Grant McLennan - RIP

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Yes, the double-disk "1978-1990." Items like this make me smile:

"Bye Bye Pride"
Cairns is a lazy, small town full of boats and cane fields. It is also unbearably hot. An old army officer once said to me that the heat took away his pride. He then sucked loudly on the straw in his gin and headed out to the first hole. I was his caddy so I followed him.
—G.M.

Taylor, Sunday, 7 May 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Who is D.Boon? Presumably I ought to check out..

Mippy (Mippy), Sunday, 7 May 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

D. Boon was the guitarist and lead singer for the Minutemen. They were excellent.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 7 May 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

D. Boon was such a unique talent. No one was like him, and no one ever will be like him. Grant was somehow more special, though. What he did, many people did, but few did it quite as well as he did (if that makes sense). This hits hard and hurts.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Sunday, 7 May 2006 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I've also always loved the liner notes to '78-'90, some of my favorite notes ever.

Hammer the Hammer
Too many late nights in St Kilda, Melbourne. An incomplete meditation on loneliness and violence, sometimes mistakenly thought to be about drugs. Recorded during a lull in the Birthday Party's "Junkyard" session. This was the last song we cut before moving to England. -GM

Bachelor Kisses
We came back from Christmas in New York having lost our record company somewhere along the way. I wrote this in immigration having been refused entry to the United Kingdom. The first person who heard the song was my sister. She said that Marianne Faithful should sing it. -GM

The Wrong Road
We lived in London for almost six years. I shared a dark flat with a painter and then a comedian. The painter was obsessed with grey. The comedian loved Tommy Cooper. This song fits somwhere between these two things. -GM

Cattle and Cane
Written in summer on a borrowed guitar in a Paddington bedroom, London. The other rooms were occupied by unconscious friends. The rhythm struck me as strange, the mood as beautiful and sad. The song came easily, was recorded quickly and still haunts me. -GM

Dusty in Here
This is a song about my father who died when I was four. -GM

Second-Hand Furniture
I had a dream about a divorced man who looked into a shop window and saw his old bed. I think it was snowing. The catalogue of objects was an ad lib. For some reason this song is popular in Stockholm. -GM

Don't Call Me Gone
I've always liked country music. This is a typical mix of pathos and sentimentality in the tradition of George Jones and Tammy Wynette. It comes close to pastiche but the Go Betweens seldom genre hop so this is what it is. -GM

TRG (TRG), Sunday, 7 May 2006 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Really sad news. They meant a lot to me. RIP.

Bidfurd (Bidfurd), Sunday, 7 May 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

A collection of videos here:

http://karimamir.blogspot.com/2006/05/rip-grant-mclennan-youtube-tribute.html

TRG (TRG), Sunday, 7 May 2006 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Is there any info on cause of death? This is really really sad news....

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 7 May 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Growing up in Perth in the 1980s had it's advantages.

Happily, east coast bands making a trek over to the UK (and back again) invariably stopped in Perth for a show or two, often in addition to any national tour they might happen to be on. Excellent news for fans of the Go-Betweens (and The Triffids).

Consequently, I was lucky enough to see them many, many times and they never disappointed. Memories of Grant plucking out the notes of Cattle & Cane under a single spotlight at the Shenton Park Hotel (also RIP) or of his and Amanda Brown's soaring harmonies in Bye Bye Pride or Streets of Your Town will be with me forever. His passing is such a terrible loss.

RIP G W McLennan

Theodore, Sunday, 7 May 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link


A report here yielded this bit of information, which i hadn't known:

"The early line-up of the band that included Morrison, Forster, McLennan and his then partner Amanda Brown fragmented amid acrimony, but the four were reunited in Sydney several weeks ago where, said Morrison, they were able to resolve some of their differences."

PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Sunday, 7 May 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Gosh. I hope, at least, they were all able to put any longstanding stuff that had affected them on a personal level to bed at last.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 May 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

a tribute from a blogger: I turn to hold you, you're gone... fingers let go, I'm gone...

DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 7 May 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost- yeah, my sense was that time helped. In the last couple years Lindy and Amanda (as well as Vickers) have posted to the GBs message board, which suggests some civility. I still wish they'd involved Lindy after they reformed (she was willing).

TRG (TRG), Sunday, 7 May 2006 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I've read posts by Morrison, Brown, and ex-bassist Robert Vickers too. It seems like most of the acrimony was b/w McLennan and Morrison, who from the beginning developed an instant dislike, motivated (according to the David Nichols bio) by McLennan's jealousy: he resented Morrison for taking his best friend Robert away from them.

Most definitely they had a low-rent Aussie Rumours-type psychodrama goin' on.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 7 May 2006 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Steve Kilbey has added a new and very moving post talking more about Grant and the first Jack Frost album. That was actually what I listened to this morning instead of anything Go-Betweens of him solo -- I think maybe the fact that it's more of a mediated effort makes it easier to listen to now, less of a sting of loss. And it is, much like Steve says, a great album -- Steve's own work, I think, constantly grows better out of his many collaborations, and I think he's right to think this one of his own best efforts based on who he was working with at the time. It's a striking and wonderful album and would be on its own without any context. But Grant had so much more, didn't he? It beggars easy description.

A strange day. I've had to concentrate on many other things, and I'm glad of that, but still...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 May 2006 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link

How woudl you describe the Jack Frost album(s) in relation to the rest of Grant's work, Ned?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 7 May 2006 23:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Needless to say, if anyone wants to YSI a copy, I'd be most grateful :)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 7 May 2006 23:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmm, I'm trying to remember if I wrote the AMG reviews or not!

*checks for the first album*

Ah, there ya go. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 May 2006 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

And reading through that review, I stand by every word. It's absolutely wonderful and I'm kinda pleased to realize that Kilbey feels the same way about "Providence" that I do.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 May 2006 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Looks like I reviewed Snow Job. The AMG: allowing me to avoid repeating myself since 1998. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 May 2006 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Fuck this is awful :( :( :(

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Monday, 8 May 2006 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link

You sold me, Ned. I just ordered a used copy of the first Jack Frost album.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 8 May 2006 00:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I just ordered the Jack Frost album too.

Jeff K (jeff k), Monday, 8 May 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

The first Jack Frost is a unique record (never heard their second effort) and I envy all of you who will be istening to it for the first time.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 8 May 2006 01:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Indeed, you'll find it very striking, surprisingly dark and powerful. Listening to it this morning, I was moved at how modern it sounded, and not simply due to subject matter (given the original Gulf War context). I think Grant was pushing himself to try and embrace a sound where Steve was trying to embrace a style, and in both cases the result was 'what if we create 'modern rock' in a way that doesn't exist yet?' It stands the test of time without consciously trying to, and that's a fine legacy to leave, one of many.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 May 2006 01:15 (seventeen years ago) link

"Finding You" was the surprise summer hit in Austria last year -- went top ten.

This is sad news -- my first exposure to the band was "Dusty in Here" when it was new; it stopped me cold, as few songs ever do.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 8 May 2006 04:00 (seventeen years ago) link

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Grant and the Go-Betweens become much more popular posthumously, sort of like what happened with Nick Drake.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 8 May 2006 04:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i really would get unreasonably miffed if cattle and cane started turning up in car ads

electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Monday, 8 May 2006 04:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, don't want anyone hearing it who doesn't deserve to . . .

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 8 May 2006 04:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sure you're not alone with that sentiment. I'd just love to see their music be discovered by people 10, 20 years from now. I'd be unreasonably pleased if some sensitive 16 year old was listening to Cattle and Cain in 2016.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 8 May 2006 04:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Sad news. RIP

daavid (daavid), Monday, 8 May 2006 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Just heard this news last night. Devastating. My memories of the two live shows I saw in London and Brighton are infinitely more precious now, and they were pretty precious before :(

Archel (Archel), Monday, 8 May 2006 07:22 (seventeen years ago) link

This has totally knocked me for six. A good companion on my headphones for years. Farewell friend.

NickB (NickB), Monday, 8 May 2006 07:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone texted me this news last night but I haven't been able to believe it till now. I'm stunned. Grant (and Robert) kept an awful lot of us going throughout the 80s and actually made some of us think there might be some worth in that old guitar/bass/drums shit after all. I don't know, I'm kind of speechless. Bye Bye Grant.

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Monday, 8 May 2006 08:24 (seventeen years ago) link

And I sincerely hope that a day of mourning is planned in Glasgow!

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Monday, 8 May 2006 08:26 (seventeen years ago) link

there's some very touching comments from Robert Forster in this article

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19058067-16947,00.html

electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Monday, 8 May 2006 08:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Sad news. I guess this is the end of the second phase of Go-Betweens then..

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 8 May 2006 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

geez .. that sucks. a lot.

damn.

dave's good arm (facsimile) (dave225.3), Monday, 8 May 2006 11:15 (seventeen years ago) link

If someone can point me to a place to post a few MP3s, I have a recording I made of the last 1/2 of the 7th House show in Pontiac (mentioned a few times on this thread) that I'll put up somewhere.

I may put a few things up on Dime this week too, if there aren't already a ton of others.

dave's good arm (facsimile) (dave225.3), Monday, 8 May 2006 11:55 (seventeen years ago) link

heart breaking news.

cw (cww), Monday, 8 May 2006 12:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Two days later and I'm still finding it hard to believe. The odd thing is I spent much of Sat before hearing the news talking about the GBs and listening to them; I was hanging out with a friend I met a few years ago through the GBs email list. Dave, were you also at the 7th House gig?

TRG (TRG), Monday, 8 May 2006 12:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw the Go-Betweens twice on what may have been their first US tour. New York City, right around New Years Eve 83/84, @ CBGB and Dunceteria, liked them enough to go back the second time and follow the rest of their career on albums that just seemed to get better and better. The one thing I really remember from those early gigs was how young and fresh-faced the bandmembers looked, esp. Robert Forster who appeared to be about 15 years old. Reading Grant McLennan's obituary 22 years later I couldn't help noticing he was two months younger than me. It's especially unsettling to lose a peer, but what a body of work he left us. Thank you and RIP.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 8 May 2006 12:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd love if you posted some of that Pontiac show.... I hear that yousendit is the way to go, only change the file names to .txt to avoid the site's screening functions.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 8 May 2006 12:42 (seventeen years ago) link

TRG - The Pontiac show was the day after the CLE show where we all met up.. I got to the 7th House late though, so I sat in the back through the show & had to drive back to Columbus afterward - so I didn't stick around.

Here's Cattle & Cane from the 7th House.
http://download.yousendit.com/2401DE992BD823E4


Mods - my understanding of the policy is that anything we have recorded ourselves is OK to post here. This is technically an ambient recording of an hour of my life, with some music going on in the background. If that's taboo, please remove the link & email me.

dave's good arm (facsimile) (dave225.3), Monday, 8 May 2006 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

No worries, Dave. I can't imagine anyone complaining about it in this case.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks Ned. Here's the rest* of the 7th house... (30Mb)

http://download.yousendit.com/DBC560E0147F6B36

(*that I have)

dave's good arm (facsimile) (dave225.3), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:08 (seventeen years ago) link

The tribute thread continues and grows ever more moving, and yet more well-known names are starting to appear (Luke Haines posted briefly). I like this post from a Brisbane writer, Noel Mengel:

As some of the readers here know I have been writing about The Go-Betweens for many years now in my work as a magazine editor and later as the music writer at The Courier-Mail in Brisbane.
I've been privileged to know Grant and Robert and to be present on the Sunday after their last Tivoli show in Brisbane, asking the questions for the DVD documentary section of That Striped Sunlight Sound. One of the many Go-Betweens moments I will always cherish. Here is a personal piece I wrote for this morning's edition:

I can't remember the first time I met Grant McLennan.
It might have been in about 1981 at the Basement recording studios in Roma St, Brisbane, where The Go-Betweens were recording.
I will never forget the last time we met, on Wednesday, at a film screening I hosted for the new Neil Young concert film Heart of Gold.
Introducing the film, I told my one paltry Neil anecdote: that I had interviewed him on the phone, found him sweet and kind, but on the afternoon of his Brisbane concert I actually walked past him in Edward St and, in shock, neglected my chance to introduce myself.
Grant chipped in: ``You should have.''
After the screening, I missed my chance to say to Grant what I had intended to: that after a year of listening I still stood by my five-star review of The Go-Betweens' Oceans Apart album, that it sounds to me as strong as any album I have heard in years.
I should have.
In numerous conversations and interviews I conducted with Grant, he was unfailingly enthusiastic about the arts, film, books, painting, music.
In his student years he wrote perceptive film reviews.
He was always mentioning that he had been to some exhibition or other, some book he had found, or would talk about two of his great loves; the music of Bob Dylan and the music of The Monkees.
Loving Dylan and The Monkees was not a paradox in his world, and it said something of the kind of songwriter he became, with his love of precise yet poetic language and sharp, memorable melodies.
If good reviews were dollars Grant McLennan would have been a millionaire. But his ability to write so many great songs, so many enduring songs, so many songs that cut so deep with so many people, is testament to his achievement, to the kind of life he admired and lived.
An artist's life.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:14 (seventeen years ago) link

David Nichols of the Cannanes and Ian Haug of Powderfinger/Far Out Corporation have also posted too. But of course it's hardly just about famous folks -- the many stories from fans or people who knew him as a good guy around town are all overwhelming taken in toto.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks Dave. I was up front at the 7th House which would explain why I missed you that night. Remember meeting you at the CLE gig though (I've a recording of that one).

Reading back over the liner notes I posted above I paused at this one because it seems so similar to Grant's fate:
Dusty in Here
This is a song about my father who died when I was four. -GM

A friend just passed this along, it's short but good --
http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/story/0,20797,19061372-5003421,00.html

TRG (TRG), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha Ned, you beat me to it!

TRG (TRG), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link


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