French films are shit. Porquoi?

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I got fro Xmas E. Rohmer's "Contes Moraux" DVD boxset - excellent stuff..

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Monday, 12 January 2004 09:24 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Despite myself I rep Gilbery Adair, if only for his old IoS reviews. The film he's written for Bertolucci is fanfuckingtastic too. Here is his list of the ten best French films ever:

http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/film/features/story.jsp?story=483695

The last of these, 'Bob Le Flambeur,' was released in 1956! It's either the last film in the pre-war spirit or the first new wave film. I haven't seen all of these by any means, but he's dead-on about the Renoir -- it's an absolute corker.

Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 09:59 (twenty years ago) link

seven months pass...
I wish there was a rivette thread and that I had seen all of his films. as part of the cordiale classics series 'celine & julie go boating' will be showing in some UK cinemas during october. you shd probably go see it.

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 25 September 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link

hi cozen!

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 25 September 2004 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I know who you even are.

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 25 September 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

do you like rivette, adam?

there's a long, not brilliant essay on him in the current sight & sound by david thomson.

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 25 September 2004 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I have only seen "Va Savoir" and "L'Amour Fou". I would like to see more, though.

Sight and Sound is so expensive here!

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 25 September 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

it's a shame really tht the essay isn't up to thomson's usual v. high standard. it doesn't seem like writers I love often get to let loose on subjects I love (he devotes most of his critique to 'celine & julie...') and tht this is a disappointment.

however it does have a wonderful quote by rivette on the abnormality of the film-making process: 'it is normal not to make films.'

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 25 September 2004 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha! That is gold.

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 25 September 2004 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link

The onl Rivette I've seen is La Belle Noiseuse, I think. Loved it, though. And it IS a great exploration of artistic process; Mark M completely wrong upthread.

Reed Moore (diamond), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

that's showing too, I think. is it from 1991?

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link

www.imdb.com

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's around 4 hrs long. Lots of long takes of nothing but actual sketching, paint being applied to canvas, etc. But really quite mesmerizing for that, I thought.

Reed Moore (diamond), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:33 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
revive!

just seen my first rivette film (and his new film) 'histoire de marie et julien', and, at just over two hours, guess its more of a 'normal' length for him - its all about the clock people!

anyone else see it?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 17 October 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Three Truffaut films on BBC2 over the next week:

Tuesday Night:
400 Blows
- BBC2 Wed 20 Oct, 12:15 am

Wednesday Night:
Shoot The Pianist
- BBC2 Thu 21 Oct, 12:10 am

Thursday Night:
The Woman Next Door
- BBC2 Fri 22 Oct, 12:15 am

koogs (koogs), Monday, 18 October 2004 08:24 (nineteen years ago) link

um, is 400 blows the one with the snowball fight that is later referenced in another of his films? or was that cocteau?

koogs (koogs), Monday, 18 October 2004 08:27 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Yesterday I went to see L'Atalante. I love the part when Juliette is looking into the shop window and you can see the reflection of the moving dolls around her. It brought to mind the opening scenes with the wedding procession and the special happiness and nostalgia captured by hand-held cameras and crackly sped-up film, especially the part when the couple moves across the space and you can see the fabric of her dress up close as she moves down left out of the camera's range. I think the film is what William Gass would call blue.

youn, Saturday, 25 March 2006 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link

"The onl Rivette I've seen is La Belle Noiseuse, I think. Loved it, though. And it IS a great exploration of artistic process; Mark M completely wrong upthread.
-- Reed Moore (electrifyingmoj...), September 25th, 2004.

"

wtf?it's a great movie mainly because emmanuelle bear (or how ever you spell it)one of the all time goregeous women, is naked for almost the entire movie.how can u forgot?!

Made for maddam, Saturday, 25 March 2006 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link

goregeous

Jena (JenaP), Saturday, 25 March 2006 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanx Jena, what would i do without you.

Made for maddam, Saturday, 25 March 2006 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link

This man would shake his head sadly upon reading the thread title:

http://www.weltchronik.de/ws/bio/r/renoirJ/rj01979a-RenoirJean-18940915b-19790212d.jpg

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 26 March 2006 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The special part was the connection between the moving dolls and the couple themselves - the dreamlife - and Paris - in a shop window! Oh, and the dreams of severed couples!

youn, Sunday, 26 March 2006 00:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I just watched L'Atalante recently - wonderful film.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 26 March 2006 00:12 (eighteen years ago) link

The dream sequence always scared the shit out of me.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 26 March 2006 00:26 (eighteen years ago) link

"I just watched L'Atalante recently - wonderful film"

Try and catch "Espíritu de la colmena, El " or - The spirit of the beehive, by Victor Erice - a spanish masterpiece from the 70's that takes a lot of influence from Jean Vigo, also by Tereence Mallick - (Erice also made 3 films in 30 years or so like mallick), it's a gothic tale about life,death and nature from the innocent eyes of 2 kids, beatifully shot and very delicate in direction, it's a unique masterpiece.

Made for maddame, Sunday, 26 March 2006 00:30 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
http://www.bam.org/film/series.aspx?id=90

Which ones? I'm thinking Hotel du Nord, Boudu Saved From Drowning, Les COusins, and Pierrot Le Fou - if I'm lucky.

youn (youn), Saturday, 29 July 2006 01:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Will we ever see R1 DVDs of Celine et Julie vont en bateau and La Maman et la putain? Those are my favorite French films.
Thanks to this thread for reminding me I still need to see La Belle noiseuse.

Marmot 4-Tay: Hold these goddamn chickens! (marmotwolof), Saturday, 29 July 2006 02:18 (seventeen years ago) link

(RE:The BAM series) Loulou is terrific. Depardieu and Huppert made a good team.

Picnics and Pixie Stix (Charles McCain), Saturday, 29 July 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

OK i should move to NYC..
I haven't seen a lot of these, Pierrot le Fou and Grand Illusion are 100% classic. I don't think I would like Eustache at all.

The Clockmaker of St. Paul
I recommend seeing this, Tavernier is great at working with actors and I think he's often overlooked here in the US. Also Série Noire.

dar1a g (daria g), Saturday, 29 July 2006 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think I would like Eustache at all.

Why not? Too talky?

Marmot 4-Tay: I'll sip from his well without hesitation. (marmotwolof), Saturday, 29 July 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

A Bout de Souffle is undoubtedly the best. The most ahead of its time film ever. People counting how many people they have had sex with on their fingers is not something usually seen in films in 1959. Plus Jean Seberg's accent provides loads of vocal hooks... actually most of the time it just makes me laugh, its really comedic and naive. I'll probably be in her situation one day when I have a year abroad.

JTS (JTS), Saturday, 29 July 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Eustache - Too angsty? Probably that. too talky.

dar1a g (daria g), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

"Bodu saved from drowning" bored the shit out of me. i'm sure it is good "of its time".

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

actually it wasn't so much that it was boring more that it's totally broad humour fell flat for me (i'd guess it would for most current viewers) whereas Vigo's "Zero De Conduit" (which was the first half of a double bill i saw with bodu) was stunningly fresh, vital & funny.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

hey, Jeanne Moreau was 80 yesterday! What a gal.

http://daily.greencine.com/archives/005352.html

I saw her in Mademoiselle recently, having a ball as a demon-woman.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 24 January 2008 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link

also, Andre Techine's '80s AIDS movie finally opens in NY next week.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 25 January 2008 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link

emmanuelle devos is lights out

Tracer Hand, Friday, 25 January 2008 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

i wouldn't mind attending a conference in devos, if you know what i am getting at

Tracer Hand, Friday, 25 January 2008 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

eau non vous di-int

Dr Morbius, Friday, 25 January 2008 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link

lol

s1ocki, Friday, 25 January 2008 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Moreau seemed to think she was playing Bette Davis in The Star in that last Ozon movie.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 25 January 2008 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

I think I will have to go see the Eustache films at FIAF on Tuesday.

youn, Sunday, 13 April 2008 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link

I just saw "The Last Mistress" -- directly translated it should be "An Old Mistress" as in "an old story" but eh

I thought it was wonderful - a "small" film in a way but I never realized Asia Argento was such an actress! Christ almighty she was like an animal. I've known people like that.

My favorite thing may have been the way it was a period piece, set in the height of 1830s Parisian society, yet you still got the slightly damp, dingy feel that must have pervaded even the poshest drawing rooms in those days

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 April 2008 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean I'm just so accustomed to any period film feeling like every prop cost a million dollars, that every drop of sunlight fills a room with a luxurious glow, that all is powdered and pampered and smelling of leather and roses, when actually even the nobility of those days lived in some rather rough and drafty places and never washed, despite their rococo brocade

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 April 2008 23:14 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

La France mostly sucks.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 14 July 2008 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

i just saw that movie The Last Mistress which i really liked

Surmounter, Monday, 14 July 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm sure Eric H will, too.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 14 July 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link

What can I say? Surmounter and I share a love for pillowy male lips.

Eric H., Monday, 14 July 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Me too, but the hairy femme "lip" closeups...

Dr Morbius, Monday, 14 July 2008 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link

That's where the Sex is Comedy thing comes in.

Eric H., Monday, 14 July 2008 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link


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