I think yr misinterpreting DJ Mens, souk.
Anyway, I don't even have a problem with relatively well-off kids adopting hobo lifestyles. Kids are inherently pretentious, always looking for some way to be cool and a place to fit in. They often do some silly shit in sorting all that out, but as long as their hearts are in the right place, I'm basically okay with whatever. Plus I don't give spare change to crusty street kids on general principle.
― That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link
No. This is not about Anarchism or Socialism as a passing phase. I know plenty of people, of all classes, who are in this for life. Don't confuse it for a six-month student pose. If you love UK punk, you must understand this, it is absolutely part of the story and applies to the early death/doom scene as well. Reading "Please Kill Me", what struck me was how scared (and incredulous) NY punks were by The Clash. Their kind of leftism was part of the scenery in the UK in the 70's, and they couldn't understand it at all.
― Soukesian, Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Agree with all that. But the existence of leftist lifers doesn't disprove the existence of those for whom is IS a passing phase. Lots of kids of all backgrounds go through a "radical" phase that they eventually outgrow. Rich kids do it, poor kids do it, and kids in the middle do it. Same is true of the lifers. They come from a variety of economic/social backgrounds.
― That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Friday, 9 October 2009 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Hmmm. I'm thinking about the folks who don't wash for years on end and get weird tattoos on their necks when they're high on mushrooms. It's not a passing phase. Even if they grow out of it it is something that's part of them wherever they go to next. It's often too intense to simply walk away from. I think that's what Soukesian is talking about too. It was a passing phase for me to hang out with them that's for sure, but then the Stretcheads couldn't keep performing for ever.
― everything, Friday, 9 October 2009 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link
I actually think the "lifers" are the majority, in the UK at least. And, actually, if your 'economic background" leaves you hungry or disadvantaged, I don't think it's a coincidence that you might be statistically more likely to think that there might be something wrong with that.
Hey, did I mention that I get free health care?
― Soukesian, Friday, 9 October 2009 00:18 (fourteen years ago) link
"You can, but the process is longer, more painful, and infinitely more drawn out than it seems like it's going to be when you're 17."
i said, people went local and inward.
― scott seward, Friday, 9 October 2009 00:19 (fourteen years ago) link
But we didn't give up.
― Soukesian, Friday, 9 October 2009 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link
i didn't say that either. people found other more productive ways to change things. if change is what they were truly after. and sometimes this simply meant a spiritual change. not giving up really. maybe giving in a little sometimes.
― scott seward, Friday, 9 October 2009 00:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Brit far-left dig in their heels more, for sure. It's reflexive, may be less considered, but a lot more joyous than the American far-left. At least in my limited experience.
― bendy, Friday, 9 October 2009 01:00 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sap/2018/10/10/how-punk-rock-can-revitalize-human-resources
― mookieproof, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link
if it wasn't before, it is now
― Neil S, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
Dis-rupt!
― saddest kamancheh (bendy), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link
Dressed in multicolored pants, combat boots and spiked leather bracelets, SAP’s Chief Human Resources Officer, Stefan Ries proudly strut onto the stage of the MGM Park Theater in Las Vegas to the strains of “Bring Me to Life” by Evanesence.Ries was here to pump up of thousands of HR professional in attendance for the annual SAP SuccessConnect event, but a more important mission statement soon emerged, emblazoned across his black tee shirt: “HR Punks.”“The heart of the human revolution is us,” said Ries. “The old days of HR are over. Today onward we need to revolutionize and the best people who can do this are HR punks.”
Ries was here to pump up of thousands of HR professional in attendance for the annual SAP SuccessConnect event, but a more important mission statement soon emerged, emblazoned across his black tee shirt: “HR Punks.”
“The heart of the human revolution is us,” said Ries. “The old days of HR are over. Today onward we need to revolutionize and the best people who can do this are HR punks.”
https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5bbde1134bbe6f7684a6744d/960x0.jpg?fit=scale
― hey, nifty clam! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link
imagine how excruciatingly embarrassing it would be to be one of this guy's children
oh god i'm so depressed
― Leon Carrotsky (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link
have you considered cheering yourself up by strapping on some spiked leather bracelets and strutting proudly to the strains of 'bring me to life' by evanesence?
― hey, nifty clam! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link
imagine getting fired by some cunt in a clown costume
― Leon Carrotsky (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link
punke
― imago, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W8h4W6IBGc
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
"Glad to see you go go go go goodbye/ Glad to see you go go go go goodbye"
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
Struggling to think of a single figure from the punk era who wouldn't have been an HR nightmare. Strummer maybe.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
broke: punkwoke: steampunkbespoke: hrpunk
― hey, nifty clam! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link
(xp) Glen Matlock obv.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link
skrewdriver were good at following orders iirc
― hey, nifty clam! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link
pogo in the boardroom!
(but only when your stocks go up)
― mark s, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
Line Manager Sensible
― Leon Carrotsky (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
http://www.cvltnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Bad-Brains-1979-.jpg
true punk HR
― mookieproof, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link
"We're moving the HR Department, the general opinion among the management team is that the ground floor should be used for more front facing departments and the 1st floor for finance and upper management, do you or your team have any objections?"
"I Don't Wanna Go Down to the Basement"
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link
how perry como can revitalize human resources.
― how's life, Thursday, 11 October 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
Strummer would go AWOL to Europe for weeks to hide from his boss, but at least he never stuck up for his subordinates when they were being bullied incessantly in the workplace
― My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Thursday, 11 October 2018 17:14 (five years ago) link
that is a hilarious forbes article
― niels, Friday, 12 October 2018 09:01 (five years ago) link
old punker fite - https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/03/johnny-rotten-and-marky-ramone-fight/
― yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 8 March 2019 04:28 (five years ago) link
Yes
― nathom, Friday, 8 March 2019 15:20 (five years ago) link
Legit beef or staged?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 8 March 2019 15:41 (five years ago) link
what a surprise I'm on Team Everybody but John fucking Lydon
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 8 March 2019 15:58 (five years ago) link
I don't think it was staged, Marky looked genuinely mad
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:09 (five years ago) link
Assume Lydon just likes to insult people, especially turning it on whilst in Johnny Rotten character and, much like a Don Rickles audience, you’re expected to play along.
― Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:13 (five years ago) link
Johnny Rotten really looks like a potato.
― ☮ (peace, man), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:23 (five years ago) link
Eh...I guess you would not expect any different a result. One thing I always got that was Lydon blamed the nyc punk rock junkies for hooking Sid bad onto smack, so it was not unexpected for him to be hostile to an old nyc punk. Marky also threw some shade towards in the MC5 in that exchange too.
― earlnash, Saturday, 9 March 2019 10:17 (five years ago) link
Marky obv. from the apolitical it's only rock 'n' roll school but Lydon is talking garbage, of course.
― The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 March 2019 10:20 (five years ago) link
Before the PiL show last year there was a $50 meet n greet, I assume it was just a few minutes of personalized abuse from Lydon.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 9 March 2019 11:01 (five years ago) link
Marky is an oaf, Lydon is a clown
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 9 March 2019 19:27 (five years ago) link
And oh I don’t lol why
― Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 March 2019 19:47 (five years ago) link
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 9 March 2019 23:31 (five years ago) link
TBH kinda was hoping Marky would get up and deck Rotten that whole time
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 10 March 2019 00:00 (five years ago) link
He doesn't want to risk his wig falling off
― kurt schwitterz, Sunday, 10 March 2019 00:04 (five years ago) link
And oh I don’t lol why― curmudgeon
― curmudgeon
― Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 March 2019 00:31 (five years ago) link
Punk's not dead, I just find it difficult to care about it in 2019.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 10 March 2019 07:46 (five years ago) link
really sad to watch them argue about the things that happened between 1976-1981
john lydon is a fucking idiot these days and has been a has been for a very long time, but he can never erase the importance of his old bands.
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 07:53 (five years ago) link
I don't know, John always seems to be playing a character in public. I've heard tell that he's much more approachable in person. God help you if you're a clueless member of the press, though.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 10 March 2019 15:35 (five years ago) link