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4-finger gestures? Yeah, that keeps it simple. How far will they go before they just put two fucking buttons on the thing?

Isn't the MacPro 15" in?

haha yes thank u cold meds/stupid pills

4-finger swipe is totally ridiculous. i can already do two-finger right click but i don't really like to use it.

are they phasing the 17" mbp out? i can't even figure out how to get to the spec page for it.

expln!

― the valves of houston (gbx)

expln what?

are they phasing the 17" mbp out? i can't even figure out how to get to the spec page for it.

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apparently not

NONE of the new MacBooks has FireWire 400 and only the MBP has Firewire 800! Wow

I wouldn't buy a 17" right now…

the firewire thing is INSANE. aren't they marketing this shit to ppl with video cameras? and fancy new hi-def video cameras??

RIP black macbook, you piece of shit

if i'm not mistaken, they're primarily marketing the macbook to high school and college students, most of whom probably use a cellphone to do video, unless they're doing it gung-ho, in which case they have an iMac or a Mac Pro.

i mean, they may have access to these as editing stations (like the kids at my high school)

ya but surely enough videographers/dps/video dudes use them either as primary editing stations or remote capturing/viewing jammies

does final cut run on a macbook?

i used a PB 12" as a primary editing station, using FC Pro, fwiw

maybe steve doesn't think a macbook is worthy of FC pro?

maybe steve doesn't think a macbook is worthy of FC pro?

There's still Final Cut Express... and that requires FW.

I have mixed feelings about this. I wonder if they'll add it soon enough on later models, like what happened with the very first iBook (the "toilet seat" ones). FW800-only on the MBP isn't a big deal. I'd rather have that than a FW400 port.

fwiw, screamin' deals on yesterday's MBPs in the refurb section - firewirez for days!

http://store.apple.com/us/product/FB488LL/A

refurb macbook air w/SSD £999 (RRP £1799) - that's some saving

The scarier thing is that by taking FW out of their #1 selling computer (well, they took out FW syncing in iPods a while back as well) they're gradually phasing it out... Then again the majority of PC laptops probably still have FW, right?

They do?

I don't think firewire is an issue for 90% of Macbook customers. People go for the USB hard drive because it is cheaper, rather than the firewire drive because it has better performance. Most other peripherals are USB, if you need firewire for cameras, audio interfaces, fast disks then you must be a pro so please fork over an extra $500.

i would say that most PC laptops do not have firewire. Sony and Samsung being about the only brands I can think of where it has been nearly universal.

Woah that MacBook Air is kinda tempting

looks like they're gone. £899 for the 1.6 no-SSD model.

Now I get to spend 2 grand instead of 1500 bux on a new computer. I'll be doing a hard disk upgrade via newegg though. Also, switching between the two video cards in the higher end model requires a logout. Two videocards should be cool with that general purpose computing on GPU stuff in Snow Leopard.

Are the MBPros in stores yet? Y/N?

Y

WTF, 4 drunk apple employee friends of mine LIED to me.

64GB SSD airs still available for £999 on my mac refurb store

Shame about the lack of firewire on the Macbook, its mightly convenient just for the target disk mode. Nice to be able to power stuff like external hard drives too, but I guess the vast majority of Macbook buyers aren't really doing this stuff. For those talking about the only Firewire 800, it is backwards compatible with an adapter...

Besides giving me another reason to curse my lack of a new 17" for work, which through the magic of multinational product sourcing might be in fucking Hungary of all places right now, I don't really care for these updates. I will buy a new laptop when Apple adds an option for 4GB or more on the Macbook Air -- a HSDPA radio would be nice too -- and until they do I will lug my 15" around with its dying battery and worn keyboard.

You know, you can replace the battery...

My audio interface is firewire 400, looks like I'll have to spring for the MacBook Pro when it's time to get a new computer and get something like this. Or get a new audio interface (the problem is all the good ones are firewire).

My audio interface is firewire 400, looks like I'll have to spring for the MacBook Pro when it's time to get a new computer and get something like this. Or get a new audio interface (the problem is all the good ones are firewire).

FireWire 800 is backwards-compatible with 400. Just pick up a cheap adapter.

Somewhere around here is where I point out that it's usually better to wait for the first minor revision of a new product.

Kthxguy for ripping off Australians because our dollar has dipped. Seriously fuck your price rise because a brother is gunna get a PC laptop with Linux instead now of spending a MacTax on the fact that I'm not American.

how long until there's an Apple TV that can do blu-ray?!?

Eternity?

Jobs doesn't want you renting Blu-Ray, he wants you downloading HD content from iTunes.

yeah but i bought a sony bravia and i want to make full use of my $2000 and see 1080p content

i mean i guess the other question is when can i download 1080p movies from itunes

damn waited too long on the clearance Macs, they're all gone now

appletv is a major dud

isjohngruberajerk.com

yep.net

Painful watching this my-leak-source-was-better-than-yours snobbery as if any of it is "journalism". Guy never publicly asks anyone for comment. Just heckles and waits for someone else to report. He's mad about app store but hasn't once asked Apple for comment, yet gets haughty about "journalism"? Ha.

also runs blurb ads for products he has slated roundly

regarding the asking for comment thing, i don't think there's anything wrong with not wanting to have a relationship with the subject you're covering. don't see the problem with running ads for products you've given bad reviews to, either. wouldn't it smell weird if he only ran ads for products he gave good reviews to?

asking for comment isn't having a relationship, it's basic journo ethics and also makes for better stories. Sure if he wants to be a blogger that's fine, but he's slagging all the rumour blogs for sloppy journalism.

I agree about the ads but he writes little puff blurbs for them too. It's upfront, but it's still a bit close for comfort. Only running ads for products you approve of is every outlet's dream btw. It's how The Deck works, for one thing. Gruber also runs Deck ads.

Also he's forever asking Apple insiders for tips and hunting for tidbits, like Monday's MacBook leaks. There's a relationship there, it's just not upfront.

still like his linked list miles above any other mac news feed tho

regarding the asking for comment thing, i don't think there's anything wrong with not wanting to have a relationship with the subject you're covering

riiiiight. so the westminster correspondent for a newspaper shouldn't ever go near westminster, or talk to MPs?

the crime correspondent should never speak to the cops?

even traditional commentators and columnists -- good ones -- don't just sit there waiting for other people to gather the information; they're in there finding out information for themselves. as stet says, it's really simple: if arseholes like this want to be taken seriously as "journalists", they need to do some "journalism", not some "fannying about".

if they don't want to do that -- fine! nobody's making them. but in that case STFU about journalism etc.

Somewhere around here is where I point out that it's usually better to wait for the first minor revision of a new product.

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Very true. the first intel MBPs were dogged with all kinds of problems and I am glad I waited a couple of months before I got mine. As it is I can wait as 1) education discount and dollar price when I get to pittsburgh 2) apple care on the current one doesn't run out till May 3) Aperture slowness, lack of RAM when running XP in parallels and slight smudges on the screen aside my current one still does much of what I want, even when I am done with it. 4) MWSF.