Have you ever dressed in drag?

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I am male and I haven't dressed in drag, but I would like to.

Unisom beeitchs. (Matt P), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link

One halloween in college I shaved my everything, did my hair up nice, and wore a leather bustier, garters, and heels. Funny thing is, I looked good. Unsettlingly good, according to several friends both male and female alike.

I wrote my girlfriend at the time a couple years ago looking for pictures, but she couldn't find any. They'll turn in a box one day, and then I will share.

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I was a cheerleader for the powderpuff game senior year.

my future wife has to love talking about the ninja turtles (los blue jeans), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 00:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Seems easier for a guy to do a convincing lady than a lady to do a convincing guy, don't you think? This always seemed unfair to me.

existential eggs (Abbott), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 01:56 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe the ladies are so convincing you don't even notice

steamed hams (harbl), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 01:57 (fourteen years ago) link

i once dressed in drag (dress, wig, makeup, large purse full of sex toys) to perform maggie estep's "sex goddess of the western hemisphere" to a full bar

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 05:20 (fourteen years ago) link

maggie estep

OH SHIT I'd forgotten this person's entire existence until just now.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 06:04 (fourteen years ago) link

They'll turn in a box one day, and then I will share you political ambitions will be shattered...

a gift from your mind in the form of the perfect beat (snoball), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 09:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I was convincing enough to pull a gay lad who shrieked when he groped my "bulge" and pulled out a sock.

...and the wizard blew his horn (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:46 (fourteen years ago) link

These days I just look like some mad german Hawkwind roadie...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2219/2168095871_1f966b97ff.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2414/2168095877_39cc27cfc5.jpg

...and the wizard blew his horn (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:47 (fourteen years ago) link

So at lol college somehow I was persuaded to go to a Rocky Horror showing in the full getup, due to my remarkable resemblance to Tim Curry...

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v313/49/40/761935322/n761935322_3912071_8499.jpg

this must be what FAIL is really like (ledge), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 12:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Rocky Horror with Gary Numan as Frank...

a gift from your mind in the form of the perfect beat (snoball), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link

i think there's a big difference between a dude wearing lady clothes and full-on drag tbh. i've worn makeup & wigs & dresses all at the same time but it doesn't feel right to call what i did 'drag'

elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link

That's true enough only if you consider trans-sexuals to be "in drag"

Otherwise, what *is* drag?

Mark G, Thursday, 8 October 2009 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link

what drag queens (kings) do?

as a distinct species from transvestites, transgenders, & transsexuals.

elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 8 October 2009 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, 'drag' to me has connotations of parody and pantomime, which distinguishes it from 'cross-dressing'.

emil.y, Thursday, 8 October 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, look! I found those pictures!

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/fishyfishy.jpg

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Saturday, 10 October 2009 06:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, 'drag' to me has connotations of parody and pantomime

I see what you're getting at, but you make it sound like blackface. It's neither parody nor pantomime. I think you mean camp.

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Saturday, 10 October 2009 07:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Ledge, I want to fuck your manpussy. You are gorgeous.

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Saturday, 10 October 2009 07:04 (fourteen years ago) link

omg Kate, A+++ !

StanM, Saturday, 10 October 2009 07:22 (fourteen years ago) link

A bit butch for my tastes, but ok.

;)

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Saturday, 10 October 2009 07:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, 'drag' to me has connotations of parody and pantomime

I see what you're getting at, but you make it sound like blackface. It's neither parody nor pantomime. I think you mean camp.

Uh, I dunno. I don't tend to associate pantomimes with blackface. I do associate them with men dressed as women and women dressed as boys, in a way that has elements of comedy. Which 'drag', to me, always does.

emil.y, Saturday, 10 October 2009 12:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I think drag queen and drag king acts always involve a certain amount of exaggerating stereotypical modes of gendered behaviour, but it doesn't necesarily have to be done as comedy.

Anyway, you shouldn't take the word "drag" in the poll question too seriously. I'm not asking if you've ever done a proper drag queen/king act, merely if you've ever dressed fully as the other gender.

Tuomas, Saturday, 10 October 2009 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link

xp to kenan, o_O

things you never thought you'd read

surfing on hokusine waves (ledge), Saturday, 10 October 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

emil.y: I should clarify that when I say "you make it sound like blackface" I do not in any way want to invoke the mighty ILX instant-thread-derail tactic of calling someone racist, or even to morally equate the two things. I think I just balked at the word "parody," which makes it sound less affectionate than I believe it is. I feel like... hmm... how can I put it. The expression is primarily of womanhood, of a strong, prominent female side, and genuine female identification. Perhaps the difference is that "drag" is done as theater, is performed, and transvestitism is lived in.

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Saturday, 10 October 2009 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link

ledge: Sorry.

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Saturday, 10 October 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

See, I think the problem is that although I appreciate that (a lot of) drag tends to be done with affection, and yes, as a way to express some kind of identification with womanhood, it says absolutely nothing to me about my experiences as an actual woman, and the extremes of stereotyping it goes to do strike me as parodic. I don't particularly mean this to be a negative thing, but it is (usually) so far into caricature that I can't remove parody from the equation.

As I say, this is my conception of 'drag', which is very very very far away from my conception of cross-dressing, transvestitism, or transexualism.

emil.y, Saturday, 10 October 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not one to argue. I'm not a transvestite, nor a drag queen, nor even gay. Certainly I'm not a woman. So really, I know shit on shit.

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Saturday, 10 October 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I suppose the line I'm drawing in my head is between those bizarre and convincing drag shows you catch at 1am in New Orleans, and "To Wong Foo."

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Saturday, 10 October 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

i think 'like blackface' might have been a fairly worthwhile call; blackface performance had a lot more dimensions to it than ridicule. obviously blackface is/was poisoned/poisonous in a buncha ways that drag isn't. otoh female impersonation was quite often a part of the 19th-century minstrel show, and not just in a pantomime-dame way, either

thomp, Saturday, 10 October 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link

(otoh there were a lot of black minstrel show performers, and i can't quite work around the idea of women dressing in drag as women) (insert gender studies degree here)

thomp, Saturday, 10 October 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 11 October 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

i've dressed in men's clothes before, but it was for my job at nordstrom. so it doesn't really count--it's not like i bound my tits or stuffed my pants or anything. i fucking hated wearing a tie though. HATED.

i wouldn't ever be interested in trying to do drag, partially because i'd be afraid that i'd look too convincing as a man, in a bad way. i'm insecure.

which is weird, because i know (female) people that occasionally do drag and look really hot--maybe it would take a confidence that i lack. or something.

JuliaA, Sunday, 11 October 2009 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I once went to a (M/F) wedding where the dress for the reception was "formal drag." It was kind of fantastic to see, although I was unconvincing.

Thing that blew my little mind in 1992: going to Wigstock in Tompkins Square Park and seeing a handful of biological women in "drag" as women. (It's possible to do that in a way that's not so possible for bio-men to be "drag kings.")

Douglas, Monday, 12 October 2009 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link

kenan your photo is truly incredible.

existential eggs (Abbott), Monday, 12 October 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

That's not me, btw. That's a screenshot of Graham Chapman from Monty Python's Meaning of Life. Lest anyone be confused.

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Monday, 12 October 2009 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 12 October 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

WELL.

ian, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 06:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Indeed.

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 07:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i fucking hated wearing a tie though. HATED.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/green-tie.jpg

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 08:04 (fourteen years ago) link

So, if we would take the numbers to be representative, this would mean 52% of ILXors have dressed in drag. And out of the ones who haven't, 12% would like to. Great results!

Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 10:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I went to a birthday party with a drag theme, thrown mostly by lesbian women, so I took an eyeliner pencil and painted on a John Waters-type moustache.

Squash weather (Eazy), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Are you a girl, or was that a case of a guy being a drag king?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 10:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i intend to be a big-assed grandma for halloween tbh

elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 20 October 2009 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link

four years pass...

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