Harper's Magazine: C/D

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Lapham would write these long rants at the beginning of each mag too; I think the coup article was by someone else, but I take it Lapham commissioned or at least accepted it. If he's gone, I might go back, because yeah their archives are rad, and the fiction is nice.

Euler, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

new yorker, evan. i kind of hate harper's.

horseshoe, Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i had a subscription to the economist one year but it made me feel so guilty because i never read it and it came like every day it seemed so the piles of it i had lying around unread were physical testament to the many, many things i didn't know.

horseshoe, Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

sometimes the nyer piles up, yes, but it is more fun to read than the other magazines you're considering imo and you can take your back-new yorkers on vacation with you and they are very relaxing reading in my experience.

horseshoe, Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah go w/ new yorker, smart enough to not make u mad but not so taxing that u avoid it because it will be difficult

if u have a commute on public transportation its great--never piles up for me cuz i read it on the subway/train

Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

atlantic is totally ridiculous now, they should just change the name to "challops bimonthly"

Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

i dont hate harpers but i only ever read the "readings" and the index and the "findings" im always way disappointed by the essays and whatnot

Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

fuck the atlantic for real

horseshoe, Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

I should just get a sub to New Yorker, my mother-in-law gets it and every time we visit I spend lots of time flipping through them.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i have a visceral hatred for the economist because its a big signifier for "im a white douchebag poli-sci major who will describe himself as a 'moderate' and be totally dismissive of anyone to the left of joe lieberman despite having picked up all of my opinions from my advisor and this magazine" or at least it was in my school

Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i was sort of hoping that the atlantic having hua hsu and ta-nehisi coates would make it better but ummm so far it hasnt

Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

yes i would like to except ta-nehisi coates but he can't write all their articles, unfortunately

horseshoe, Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

i dont know why not it only comes out like every three months and is like 20 pages long

Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

harper's had a very good run in the 90s but lapham became increasingly tiresome during the bush years. i know he's not there anymore but i haven't checked it lately to see the changes

velko, Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

i never understood what people see in the economist

velko, Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

i subscribed because i thought it would make me know a lot of things all at once. i cannot remember a single thing about it, though

horseshoe, Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

the few times i picked it up i noticed its articles on america tended to have lots of errors, so it made me question what i was reading about the international stuff, which is why you'd pick it up in the first place (as an american)

velko, Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

i had a subscription to the economist one year but it made me feel so guilty because i never read it and it came like every day it seemed so the piles of it i had lying around unread were physical testament to the many, many things i didn't know.

― horseshoe, Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:04 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is precisely what happened. i let the subscription lapse, it was just too much to handle

a perfect urkel (gbx), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

and reading back issues of the economist is pretty much a non-starter

a perfect urkel (gbx), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

nyer is the best of these imo. totally OTM upthread about harper's seeming more & more like a leftist conspiracy mag. by contrast the political writing in the nyer is pretty good and usually a pretty reliable part of the magazine. the 'profiles' are also usually really good

i almost never read the fiction tho, and there are a lot of issues that i just don't have time to read. i wish they did more regular music crit, too, seems like only 1 or two issues a month has it.

mark cl, Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i used to keep all of them too, but it got too crazy w/ all the back issues everywhere. i'd pick up an older issue and swear to myself that i had never seen that particular cover before. now i clean them out every month, so i only keep the 3 or 4 most recent issues. if there's an article i really like, i know that as a subscriber i can always access it online

but it's super cheap 4 realz - i pay like $40 a year for weekly issues, and it gets cheaper the longer you subscribe.

mark cl, Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

new york review of books!

mookieproof, Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link

i think they do music essays every issue--pop music reviews are more like every other issue

Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i am of the opinion that a lot of their critics are stupid and/or irritating

Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

i have a visceral hatred for the economist because its a big signifier for "im a white douchebag poli-sci major who will describe himself as a 'moderate' and be totally dismissive of anyone to the left of joe lieberman despite having picked up all of my opinions from my advisor and this magazine" or at least it was in my school

― Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:15 AM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

;_; why you gotta cut to my core like that

(fwiw i like but do not subscribe to the economist, dislike lieberman, and i was a poli sci/econ double major, SO THERE)

chemical ali v. chemical frazier (m bison), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i agree with mookieproof - it's the best by far of this bunch

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

"eat shit - 1,000,000 flies can't be wrong" -- the economist

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

i was a poli sci/econ double major

fwiw u are worse than a theater major

Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

:C

chemical ali v. chemical frazier (m bison), Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i never understood what people see in the economist

― velko, Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:20 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark

good writing on, imo, e. europe and africa that doesn't start with, "hey! there's a country called swaziland!" or whatever.

goole, Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link

there's a lot worse than a theater major big max and I say this as an english/classical studies dude (no horse)

cosign w/Review of Books, or even Bookforum which isn't great & is often too cursory but on the other hand gets some good essayists now and then (Vollman a few months back with a straightup incredible review of some newer Holocaust books) & won't pile up unread like NYROBs almost surely will. OTOH William Gass is writing for Harper's pretty regularly, and he's one of the best stylists alive, if a total misanthrope, but imo his ability to tease cruelty out of even the simplest idea makes him worth the price of a subscription

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah theres way worse shit than theater majors, such as kinesiology majors, or ECON POLI-SCI DOUBLE MAJORS

Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

haaahaahaha

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link

the school next to mine was basically all econ/polsci's and they all had ANNOY THE LIBERAL MEDIA: TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THE REAGAN-BUSH LEGACY posters in their dorm windows

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

not that guy

chemical ali v. chemical frazier (m bison), Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

bunch of winners those dudes

Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

luckily they are all in positions of unbelievable power making policy in washington LOL ;_;

Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

if it makes u feel better, i am in a position of no power in not washington

chemical ali v. chemical frazier (m bison), Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

i shouldnt be fronting, i was president of the young democrats one year

Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

luckily they are all in positions of unbelievable power making policy in washington LOL ;_;

most of them went straight to wall street or the chicago board of trade and I am assuming a number of them moved back in with their parents last year

unlike my classmates who were smokin weed then and are doubtless smokin weed now

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

holla

Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

if u have a commute on public transportation its great--never piles up for me cuz i read it on the subway/train

^^this

M. Grissom/DeShields (jaymc), Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

oh someone recommended the new york review of books the other day!

a perfect urkel (gbx), Thursday, 15 October 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

The intro essay for Harper's (formerly all Lapham, now revolving I think?) is usually amusingly indecipherable.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Thursday, 15 October 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

nyrb rules but its so giant and unruly i feel like a total bag reading it in public

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 15 October 2009 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i would read it on the bus while standing and feel like HM HELLO YES I LIVE THE LIFE OF THE MIND AND GARGLE TESTICLES

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 15 October 2009 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link

hoosbag

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 15 October 2009 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i haven't been reading any of these mags for a while now - i used to subscribe to them all and when i worked at the hospital i would just steal old ones - and i don't miss them at all.

there really needs to be some new magazines. or something. i would tell people to subscribe to a good science magazine. or smithsonian. or national geo. i find that stuff more entertaining these days than old guard handwringers and lethemite types.

scott seward, Thursday, 15 October 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

reading the NYRB online feels really, really strange, but I do it

oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Thursday, 15 October 2009 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i had a subscription to the economist one year but it made me feel so guilty because i never read it and it came like every day it seemed so the piles of it i had lying around unread were physical testament to the many, many things i didn't know.

HA HA. Yeah, substitue the Economist for Scientific American, and I felt the same way. I stopped my subscription two years ago, and I still have some back issues to read.

musicfanatic, Thursday, 15 October 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link


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