!!

http://www.foodtv.ca/DMM/G/E/Gelato_Affogato_002.jpg

i wish i could have coffee at 9 pm!

i hate harbl for her hating bacon but liking coffee

thought i would put that out

xpost tell me about it, my cutoff is 2:00-ish or I won't sleep until 6:00am. I think I need to cut back majorly cuz I've come to rely on the caffeine for basic brain function. But I <3 it so!

preground coffee goes to shit so quickly :^(

i started keeping it in a airtight container but it still kinda sux. need to buy a grinder

Does keeping it in the freezer help? I thought that was pretty standard, freezing coffee -- either ground or whole bean.

Somewhere I read about about perfectly foamed milk being "the consistency of household paint" which is 100% OTM and is not the case 99.89% of the time.

DON'T put it in the freezer unless you're only going to take it out once and keep it out

the moisture from condensation + re-freezing will make it gross

we keep ours in the freezer--no complaints here

but store-grinding a pound and keeping it in air-tight container is fine if you use it up fast enough imo? maybe u guys are too slow
xpost you keep it in the freezer every day? i'm skeptical of u.

yeah Mr. Que's coffee (made with WF Pleasant Morning Buzz ground-at-the-store beans) is my favorite coffee.

whatever harbl

i got you liking coffee now--and this is the thanks i get

and yes it goes back into the freezer every time

we buy one (usually pre ground) container a week, use it up in a week. keep it in the freezer.

i liked coffee before. you can't take the credit anyway.

Freezing Coffee - Not as Good as an Iced Mocha
Some people store their coffee in the freezer thinking it is going to keep the coffee fresh. Here are a couple of reasons why storing coffee in your freezer is a bad idea:

* Coffee is porous. This is a good thing for fans of flavored coffee as the beans absorb the coffee flavoring syrups and oils that are used to make flavored coffee. However, if given the chance, coffee can also absorb other things like the flavor of seafood or the moisture that your freezer produces. This moisture will in turn deteriorate the coffee and even make it taste like, well... like a freezer.
* When coffee is roasted, the beans release their oils and essences to give the coffee its distinct flavor. You'll notice these oils are more prominent on dark-roasted coffee and espresso. When you break down these oils by freezing, you are removing the flavor.

Think about it...if coffee tasted better and fresher from the freezer, then you would buy it in the frozen food section, your local coffee shop might look more like an ice cream parlor, and our power bills would be through the roof trying to maintain a meat-locker the size of a warehouse.

i think i hate it now

― fantazy land (harbl), Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:12 PM (5 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you're welcome

let's rely on "Dawn" from Yahoo Answers instead of me, King of Coffee

no

that's not from yahoo answers you butt

i've brought you into the promised land, and this is the thanks i get

About

We’re Mark and Janice. He loves his flavoured coffee while I have a passion for baking cupcakes. Together we hope to share our passions and well if you like to get something from us, we’ll be delighted to serve you

they sound like swingers

When you freeze the coffee you use every day, the fluctuating temperatures create moisture in the packet, which can leave your morning cup tasting like cardboard. "The cell structure changes, which causes a loss of the oils that give coffee its aroma and flavor," says McMartin.

Freezing or Refrigerating Coffee Beans - It is generally not recommended to store coffee beans in the freezer or refrigerator. The enemies of coffee are extreme temperatures (hot or cold), air, light, moisture, and strong odors. The freezer is acceptable only for a one-time shot. What this means, is that once you take it out of the freezer, it should never go back in. Condensation can form and adversely affect taste, as the frozen moisture on your coffee will melt and be absorbed into the bean, which deplete the flavorful oils.

i mean, i've never had a problem with it tasting stale and if i did i would alter my methods. i can give you names and addresses of people who have tasted my delicious coffee and you can interrogate them.

science doesn't lie

don't freeze the bean

harbl is standing on very strong ground (haha, get it)

i keep my fresh oaxacan coffee beans out and grind them fresh every morning. having some coffee right now in fact. mm-mmm!

http://www.gerka.ru/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/dale-cooper-twin-peaks-coffee-3004-1.jpg

Freezing & Thawing: You don't thaw it out every time, you just scoop a little bit from the bag in the freezer and put it straight back in. It only freezes once.

Porosity: Good point, if you have a stinky freezer. Also a good reason to put the bag of coffee in a plastic bin, bag, however you normally store long-term frozen goods.

Oils: I don't know about this. Does freezing "break down" the "oils"? I'm asking, I don't know. But that clip doesn't offer any evidence that it does.

The last point, about storing ALL coffee in the freezer, is just...nonsensical. Coffee in a store or a warehouse has turnover -- if it didn't, and it sat on the shelf and got stale, you'd buy it somewhere else. But once you get it home, you're stuck with it. THAT'S the point at which freezing is useful.

maybe we should change the title of this thread, harbl, to "let's freak out over coffee"

Seriously who are these people who thaw it out and re-freeze it every day? Their household must be chaos, what with siphoning all the gas out of their cars every night and pouring it back in when they want to drive to work in the morning.

my coffee's so strong i fill up my car with it

good coffee oils are crucial to a good cuppa

I pity you paper drip dudes

look, these are trusted coffee experts saying these things. it doesn't take that long for a tiny amount of condensation to form, and the oils in coffee are water soluble iirc. freezing a pound of coffee you're going to keep moving in and out of the freezer (even for a few seconds) is dumb. you guys are dumb.

think about allthose ice crystals you get in your gallon tub of breyers ice cream

i guess i'm dumb

Yeah, well, we froze it because we had to drive an hour or more to buy anything besides what comes canned in the supermarket. It's a compromise. Also I still don't really believe them about the DASTARDLY CONDENSATION OH NOES.

come to my house and drink my coffee. we'll see who is dumb

THAT'S WHATS HAPPENING TO YOUR COFFEE

let's freak out over coffee