Primal Scream.

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When computers came out, he [Andrew Innes] got one straight away and learnt how to work them. Oasis call him "Brains".

I also got a ZX Spectrum and learned to load Manic Miner. Unless he had a mainframe that was the size of a room--in which case, kudos.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 10:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I looked for a picture of David Rappaport in full-on Mani mode, but found nothing, except a lady who can tell it's Tizer when her eyes are shut.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 10:27 (eighteen years ago) link

have you got any drugs?

25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link

surely the biggest "eh?" moment in that article was the reference to him being 41 years old!

reclusive hero (reclusive hero), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Wikipedia says he was born in June 1964. Who knew. I thought he was about 56.

everything, Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

New album Beautiful Future out on July 21st. Produced by Bjorn out of Peter Bjorn and John, who says: "It's much more pop and kraut than earlier, so it fits well with me. It sounds a bit like Alan Vega and Suicide."

It should at least be better than Riot City Blues, then.

Bocken Social Scene, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link

It sounds a bit like Alan Vega and Suicide

Who'd have thocht it?

Tom D., Tuesday, 20 May 2008 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link

That can't be hard, to be fair.

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, fair's fair, since Bobby influenced Suicide in the first place when they saw him put his hand too close to the bunsen burner in chemistry class and he screeched and stamped his foot rhythmically.

Bobby also wrote the original lyrics to their most famous tune, "Frank Skerrett Teardrop."

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Is RCB actually their least-liked (I would say worst, but that doesn't really seem to be the right word to use when describing the Scream) album? I've not actually listened to the second album in a long time, but it at least has I'm Losing More Than I'll Ever Have on it. Give Out has its moments too. But I listened to RCB once and I've never felt any need to go near it again (even for a pound in Fopp).

I didn't know they were playing at Meltdown either, with the MC5 apparently.

Bocken Social Scene, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Bobby gave MC5 their name of course. He originally suggested they call themselves the Jack McLaughlin 5, in honour of the host of STV's popular "Thingummyjig" show (the self-styled "Laird o' Coocaddens"); the name was shortened over the years to MC5

Tom D., Tuesday, 20 May 2008 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Little Death is quite good, as I recall. Other than that, total bollocks. AMG rates it higher than Evil Heat. Hmmm. Evil Heat is just 'meh'. RCB is proper shit.

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I love the idea of a "Mc5."

Don't forget that the Velvets were inspired by a poem wee Boab wrote in his second year primary school class though he later got the strap when the teacher found out he'd nicked it from Francie and Josie:

"Ye've nivver lived unless ye've bin oan the Velvet Underground"

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

they saw him put his hand too close to the bunsen burner in chemistry class and he screeched and stamped his foot rhythmically.

Snicker.

"Give Out but Don't Give Up" is the only one I regularly go back to. It will be interesting to hear what they do with the young folk.

felicity, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Make Primal Scream History

sonnyboy, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link

i like the 2nd primals album a lot. its better than rcb, sfg and dont...

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://www.myfreedownload.co.uk/primalscream

Urban Guerilla. Primal Scream are now officially 100% embarrassing.

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 13 June 2008 13:07 (fifteen years ago) link

doesn't guerrilla have, erm, two "r"s? or are SFA wrong?

Just got offed, Friday, 13 June 2008 13:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe Hawkwind spelled it that way, that's obviously where Blobby stole it from

Tom D., Friday, 13 June 2008 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Results 1 - 10 of about 14,800,000 for guerrilla. (0.19 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 9,600,000 for guerilla. (0.22 seconds)

Just got offed, Friday, 13 June 2008 13:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean it's clearly "Guerrilla"; do things like "La Guere" or "Roger Guerero" ring true? Exactly.

Just got offed, Friday, 13 June 2008 13:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Looks wrong somehow with two "R"s, though.

I'd d/l it for the lulz but I don't fancy giving them my email address.

Pashmina, Friday, 13 June 2008 13:16 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.last.fm/music/Hawkwind/_/Urban+Guerilla

Is it a cover of this? That wd be totally lulzy if so.

Pashmina, Friday, 13 June 2008 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.myfreedownload.co.uk/primalscream

Urban Guerilla. Primal Scream are now officially 100% embarrassing.

-- Scik Mouthy, Friday, 13 June 2008 13:07 (10 hours ago) Link

Haven't they been officially embarrassing for a couple of years now?

Lolpez, Friday, 13 June 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

heh. heh. heh. heh.

banriquit, Friday, 13 June 2008 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

THE RECORD, TITLED ’BEAUTIFUL FUTURE’, IS OUT JULY 21ST, AND FEATURES TRACKS PRODUCED BY, AMONGST OTHERS, BJORN YTTLING (PETER, BJORN AND JOHN) AND PAUL EPWORTH (BLOC PARTY).

?!??!?!! WHY WHY WHY

stephen, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Here's a Hawkwind version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXDbLXwQCzo
although it seems they have a few versions?

Damn.

Chelvis, Saturday, 14 June 2008 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Damn that Hawkwind track kicks ass.

Unfortunately it seems ripe for a Scream cover, so I bet that is what's going on. I say that as someone who really likes PS about 60% of the time. But that other 40%? Who would've thought it possible to have such a love/hate relationship with the output of a single band, as I and many others seem to with them. But as much as I dig tracks up to and including much of Evil Heat, I was really hoping that after the latest gratuitous round of trad (fuck fuck fuck their faux Stones blooze rock, just fucking piss on it) that they'd move past the tired MC5, neo-white-panther schtick and get back to the whole drugs/beats/killer grooves method of course (I'll take that in the angry electro-rock and/or the sunny hedonism variety, thanks).

Well that's that, then. Nice knowing you Bobby. I've given you many chances, and at times you've rewarded my patience -- but nobody ever really took you seriously as a freedom-fighter, and what started out as a mildly endearing phase in your cycle of cartoonish poses has become obnoxious and depressing. It was fun while it lasted, but I'm officially off the Scream bus.

Pillbox, Saturday, 14 June 2008 05:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyone else going to the neo and non-neo-White Panther knees-up at the RFH tonight? Anyone want to laugh at me for going? I am looking forward to it.

I do not like the mockney cockney accent on Urban Guerrilla, or the reference to suicide bombers.

Does anyone know who is doing MC5 vocals these days?

PJ Miller, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 07:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Does anyone know who is doing MC5 vocals these days?

Wayne Kramer was on vocal duties mostly when I saw them in Camden a couple of years back. There were also guest spots with Mark Arm and that women from the Bellrays.

Discordian, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 09:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Thank you.

PJ Miller, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 11:21 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks for posting this Nick, though i'm a week late. the last album was so bad that i will have a wait and see approach to Beautiful Future. always thought a new album by these guys would be an event, but not so much anymore.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

MC5 use different lineups in different countries/shows - the Australian tour had Arm and Evan Dando as singers and Deniz Tek on 2nd gtr.

energy flash gordon, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link

i bought the last album but never actually listened to it in full... just the random track on shuffle here and there.

stephen, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

thoughts on Beautiful Future?

won't be able to hear until tomorrow.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 05:51 (fifteen years ago) link

It's the worst album that I've heard all year. Tired, lazy, cliched, half-finished, risible, boring. A clutch of tiny little ideas stretched to breaking point. (And I really liked "Country Girl", so this comes as a big disappointment.)

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 09:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I have no desire to hear this at all.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 09:29 (fifteen years ago) link

the only version thats been kicking around supposedly on mp3 version has been tracks with a 30 second loop stretching the songs out to full length. Is the full version around now?

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link

i am still -- insanely, perhaps -- holding out some hope for this.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I maintain the only really decent thing of Primal Scream is Screamadelica. End of story.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:01 (fifteen years ago) link

*Bimble mumbles under his breath* *talentless git who just happened to be good friends with Alan McGee* cough cough

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

My brane still says XTRMNTR is awesome and the best thing they've ever done, but I've not got it out in ages so it might not hold up now.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Apart from two or three songs, it doesn't. Screamadelica does, though.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:17 (fifteen years ago) link

"Can't go back, I can't go back."

It says something when Gillespie is reduced to ripping off old BMX Bandits lyrics.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahahah! Wow, man. I barely know BMX Bandits. That's an interesting gap in my musical knowledge I should probably try to correct.

Just like recently when I finally tried to listen to some Fuzzbox songs aside from their track on C86. I mean you know...the girl band, right? We've Got A Fuzzbox And We're Gonna Use It. Man, those were the days.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link

XTRMNTR is still awesome.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm with nate: it's less awesome than it was in the late nineties. it's the best thing they did, by far, but i listened to it a few months ago (and posted somewhere about it: maybe on this very thread?) and thought, hmm, this is not the ball-crushing behemoth i remember.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I have no desire to hear this at all.

me neither but i still rep for some of Evil Heat

blueski, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link

XTRMNTR only came out in Jan/Feb 2000.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:50 (fifteen years ago) link


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