The Fatah guy quoted sounds a bit like he is falling into the usual kind of conspiracy theory thinking that people in the Middle East are apaprently mad for. He is also doing that thing of assuming that everything happens because the USA wants it to happen.
I reckon that the USA-Israel alliance in fact hoped that Fatah would crush the Hamas government militarily and then happily sign a spectacularly one-sided treaty with Israel. That this has proved an unrealistic goal should not be a surprise, given the surrealism of so much US policy in the Middle East.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link
but as i mentioned above, it fits with past u.s. tactics in places like nicaragua and vietnam
I'm not saying you're wrong, but what particular U.S. tactics in Nicaragua and Vietnam are analogous to supporting the faction you actually want to lose?
― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 22:00 (sixteen years ago) link
Unlikeliest headline ever:
Cheney hears Palestinian complaints
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080323/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cheney
― Hurting 2, Sunday, 23 March 2008 22:08 (sixteen years ago) link
fuk:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080509/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon
― Hurting 2, Friday, 9 May 2008 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Pretty crazy. One thing I have heard is that Hezbollah are deliberately only fighting the Sunni militias, as the Druze are too hard core and they want to leave the Christians alone.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Saturday, 10 May 2008 12:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Way to help the peace process, retard monkey boy.
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7010958242
― StanM, Thursday, 15 May 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
I hope one day to broker a peace agreement between Israel and the forces of Evil.
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 15 May 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link
So this is why Bush is saying all the wrong things: please attack us again, terrorists, so we can keep the white house & attack Iran!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/051608_rumsfeld_tape.htm
Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
― StanM, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link
(ok, it's on prisonplanet, but I did think about the same thing when I heard there was a Bin Laden reaction to his speech - that that is exactly why the GWB speech happened)
― StanM, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/05/fun-and-games-w.html Same thing from Wired blogs
― Shot on 8mm Video, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Is there a reason this is on the Israel thread?
― Hurting 2, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Who knowss. But apparently in Lebanon the Hezzers did try it on with the Druze, and the Druze did turn out to be too hardcore. Or so I read on some guy's blog.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Since when have the Druze been hardcore?
― baaderonixx, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Jumblatt has been a turncoat for a while, no?
― baaderonixx, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link
xxxpost: it's all connected & stuff, but yeah, sorry
― StanM, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link
In any case, you could read that Rumsfeld quote a few different ways. He could have meant "What we need is another attack," but he could have also meant "When the inevitable next attack comes it's going to change people's attitudes." Still makes me a bit queasy though.
― Hurting 2, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link
oh god, i'm dreading the inevitable emails i'm gonna get from my 9/11 conspiration theory friends...
― baaderonixx, Friday, 16 May 2008 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link
you mess with them, you dead.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 16 May 2008 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link