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Tomorrow will be generally sunny despite a few afternoon clouds. Hot. High 91F. Winds W at 10 to 15 mph.

Chance of thundershowers in the evening.

(Generic forecast. There's always a chance of thunderstorms in the evening, all summer.)

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 29 August 2005 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm dreading winter already :/

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 29 August 2005 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Denver, Colorado: Denver was once so renowned for its pure
mountain air that tuberculosis victims traveled there for treatment. However, in 1985, Denver was under a "brown cloud" much of the time. Pollutants from motor vehicles, industry, and wood stoves clouded the skies and obscured the view of the Rocky Mountains that made the Mile High City a major tourist attraction. The city violated federal carbon monoxide exposure limits 33 days during the winter of 1985.
The public, as well as businesses and community leaders, demanded that something be done to bring clean, healthful air back to Denver. Responding to these concerns, the governor established the Denver Metro Air Quality Council. With technical support from EPA and the Colorado Health Department, the Council mobilized public and governmental action, worked with industries, civic groups, and the news media to help remove the area's brown cloud and clean its air. How did they do it?
- New legislation required use of oxygenated fuels during the
winter months to reduce cold weather carbon monoxide
emissions from gasoline engines. Automobile owners'
individual participation helped make this successful.
- The Denver schools switched from diesel fuels to compressed
natural gas in new school buses.
- The state avoided legislation that would have delayed
implementation of strict emission standards for wood stoves.
- Wood burning in the area was limited.
- The local electric utility replaced particulate-emitting
coal fires in powerhouse boilers with a mix of "clean"
natural gas and coal. The public bus company converted to
low-sulfur fuel during the high-pollution season, tested
methanol-fueled buses, and implemented an emissions
inspection and maintenance program for its vehicles.
- The public, including employees and shoppers, found ways to
drive fewer miles.

What did it all add up to? Carbon monoxide violations dropped
from thirty-three in 1985 to only three in 1990. Average daily
ozone (smog) levels for the ten highest days dropped
considerably. In June of 1990, the United States Conference of
Mayors called Denver "the most liveable city in the United
States."

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 29 August 2005 22:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey, my wife and I are flying to Denver in three days. Our daughter's in grad school there.

― M. V. (M.V.), Monday, 29 August 2005 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Denver skyline 2002:

http://ccc.atmos.colostate.edu/~hail/cool/polution/images/denver_smog2.jpg

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 29 August 2005 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

What is she studying?

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 29 August 2005 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link

In the last census, the Denver Metropolitan Area had a population of 1,984,889.

Since the area surrounding Denver is so flat, Denver has made suburban sprawl into an artform. Highlands Ranch is its masterpiece.

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 29 August 2005 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link

yay. I like denver, TOO. I like living right by the park with a view of downtown, and I like hearing the PEACOCKS at the zoo. I like the big sky and the weather is pretty nice. That's my current list.

All those other good things too -- DANIEL TIGER, THE MEXICAN RESTAURANT DISNEYLAND, BUFF BILL'S GRAVE, STUFF.

Oh, but I don't go to the suburbs because I don't like them.

― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Monday, 29 August 2005 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

What is she studying?

"Conflict Resolution," at DU. (Not surprising, since I'm is pretty good at conflict instigation.)

― M. V. (M.V.), Monday, 29 August 2005 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Conflict resolution as in International Diplomacy, or conflict resolution as in Social Work?

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 29 August 2005 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link

It's out of the Graduate School of International Studies that Madeleine Albright's father Josef Korbel founded, and that Condi (alas) got a degree from.

― M. V. (M.V.), Monday, 29 August 2005 23:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, actually that sounds exciting. (My dad was a poli sci prof.)

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 29 August 2005 23:32 (eighteen years ago) link

also, p.s, jerry, I don't think I've ever been to Ichabods! Is it one of the used places on Broadway? Although I don't expect you to remember street names.

― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Monday, 29 August 2005 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought it was grand! It's funny someone mentioned a brown building, I couldn't believe how brown Denver was when I went there, it kinda amazed me. So beautiful in the evenings, with the fading whiteblue complementary sky.

The Wrights are v.good, even better than the hype. Also they have a SWELL PAD.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link

i very nearly took a job working for a paper in rural colorado, about an hour away from DENVER. but i just couldn't do it. if the job market in mpls continues to totally lick butthole, i may think about it again.

i spend about a day in denver last march. it was ok, the downtown reminded me of minneapolis, actually! i had a few drinks in an awful bar with my dad.

― geoff (gcannon), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 00:30 (eighteen years ago) link

NO SKYWAYS IN DENVER.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 01:41 (eighteen years ago) link

wow, geoff, where was it? i'm imagining you living in WIGGINS

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 01:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I was chattin', with kelly, the other night, when I was drunk, about a restaurant I went to, in denver. I think we figured out that it was called "the delectable egg" because I woke up to a photo of it, on my computer screen.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 01:57 (eighteen years ago) link

It's 4:00 ET, It's the new flirting thread, because oops ruined the other one

― Yes, I have heard of pizza (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:11 (eighteen years ago) link

HOW FAR FROM CHICAGO TO DENVER, AS THE CROW FLIES?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:17 (eighteen years ago) link

1000 miles

― Yes, I have heard of pizza (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:19 (eighteen years ago) link

it is much nicer than detroit.
lots of really poorly run companies are located here like qwest, united, janus, invesco, etc...

the broncos are better than the lions but i still take pride in the absolutely pathetic performance the lions put on this evening.

― keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:19 (eighteen years ago) link

rjg, yep. the egg restaurant I haven't been to. I bet waking up to that picture brought back fond teenage egg memories.

― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm always trying to get my friends to go there but they aren't as excited about it as I am.

I used to live two or three blocks from Rodney's in the early 90s. I remember downing scotch there like 12 years ago with a buddy, and it was actually really disturbing and depressing to my then young mind. It was like, "is this what I have to look forward to? These people?"

Maybe less depressing than chugging Fat Tire at the Cherry Cricket tho. ("Is this who I am? Some fratboy?")

― Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:37 (eighteen years ago) link

sound slike you were bumming everyone out, it's probably much happier here now that you've gone.

― keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:43 (eighteen years ago) link

nice try, adam

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link

This thread isn't really about Denver, is it?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:47 (eighteen years ago) link

hahaha

xxxpost

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:50 (eighteen years ago) link

No, you all were having a grand time, keith!

The dynamic of 45 y/o chicks hanging on 60 year olds with Porsche keys conspicuously displayed might have thrown off my equilibrium. That or all the johnny walker.

expo

― Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:51 (eighteen years ago) link

p.s -- I don't flirt!!

and rodneys is the PLACE OF THE FUTURE! I'm gonna go drink whiskey and water with some old dudes asap.

― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link

kelly totally flirts - it's funny.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:54 (eighteen years ago) link

she tosses her mane of noodles around

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:54 (eighteen years ago) link

that's why my favorite internet emoticon is the one with the LIPS.

― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:54 (eighteen years ago) link

The dynamic of 45 y/o chicks hanging on 60 year olds with Porsche keys conspicuously displayed might have thrown off my equilibrium. That or all the johnny walker.

john forsythe and linda evans?

― keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link

HEY BOBBA-REE-BAH!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/Mandalion/wsc76.jpg

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 03:04 (eighteen years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/Mandalion/wsc91.jpg

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link

you're right, this thread isn't about denver

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link

that one camper looks so hot under that canoe. and the second picture is TOTALLY the part where Judy tells Angela that she has "No HAIR DOWN BEEELOWW!"

― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 03:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I love the Denver gang! And at the executive suite they treat you damn right.

I have the sleepaway camp trio on dvd.

― not sure about pickles (Jacqui Pickles), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 03:11 (eighteen years ago) link

oh, the third one! never seen that one before

― Yes, I have heard of pizza (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 03:13 (eighteen years ago) link

It's definitely the weak link of the trio.

― not sure about pickles (Jacqui Pickles), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 03:14 (eighteen years ago) link

executive suite! I forgot the name of my OWN APARTMENT. For a minute.

The second Sleepaway Camp was kind of my favorite. The fact that they could only afford 10 campers or so, Angela hating fornicators, etc.

― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 03:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I LIKE THAT SLUT, ALLY, WHO DOES IT WITH THAT GUY AND THEN SAYS 'HEY YOU DON'T HAVE AIDS OR NOTHIN' DO YA?'

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 03:53 (eighteen years ago) link

the first one is the best, though

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 03:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Sleepaway camp 2 is full of famous people's LESSER FAMOUS siblings. Like Pamela SPRINGSTEEN and Renee ESTEVEZ. I like it a lot for that reason.

― not sure about pickles (Jacqui Pickles), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 03:58 (eighteen years ago) link

keep the dream alive!

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 11:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I've been to the Delectable Egg! There was typical Brit tipping confusion.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 11:50 (eighteen years ago) link

do they only serve eggs ya think?

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 11:57 (eighteen years ago) link

They serve 'skillet'.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 12:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure they serve other stuff--I don't think I ate eggs, when I was 14/15, and I don't remember being too hungry

crosspost

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 12:02 (eighteen years ago) link

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