The Original Black Sabbath:1970 -1978 POLL

torn between, uh, the wizard/supernaut/symptom of the universe/children of the grave

You Moka me crazy.

Yeah I love it but I'd say Moka is undervaluing it and Bill is overvaluing it a bit. Not that there's anything wrong with either opinion. It's a good record and has a lot of songs I dearly love. But it's a tiny minority (as Moka inferred) that will prefer it to the first 6.

Personally, I feel strongly about all Sabbath albums through Born Again. There's not a worthwhile entry after that until Dehumanizer and the new Heaven & Hell.

What's your opinion on Eternal Idol and Headless Cross?

I voted for "Call Me"... I mean "Children of the Grave."

Sorry again for the 'only those with injuries in their brains' thing, I didn't chose my words wisely. It didn't sound that harsh of an opinion in my head but the more I read it the more I realize how it could've come off as extremely offensive.

Already repeated throughout thread a couple of times but the only assumption I wanted to make was that their first 6 albums are better by general consensus and that few people would choose NSD and Technical Ecstasy over the rest. I wasn't aware you were one of those few fans and I apologize, once again, for my offense to your kind upthread.

What's your opinion on Eternal Idol and Headless Cross?

― Duke, Friday, October 9, 2009 2:11 PM (1 hour ago)

I think there are good riffs on those discs, but no entire songs that rule. It's too bad.

Well, by metal I meant hard rock... I think.

"Changes" is hardly hard rock. :)

Really, I like a lot of Black Sabbath, also some of the darker stuff. But "Changes" is such a beautiful song it still stands in a league of its own here. Not because it's "atypical", but because it's great.

Voted st because it's so sludgy and dark and it has that church bell and the first time I ever heard Ozzy yell "Oh god please help me!" I was instantly ROTFL in joy.

^^^that track scared the shit outta me when i was thirteen-years-old.

Supernaut but my deliberations were similar to Jordan's.

>What's your opinion on Eternal Idol and Headless Cross?

I think there are good riffs on those discs, but no entire songs that rule. It's too bad.

Thanks. I was tempted to pick these up a while back. Allmusic has it that they are fine albums. I couldn't bring myself to do it.

" and I apologize, once again, for my offense to your kind upthread."

Accepted, I understand what you were getting at. And yes, it is correct, those last two Ozzy albums are generally considered, rightly or wrongly, the red headed step-children of his time with the band.

didn't j0hnD say he liked Never Say Day best of all Sab albums somewhere 'round these here parts? i'd like to see him argue that point further, tbh.

I dont know if he said it was his favorite but he did a pretty funny flowchart diagram where he made it clear that it was at least in the discussion.

right, that was it.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

lol at 5-way tie for second.

Check out the new Sabbath compilation. No "Supernaut," and not a single track from Sabotage. Sacrilege!

http://heavymetalmessenger.com/new-black-sabbath-iron-man-the-best-of-coming-next-month

I am confused as to exactly what the Sabbath camp is doing here.

I was a little more harsh on this thread than I believe was necessary, in retrospect.

haw, really, nothing from Sabotage? I'm pretty new to deep Sabbath fandom, but I think that is my fave album by them.

speaking of 'em, saw that the "classic albums" doc for paranoid is streaming on netflix now. will watch soon!

Just saw that recently, it's great. You get to hear the untreated vocals on "Planet Caravan"

I just got a boot that has "Planet Caravan" without the Leslie effect. It's kinda neat to hear.

speaking of 'em, saw that the "classic albums" doc for paranoid is streaming on netflix now. will watch soon!

I didn't even know this existed! I'm not on Netflix but I'll probably just buy the dvd.

That new comp looks, erm, superfluous...

The Paranoid Classic Albums thing is excellent. Seriously thorough. The Planet Caravan part is awesome.

I havent seen a bad one in that series, by the way.

How did Lord of This World only get one vote?
Also: I'm chained to Spotify at work and they don't have anything by BSabbath with Ozzy. Thumbs down.

Ozzy era stuff is apparently pretty locked down so Sharon and Co. can continue selling you CD's of songs you already have in about 10 formats.

We in the UK have the full Ozzy years catalogue, with the exception of Vol 4, for some reason.

Vol. 4 had a strange producer credit, i dont remember the exact story, but i think their manager was listed as producer (even though he did nothing). There was later significant litigation between him and the band. That may have something to do with it-i could be wildly off though, I'm just guessing.

it used to be there, but has been pulled. The others are there in the recent re-issue formats.

I bought a Vol 4 t-shirt the other day, which I was happy to get since I understand there are merchandising rights issues as well.

It must be a lot of laughs having to deal with all this.

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