Weezer -- Classic or Dud?

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thats a misconception you are perpetuating

chaki in charge (chaki), Monday, 3 January 2005 18:30 (nineteen years ago) link

awful. Occasionally catchy but mostly gives me the hives.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 3 January 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

so very wrong

chaki in charge (chaki), Monday, 3 January 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry, I've never been able to get over my mid-90s indier-than-thou hatred of them as a vastly inferior Pavement cash-in ("Buddy Holly" vs. intro of "Silence Kit" = Pavement wins)

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 3 January 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Weezer are way more "musical" than Pavement. Pavement were way cooler dudes that got laid. Weezer were band nerds that practiced their guitars and vocal harmonies constantly. Pavement didnt care about that stuff.

chaki in charge (chaki), Monday, 3 January 2005 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link

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Ganbare Goemon (ex machina), Monday, 3 January 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link

b-b-but Rivers Cuomo is so into getting laid (specifically by little Japanese girls) its fucking creepy! seriously.

also Malkmus is FAR and away the better, more inventive guitarist. really knows his weirdo english folk records, bizarre tunings, phrasing, etc.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 3 January 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Pavement were way cooler dudes that got laid.

I never got that impression from a Pavement album.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 3 January 2005 18:46 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.benchmarkalpacas.com/SweetEmoFull1203.jpg

Ganbare Goemon (ex machina), Monday, 3 January 2005 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link

lol @ alpacas

b-b-but Rivers Cuomo is so into getting laid (specifically by little Japanese girls) its fucking creepy! seriously.

yeah thats pent up frustration from years of NOT BEING FAMOUS

also Malkmus is FAR and away the better, more inventive guitarist. really knows his weirdo english folk records, bizarre tunings, phrasing, etc

WEEZER ALSO USE WEIRD TUNING AND RIVERS IS BETTER AT METAL AND 70S ROCK SOLOS THAN MALK.

chaki in charge (chaki), Monday, 3 January 2005 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

("Buddy Holly" vs. intro of "Silence Kit" = Pavement wins)

Dude I just bought the CR reissue and am listening to it - "Range Life" now playing - and loving it but CAUCASIAN PLEASE.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 3 January 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't remember if I like the Blue album or CR, CR more

miccio (miccio), Monday, 3 January 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link

dood do you even hear the connection I'm talking about re: "Silence Kit" and "Buddy Holly"?

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 3 January 2005 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, but I don't give a shit. Buddy Holly is better.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 3 January 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
bumping pinkerton for the first time in years.

makes me want to wear my old weezer t-shirts and make that "W" sign with my hands that everybody makes at their shows.

i really like a lot of the kind of hard to find pinkerton demos and stuff between pinkerton and the green album. 'Keep Your Distance', 'Longtime Sunshine', 'Walt Disney' in particular.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

dud

The Grand Piano, Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Somewhat unconvinced by Maladroit, (I notice most of this thread was written prior to its release) but otherwise classic all the way, esp.Pinkerton.

Si Carter (Si Carter), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic. I think RC writes well, his lyrics are always a little less throwaway than you first think. I really dug Maladroit, and not just because the 'Keep Fishin' video had Muppets in it. But it helped.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 March 2005 00:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I've always considered Rivers a reconstituted or repressed metal guy. Ok, maybe he's smarter than Mickey Mars, but the power chords, the pushy way in which he rams his adolescent miseries rams them down your craw with said power chords, reminds me of, I don't know, Slaughter or something.

I was a couple of years' too late for the Blue Album to have any fascination for me; "Pinkerton" has its moments; I really dug "Hash Pipe."

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 7 March 2005 00:10 (nineteen years ago) link

He is a big Kiss fan after all.

kate/baby loves headrub (papa november), Monday, 7 March 2005 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...

I remember reading an interview where Cuomo said that Dylan has had (overall) a rather negative influence on popular music. This from the man who made Pinkerton! (Not a horrible album, but the music and lyrics it's influenced...yuck.)

Cunga, Monday, 1 October 2007 05:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Ok, maybe he's smarter than Mickey Mars,

I fucking doubt that.

mulla atari, Monday, 1 October 2007 05:43 (sixteen years ago) link

i love weezer

http://dsf.pacounties.org/training/lib/training/muppets_and_weezer.jpg

chaki, Monday, 1 October 2007 05:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Weird to me is how they went from being just another jokey-alt band to suddenly being a revered and 'influential' group with 'Pinkerton' hailed as an antecedent to Emo...(most of my research is just mostly general conversation with kids in bands, but still...) I nearly fell over when I saw a bio on the group: River's Edge: The Weezer Story (I couldn't make this shit up.) I opened to the intro just to see what the fuck and sure enough the author is unhinged. He recounts how he discovers the group by getting a free cassette and listening to it in his car on the ride home and how he's completely blown away because here was a band who were combining the aggression of punk with the pleasing harmonies and hooks of pop -- and this had never been done before!

Like the Ramones never happened. Never mind the other three hundred bands we could list. If I ever end up in jail I might read this book.

smurfherder, Monday, 1 October 2007 05:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember back in the '90s they were pegged as "MTV's Pavement" and that was good enough for me. Trash.

mulla atari, Monday, 1 October 2007 05:55 (sixteen years ago) link

i see all those muppets but where's the band amirite

latebloomer, Monday, 1 October 2007 06:00 (sixteen years ago) link

weezer is so awesome

chaki, Monday, 1 October 2007 06:01 (sixteen years ago) link

chaki otm

max, Monday, 1 October 2007 06:02 (sixteen years ago) link

hating weezer is easy but loving them is SO MUCH EASIER

max, Monday, 1 October 2007 06:03 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't hate em

latebloomer, Monday, 1 October 2007 06:08 (sixteen years ago) link

creep

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I love the Blue Album, not much beyond that but a few singles. But the Blue Album is high on the list of my favorite albums from the 90s, just for the first two songs and "Only In Dreams" alone, not to mention the singles.

Euler, Monday, 1 October 2007 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link

only in dreams is fucking epic

chaki, Monday, 1 October 2007 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link

i like that buddy holly tune

max r, Monday, 1 October 2007 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Driving back late to my hotel after a really important night for my work, I put on the University of Pittsburgh college radio station and "Only In Dreams" came on. At that moment it became the Greatest Song Ever, the Platonic Idea of Epic. The final build-up and climax is pretty autosexual, but that's part of its greatness: I mean it is only in dreams.

Euler, Monday, 1 October 2007 17:18 (sixteen years ago) link

weezer were an amazing band who tragically died ten years ago.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Monday, 1 October 2007 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I like the quiet moments on Only In Dreams. The loud dynamic stumbles.

Cunga, Monday, 1 October 2007 22:26 (sixteen years ago) link

'death and destruction' is an underrated tune. it's as close as they came to the greatness of the blue/pinkerton era imo

6335, Monday, 1 October 2007 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Honestly, aren't C/D threads like this skewed towards people who cared enough to actually listen to a bands albums and therefore liked them in the first place? I only heard the radio singles and concluded 'Dud' long, long ago but that probably doesn't make it a fair judgment. Nevertheless, I won't lose any sleep over it.

Mr. Odd, Monday, 1 October 2007 23:35 (sixteen years ago) link

'death and destruction' is an underrated tune.

I-L-O-V-E-Y-O-U?

St3ve Go1db3rg, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 01:50 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...

Isn't the new single a pretty great Weezer song?

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link

chorus sounds great. hate the verse and the lyrics :(

6335, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Argh, I've been listening to / reading about Weezer after the weekend, and then this gets revived. Odd.

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.spinner.com/media/2008/04/weezer-300.jpg
Produced by Rick Rubin.

The record is being described as "experimental", and according to Cuomo, includes longer and non-traditional songs, TR-808 drum machines, synthesizers, Southern rap, baroque counterpoint, and band members other than Cuomo writing, singing, and switching instruments.

chaki, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link

out june 17th btw

chaki, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link

longer and non-traditional songs, TR-808 drum machines, synthesizers, Southern rap, baroque counterpoint, and band members other than Cuomo writing, singing, and switching instruments

They have a fever.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link

cover so funny

Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 20:32 (sixteen years ago) link

brian looks like federline

chaki, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The Greatest Man That Ever Lived

8-(_____________)

(that's a dropped jaw)

StanM, Thursday, 8 May 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link


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