Matias Aguayo

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I'm super excited about hearing this. I don't guess this will have any of the overt sexiness of Closer Musik?

Jacob Sanders, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

A different kind of sexiness, less pervy and more hot impromptu party.

I find it really interesting how his sound has evolved (even taking into account that Dirk Leyers probably did most (?) of the music for Closer Musik), there's a real erm "logical progression" with each release, to the point where the vewry live-sounding tribal rhythms on this sound totally natural and comfortable.

It's kinda roughly comparable to the difference between Luciano circa Blind Behaviour and Luciano now, though I think Matias has pushed further than Luciano does on Tribute to the Sun towards a kind of blissed out live party jam feel.

Tim F, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link

'are you really lost' is a record i def regret not voting for in the 00s poll

btw tim, did you ever post your ballot somewhere?

the burrprint squee (deej), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsxV_qNVdec

i like his appearance in this better than the new record, tbh. and i love matias.

my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 23:53 (fourteen years ago) link

also, the BumBumBox parties look so fun. i want one in west oakland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-Qmaf4t4wE

this one is from sao paulo...

my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 23:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i love water on my skin, i love to lean against the wind
i love to walk alone at night, i love the city lights
'cos i'm lonely but i'm not the only, 2, 3...
you don't know me - sssh/

I'll never tire of this.

jed_, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link

'are you really lost' is a record i def regret not voting for in the 00s poll

^^ Me too, though I'd have to examine to see whether it definitely would have made it (e.g. do I like it more or less than Rhythm & Sound's w/the artists?). I don't want to post my ballot because I'm ashamed of how wrong I got it. Never try to list the 100 best records of the decade in one hour.

Tim F, Thursday, 8 October 2009 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

haha mine is totally 'wrong' i mean i voted for monster magnet ! but i think a wrong all-over-the-place list is way more fun anyway

the burrprint squee (deej), Thursday, 8 October 2009 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link

f**K an 00's polls in 2009 anyway.

fndgo, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

can't wait to hear this! For me, the older Aguayo stuff is all about the polyrhythms and the sounds he uses for his beats. Have not heard the new stuff aside from the youtubes in this thread. I like the random video game-esque themes popping up in tracks this year. You'd think it'd be stale, but it sounds pretty fresh to these ears. That Fabric line-up looks great!!

t (tricky), Thursday, 8 October 2009 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link

TS: Minimal (original mix) vs. Minimal (DJ Koze remix)

the original kills the Koze mix, in my opinion, but i've seen other people who prefer the Koze mix. they're wrong though, right?

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

orignaaaal for me

t (tricky), Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link

love both but the OG is so damn greasy in all the best ways

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

def the original "minimal"

lex pretend, Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link

can i just

http://www.residentadvisor.net/review-view.aspx?id=6257

"Bo Jack," in fact, has more in common with baile funk than house or techno, utilizing cheap synthesizers and drum machines to craft a tune as catchy Bow Wow Wow's "I Want Candy"—the song he borrows his vocal melody from.

nagl, RA

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

especially since the title spells it right out

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

eh?

fndgo, Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I feel like I shouldn't have to say this, but Bow Wow Wow's "I Want Candy" is a cover of the Strangeloves' "I Want Candy", which is a note for note rip of one of Bo Diddley's signiture tunes, "Bo Diddley". Aguayo's tune is called "Bo Jack", as in he's jacking themes from Bo Diddley. The RA writer looks rather myopic in his ignorance of this.

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Especially since the Bo Diddley beat is one of the most basic building blocks of post-WWII pop music.

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

ok, well I didn't get it either, sorry. I guess I have to go back to having an encylopeadic knowledge of knowing stuff about music (or face the disdain of some internet guy) school.

I don't expect anything much from a site which sees fit to employ ******** anyway, most of their other reviewers seem to be sourced from blogs, and it's not like they're making any pretensions towards publishing a book or anything.

fndgo, Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Naw, don't get me wrong, I'm not begrudging for not knowing that, just the reviewer, so sorry if I came off as condescending toward you. You aren't the one purporting to be an authority on anything.

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

While we're having a discussion about Matias Aguayo's thefts, where did he get the vocal melody for Walter Neff? It sounds so familiar, i'm certain it's ripped from another song.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

For me, the older Aguayo stuff is all about the polyrhythms and the sounds he uses for his beats.

You will like the new album.

Tim F, Thursday, 8 October 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link

First of All, The Koze remix of Minimal destroys the original, which is very good, but it's no Koze remix.

Rollerskate is great, I entirely fail to see how it's not colourful or disco-tinged.

I thought Are You Really Lost was, in a word, good, but not much more than that (I think the problem is I find his sound design to be a bit more on the... dry side, maybe?), it seems Matias has really injected his music with a lot of personality and flavour over the last few years, onto what's already some quality musical aptitude, though, so I wouldn't be surprised if this new album is amazing.

EDB, Friday, 9 October 2009 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link

But the Koze mix just sounds like a generic dance track with all the spice taken out in favor of mixability and homogeny. Not one of Koze's best efforts.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 9 October 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

The Koze mix is nice enough on it's own terms but it takes out the swanee whistles which is indefensible IMO.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 October 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I can't abide the Koze mix: there's something about it that just sounds wrong and makes it really difficult to listen to.

eazy e street band (c sharp major), Friday, 9 October 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i love water on my skin, i love to lean against the wind
i love to walk alone at night, i love the city lights
'cos i'm lonely but i'm not the only, 2, 3...
you don't know me - sssh/

I'll never tire of this.

OTM! That song is such a thrill. I think it might be my favorite Kompakt single, period.

Also, After Love far surpasses Are You Really Lost. Does anyone really think otherwise? Looking forward to the new one anyway.

For anyone who missed it, there's a lovely little Closer Musik live set from the 2001 Mutek festival here.

lou, Friday, 9 October 2009 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Kind of shocked to see so little discussion of Walter Neff on this thread. Best thing he's ever done solo if you ask me.

(Or maybe Pitaya Frenesi with Rebolledo, though that's not "solo" of course)

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Friday, 9 October 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link

agree about walter neff. so fabulous it never gets tired.

stirmonster, Friday, 9 October 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

judgement on new lp currently torn between amazing bumping grooves vs too many comedy voices

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 08:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i'll prob end up filing it alongside mungolian jet set

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 08:56 (fourteen years ago) link

a/k/a one of the best dance releases of the year??

Tim F, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:01 (fourteen years ago) link

ha no, in that the amazing sounds battle with the bits that make me flinch and i end up not going back to it to sort out which are which

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:03 (fourteen years ago) link

best dance release of year sooo omar-s for me, and i think the new redshape may end up alongside it

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:04 (fourteen years ago) link

oh and black meteoric star!!! yes.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean if we're talking house/techno end not funky/dubstep/wvs.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:04 (fourteen years ago) link

srsly this aguayo album could be so much better if the amount of "spooky" voices was halved or possibly quartered, that fluttering synth marimba melody at the end of "desde rusia" is pretty irresistible

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:07 (fourteen years ago) link

they're a lot better when they actually break into a proper vocal chant as on "ritmo juárez" rather than doing that constant sub-beatboxing shite

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link

haven't heard this yet but lex totally otm about the MJS record

on a top secret challops mission in contraristan (The Reverend), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:17 (fourteen years ago) link

The MJS vocals kind of split between awful and intrusive and annoying (Could You Be Loved, Milano Model) and perfect for the record (Creepy, Ocean 0304).

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:20 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I'm really enjoying this on first listen - I don't hear the vocals as "comedy voices" at all and certainly not in the Mungolian Jet Set way.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Sunday, 15 November 2009 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link

anyone go to fabric on saturday?

djh, Sunday, 15 November 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

they're a lot better when they actually break into a proper vocal chant as on "ritmo juárez" rather than doing that constant sub-beatboxing shite

― lex pretend, Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:08 AM (1 month ago)

Beatboxing is sub-Ay Ay Ay shite imo

throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

sat 12th december
ALLEZ-ALLEZ PRESENTS
MATIAS AGUAYO
SHUMI (KOMPAKT)
CARGO, LONDON

Tannenbaum Schmidt, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link

enjoying this record a lot i must say. dew dew dew dew dew dew deeewwww deeeewwww

Roz, Friday, 4 December 2009 07:07 (fourteen years ago) link

It's essentially acapella house music, isn't it? I like this record best when there are no instruments involved at all, just the sound of voices imitating the clicks and snaps and detuning pling plong noises you'd treat as standard in minimal. It feeds perfectly into my argument upthread about Aguayo totally getting the inherent silliness and ridiculousness of even the most po-faced European techno.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Friday, 4 December 2009 10:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I like this a lot too. One of the most refreshing records I've heard in a while.

J4mi3 H4rl3y (Snowballing), Friday, 4 December 2009 12:00 (fourteen years ago) link

like this a lot but up there with Are you really lost and After Love? Not quite sure.

Pedro Paramore (jim), Friday, 4 December 2009 12:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't really think I've given this a fair shake yet but up to now... hasn't really clicked like I would have expected, am a bit on the fence :/

fndgo, Saturday, 5 December 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link


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