American Beauty - I'm a fucking dumbass

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the French film Time Out is yet another better take on this type of story.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

oh oh oh that's a good one too!

xpost

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Happiness is fucking BOLLOCKS.

Allyzay, Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

seconded.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha! I used to really like Happiness.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Happiness is just an unfunny Farrelly Brothers film crossed with the worst aspects of Vice.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link

All of that "cinema of misanthropy" stuff is just horrible, really.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Gear!, that is the best description of Happiness that I've ever read.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I blame the French. Watch Amateur!st get mad at me.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

the best shot during happiness is when PST comes over to LFB's place and there's this 60-90 second shot of him slowwwwwwwwwwwly leaning across the couch which she breaks with "This isn't going to work out"... haha, i laughed both times i saw it.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link

*a piece of paper blows in the wind*

Peter 'Family Guy' Griffin: Sometimes there is so much beauty in the world that I feel like I can't take it.

*cut to heaven*

God: What's wrong with you?!?! It's just a piece of paper! Do you know how complex the circulatory system is?!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

When is somebody going to mention Larry Clark?

Larry Clark.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Blowing my own head off is more appealing than watching Happiness ever, ever again.

Allyzay, Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

sadly accurate too, Nicole!

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

happiness >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lost in translation

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

>>>>>>>>>>>>> american beauty

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

"Bully" was pretty good, i thought.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I remember someone accusing me of not being able to handle "true" filmmaking because I didn't like Happiness.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd like to see it. What was the one with james woods? Was that good?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link

welcome to the dollhouse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happiness >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> storytelling

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I see a trend there.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, "Happiness" is fucking garbage. "The Ice Storm" is pretty good but even patchier (and much shallower) than AB.

frankiemachine, Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

gygax, what's your take on JOHN WATERS?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't stand fucking lame ass yuppie guilt movies where a character has to die in some shocking manner to pay for his/his family's sins.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I LOVE JW!!!

Seriously, can't get enough. He's in town a lot, did you know? He goes shopping in the tenderloin for old books 1-2x a year.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I have yet to see a celebrity in SF.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

But then I'm hardly ever there now.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I like him too, btw.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

i love larry clark.

dan (dan), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Surely you mean "i love the films of larry clark"

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Or is mutual?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I used to live next to Benjamin Bratt (1860 PAGE STREET) when he was dating Julia Roberts.
I used to see Joan Chen all the time.
I saw Huey Lewis in a yoghurt aisle in Marin.
I waited on Yasmin Bleeth pre-liquid cocaine bust.

All very B-List compared to my weekly Drew Barrymore run-ins in LA.

xpost: Better to like the films of Larry Clark then the photos.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

...i like the photos...

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link

a yoghurt aisle????

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Woodlands Market in Ross (near Sean Penn's house). It's about as granola as possible.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I like granola now!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, Happiness is another movie I tolerated when I saw it (and maybe even admired Solondz's envelope-pushing) but now I think it just kinda blows. If the movie had been about any one of those characters, separately, it might've been interesting. But as an ensemble it mostly comes off like, "YOU THOUGHT THIS GUY WAS FUCKED UP?? WAIT'LL YOU SEE THIS OTHER GUY!!"

I liked Bully. Mostly it demonstrates the banality of evil more intensely than any other film I've seen. It was actually really affecting.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link

jaymc, what are three of your favourite movies?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Of all-time?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Today anyway. You can change your mind.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, you don't have to answer. Maybe post to this thread!

Sum up your personality with five movies

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link

(xp)
I dunno. Questions like that always make me extremely self-conscious ("But do I really still like that movie? Gosh, I haven't even seen it in five years. Maybe that last movie I saw! Oh, but do I get to call it a favorite yet? Or do I need to see it again? Or do I just need to dwell on it more? ET FUCKING CETERA.) So I'm just going to give you what it says on my Friendster profile:

Domestic realism (All the Real Girls, Secrets and Lies, You Can Count on Me), surrealism (Mulholland Dr, Spirited Away), mixes of both (Buffalo 66), comedies (Annie Hall, Waiting for Guffman), classic thrillers (Vertigo, Rosemary's Baby)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link

john waters does a lot of work at some editing place in berkeley actually. I saw him on shattuck avenue once. I don't like any of his films at all.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link

y'all seen KEN PARK?

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

(I actually had the Lukas Moodysson Together and The Ice Storm filed under "domestic realism" and then took them out to make room for the "classic thrillers" category.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

(the "classic thrillers" category = oh no! people are gonna think i haven't seen any movies before 10 years ago!)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Stop worrying about this stuff so much!

I am very pleased that someone else likes Buffalo '66.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link

buffallo '66 is amazing!

also, the brown bunny is on it's way to the US apparently; but he re-edited it.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I love Buffalo '66.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link


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