Melody Maker's review of Kula Shaker's "K"

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"Because the world needs new songs. Not the same old songs, but new ones. In the same style, but with new melodies. After a while, you get sick of humming the old songs, and you need new songs to hum."

But why not new styles as well? What's the difference?

max r, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Nothing wrong with new styles as long as the contain hummable songs. The new styles of the past 20 have been too much about rhythm and repetition though, not enough about melody and harmony.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Plus entirely new styles are not needed. One should rather mix the styles already existing, creating new conglomerations of already known stylistic elements.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Eh? Don't you think your criteria for what makes a song enjoyable or worthwhile is bit limited, Mr Grongo?

max r, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link

It's the only criteria that mattered until 1920 in classical music, and until the late 80s in popular music.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link

That's nonsense. Classical composers were always experimenting with different orchestral arrangements, new instruments, etc...
And there's been experimentation with production techniques in pop since at least the late 60s.

max r, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I was going to send this thread around to some friends b/c of the interesting review but then the thread got derailed. still derailed i see.

Billy Pilgrim, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 00:45 (sixteen years ago) link

That's nonsense. Classical composers were always experimenting with different orchestral arrangements, new instruments, etc...
And there's been experimentation with production techniques in pop since at least the late 60s.

But melodies were always an important part of 60s pop and 19 century classical music, even if there were other elements too the melody was always there at the bottom.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 09:09 (sixteen years ago) link

geir do you like harry warren?

Pashmina, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 10:43 (sixteen years ago) link

i regret reviving this thread.

fucking geir.

-- That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, September 24, 2007 2:48 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 10:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Votes for imagebombing?

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 10:47 (sixteen years ago) link

there should be a 'killfile last 100 posts' function

Just got offed, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 10:48 (sixteen years ago) link

ilm has been silent for 17 minutes, as the LBZC plots its next move

Just got offed, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/PotKettle_small.jpg

roffle roffle, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 11:14 (sixteen years ago) link

I couldn't find a .jpg of three pots and one kettle, sorry.

roffle roffle, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 11:15 (sixteen years ago) link

TS mr idée fixe vs the holy trinity of lazy, adolescent snark.

(ha, xposts)

Pashmina, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 11:20 (sixteen years ago) link

That looks like a Yello video that never was.

NickB, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 11:24 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Personally I think their comeback album is indeed better than any of their two 90s albums. They have stripped away all of the "indie" elements and gone fully fledged hippie-pop with quite a hint of 70s softrock/pomp pop. Which fits them greatly.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 01:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I like "Tattva."

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 02:28 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqncFetwku0

Yeah, they sucked

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 23:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm happy to say that KulaShaker never graced my stereo - I thought they were bollocks.

this DG guy OTM

DG, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 23:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Mr Snrub OTM 2 posts ago

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 23:30 (sixteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

I've just been informed by that porridge-faced wanker, Simon Mayo,

lol

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:44 (six years ago) link

still basically feel that -- from this distance in time, and his value as a naysayer* notwithstanding -- kulkarni said NO to britpop in a very britpop way: the same one-note grab-you-by-the-lapels bellow

*his deep value was always as a yaysayer, to all kinds of things not britpop

mark s, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link

best melody maker cheerleader for hip hop, metal and R&B. But I did love his angry polemics to Britpop

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link

i know you do -- i'm just saying with a bit of distance the angry polemics are less distinguishable from what's being polemicised against than they were at the time

mark s, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:27 (six years ago) link

that is quite astute

#TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:29 (six years ago) link

you should write about music!!!

#TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:30 (six years ago) link

perhaps the 90s were a good time in general to grab lapels and bellow, utterly confident in the righteousness of whatever it is you were bellowing. they strike me as a time of plenty, where one didn't have to second-guess oneself because Everything Was Turning Out OK, especially in The West

this is only a vague notion I have, though, and I'm willing to be disabused

#TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:48 (six years ago) link

i am slightly astute sometimes but actually it's someone else's insight

mark s, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link

you should write about music!!!

:)

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:05 (six years ago) link

this wasn't a bad album really. cute in a way

Badgers (dog latin), Thursday, 18 January 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link

six years pass...

Seems appropriate. RIP.

piscesx, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 12:30 (two months ago) link


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