Rolling Teenpop 2006 Thread

shamefully yes

>i feel even more contrarian than the year i went nuclear when JHO
(jennifer
>hudson, now a major movie role in Dreamgirls coming out Dec as we all
know)
>and Jon the Hobbit boy got booted before the final 3.
>
> i LOVED kelly pickler's "Unchained Melody" (that got her booted);
it was
>the first time in my life i have enjoyed the song. and yes, i
listened
>with my eyes closed so i didn't have to look at her goony face. her
giant
>country-voice accent and style had total raw-cred points by me; real
>country (whatever the hell country is these days) singers DO wobble
and
>miss exact pitches, and they got giant accents that are the OPPOSITE
of
>Faith fucking Hill. i liked her/Kellie way better than last year's
winner
>whatshername. and because she's a dumbfuck village Carolina tinytown
girl,
>maybe she coulda got miranda lambert (from a tinytown Texas ditto) to
throw
>her some song rejects.
>
> america is stupid and missed on a likely platium or double-platinum
>country act.
>
> i can't stand the voices of the chumps that're left. the only
other
>voice that i liked of the Top 10, was the little 16 year old black
girl who
>sang Signed Sealed & Delivered back in the days when Bucky was still
>allowed to show his ugly face. well, i kinda liked her singing but
the
>song (choices) were mostly lame.
>
> and that Chris I'm the Grunge Guy...good lord, a CREED fan still
roaming
>the earth. shoot that motherfucker now! this is not what my daddy
went
>to world war II for.
>
> good fucking god, MANDY MOORE in American Dreamz craps all over
these
>losers. and the theme song was better. and funnier.

(revised projected encore sectoin after the first 30 songs / 37 min playing time) --

Kelly BEHIND THESE HAZEL EYES
Black Flag NERVOUS BREAKDOWN
Kelly SINCE U BEEN GONE


yes, i am planning on turning kelly and swedish pop's biggest hit in to a "Black To Comm" vehicle, people all over the stage out of the crowd (there's three vocal microphones to turn them loose on, four if we unhook the drummer's)

times they are a changin!

vocal microphones to turn them loose on, four if we unhook the drummer's.

kelly picklere shoulda won weeks ago, she smoked Bohemian Rhapsody, was an automatic 1x or 2xplatinum nashville-facotyr country/pop prototype (much better voice than Carrie Underfuckingwood), AND i loved her "Unchinaed Melody" . even if looking at her goober idiot face was disconverintg.

i'd close my eyes and listen to voices (during the middle 30 seconds of each 90 second tune), that's why i'm the best AI judge who ever said "fuck!" ten times onstage during a punk rock set. Kelly had a great voice, huge natural southern accent. woulda been a good honky tonky singer in the 50's a la Jean Sheperd.

the only other voice i enjoyed in the Top 10 was the little richkid black girl from Anaheim who made horrible song chioces after "Signed Sealed and Delivered," she just lost her confidence quickly in the following weeks.

the others (singing, not performaing) just made my head hurt. i enjoy grey haired dork guy as a performer mightly, but his voice is just horrible....3rd rate Ray Charles hyrbird.

but that's what Pro Tools is for!

look at how great Bo Bice's Mx/Luke tracks sound! 2 of em on th ealbum are they are fucking great!

re A*Teens tracks -- the great dance mixes for Heartbreak Lullabye and A Perfect Match ("radio mix") are on the CD-eps, ie german/scandanavia CD-singles.

not to mention their great cover of Wizzard's #1 xmas hit (of 1973 i guess)
I Wish It Could Christmas Everyday

A*Teens = my favorite pop vocal group of the last 30 years since ABBA!

*Nothing against ILE, I just have to draw the line somewhere, and not stay online perpetually.

-- xhuxk (xedd...), May 15th, 2006.

Make that 3rd rate Michael McDonald hybrid...and I like his voice. He really should've done Brown Eyed Girl at some point. He will win, of course.

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Fuck that shit. I'll keep Metal Mike's ramblings here (and Ramon, it was Mike who called the grey-haired dork guy's voice horrible, not me; I only watched one half of one *Idol* episode this season).

"Teenage vulnerability is the official language of the Internet," it is claimed, by Greenwald. Asinine quotes are the basic phlogiston/hydrogen molecule of newspapers. This was no exception, but perfect for the article.

McFly was briefly on in the background of Ebert & Ropeman as they reviewed Lohan's new movie last night. Not enough to persuade me to buy it even though they are described as Beatle-esque in popularity in the UK.

But the music story I was most interested in over the weekend was the Dixie Chicks on "60 Minutes" which is not for here.

And I'm sticking a link to my Wolfmother hate here since they were on an iTunes/iPod commercial last week and I sort of know a teenager who had two of her iPods stolen which bugs her one parent to know end because he has to replace them.

http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2006/05/wolfmother-their-natural-seventies.html

"Teenage vulnerability is the official language of the Internet," it is claimed, by Greenwald. Asinine quotes are the basic phlogiston/hydrogen molecule of newspapers. This was no exception, but perfect for the article.

McFly was briefly on in the background of Ebert & Ropeman as they reviewed Lohan's new movie last night. Not enough to persuade me to buy it even though they are described as Beatle-esque in popularity in the UK.

But the music story I was most interested in over the weekend was the Dixie Chicks on "60 Minutes" which is not for here.

And I'm sticking a link to my Wolfmother hate here since they were on an iTunes/iPod commercial last week and I sort of know a teenager who had two of her iPods stolen which bugs her one parent to no end because he has to replace them.

http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2006/05/wolfmother-their-natural-seventies.html

So, Kelly's D is radder because it's longer, BUT ... the Lillix song is a considerably more ballistic - approx. 148 BPM vs. 130 BPM - and the Lillix singer's hollering is pretty darn full-bodied sounding, though smaller sounding than Kelly's pretty extraordinary belting.

"if she/they hit a higher note right after "feet on the floor," like hitting the "on" note for "feel it..." as well, then it would be much closer to "4ever" et al. I don't know if that's exactly what they were going for, there's no climactic note/line in "Beat of My Heart" either, except maybe "Away away." Maybe it's all those shouting voices singing such a restrained chorus."

That was in response to this from Abby who originally linked to the song earlier:

"I've been listening to the Lillix a lot, and I have to say it's growing on me, especially the pacing. But I have managed to pinpoint my issue with that chorus: the sense of strain on the vocal range.

Ok, imagine Hilary Duff was singing it - think how much clearer, easier that "Get your feet on the floor" would be because of her voice. Now listen to the obvious trouble Tasha-Ray/Lacey-Lee has hitting that top part. For me, that's what brings it down, even though they've layered with lower shouting and volume and changed the feel of it, I still hear it and think "Not quite there, honey." And that's a shame, because the rest of it is really well written. It'll be interesting to hear the rest of the album and find out if she really can't make those notes, or if it was just this song that was written this way."

You make me wanna LA-la in the kitchen on THE floor
I'll be your FRENCH maid when I meet you at THE door
I'm like an ALLEY cat
Drinkin' milk up I WANT more

oh god nooo, someone brought back Real McCoy from the dead. is nothing sacred?

what next Bad Boys Blue?

they still have 5,000-10,000 12" singles in the 25 cent graveyard section of Rasputin's Newark, but i don't think there's been a good dump (even a couple handfuls is a goldmine) of 80's dance or Eurodance in onver a year. i do have some crazy good 80's euro 12" from that store.

the 15,000+ vinyl lps in the adjacent 25 cent album graveyard has been quiet for a while too...i loaded up a boxful in january, but i don't see any big influx.

they did have a brand new dump of about 15,000 into their 15/$10 cds...ha. a sealed copy of the SLEEPOVER soundtrack! (alexi vega movie i actually saw in the theatres). and a sealed Tangled Up In Me cd single. and i dunno, i filled up a plastic crate with 75 cds by the time i was done...including a dozen of the first two britney albums (and some other random things) to sell at our gigs for 50 cents each...music is for the people you dig.

but when you get down the serious music....it's all about the Kylie 12"ers. that and the occasional PWL 12" remix that actually doesn't suck.

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for about one week i have played Behind These Hazel Eyes and Since U Been Gone, with an occasional Because Of You and/or Walk Away (? the most recent hit) thrown into the cd-program, over and over and over at near-deafening volume. ok, at least once a day.

has year 2005 already started yet?

lesson again learned that you haven't really heard something until you throw it up onto a loud stereo system, even just mid-fi as opposed to high-fi or low-fi.

Dr/Max have great judgement in live studio drummers...the (two) guys who played on those tracks are awesome. from 1998 on out, i have loved Max Martin's percussion/rhythm section tracks.

If you're gonna buy records by those hippie singer-songwriters (below) then i have a few dozen early Cat Stevens albums i can get you for 25 cents/ea at the nearby Newark Rasputin's "graveyard store" (where's there's always 10,000-15,000 25 cent lps).

singers should just fucking sing and leave the writing to the professionals. two words = Eric Burdon & the Animals! bad things can happen when you let an act write "their original materia, man." ok, Miranda Lambert is allowed cause she's got skills. speaking of singers --

yes -- the Mylie Cyrus (billy ray's girl in real life and on the TV show) tune "Best of Both Worlds" being played on Radio Disney sounds awesome! didn't make much of an impression on my 3" TV speakers, but on the bathroom boombox her twangy accent really jumps out in a great way.

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why Skye Sweetnam is smarter than all of us:

http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Lowdown/2006/04/25/1549941.html

good lord, d'you think she wrote enough songs in pre-production (for the album).
70? are you sure 70's enough? maybe 170 would do the trick.

70 songs sounds like a mercury/venus conjunct in Gemini (hers) to me. plus the Taurus sun for the hard work.

xpost that Metal Mike Real McCoy bit was in reference to the BWO video for "Temple of Love."

I think they made the right choice in holding off on the chorus until after the second verse on "Sweet Temptation," though. It would have sounded forced after the first verse (and that little run they do in place of the chorus after the verse is a nice "fakeout," as you say - building tension leading to the release after the second verse).

The Veronicas song really has two short verses before the chorus (four lines each), I would say.

The Lillix song is really no different compositionally, but they performed it and arranged it as New Wave music per se and that's why I'm hearing it as much more of a transcendent track. It transcends contempo teenpop by being New Wave and it transcends New Wave revivalism by being contempo teenpop!

I love the Lillix track but "4ever" feels like the better song, tighter, better sung, better hooks. Like they've set these (admittedly familiar) marks in the song and just nail them, production and vocals, whereas the Lillix single feels like it should be just a little sharper, especially in the chorus. It has other things going for it...the 1-2-3-4 bridge, the fakeout (which I like)...kind of a tough call.

(wld also b gd bandname)

It was I who wrote that hateful message.

Still unimpressed, but looking again, do agree with Frank on the crumpet factor.

Q: Was this year challenging?

A: yeah... very... not school but just what happens behind school...

O.K , so now I'm freaked out , I'm really scared . I know I shouldn't complain because everything seems to be going so well for me , but this is not my doing , all I did was sign a deal , put up a few songs on myspace , and everyones gotten all excited , I on the other hand am shitting myself . I've been hyped so much , i feel fucked . I feel like my live thing isn't living up to what people think it should , but I've only ever done two shows . People are giving me shit for being a mockney and denying my middle class roots , but the songs I sound mockney on I recorded when I was 18 and probably WAS pretending to be something I wasn't , the album gets progressively posher though , infact the last thing I redcorded I practically sound like camilla parker bowles on .Most of all , I feel like I'll be letting everyone down if I don't sell fuck loads of records , and that's not what I wen't into this for , it's meant to be fun , no ? I know take the highs with the lows and all that , but I'm on the rag , I have a huge spot on my chin and I feel like shit .

(Prose I'm talking about, though I have no problem with her lyrics. Not as rich or subtle as they'll get in the future.)

Finally saw the video for that big Panic! At The Disco song. The lead singer is very effeminate isn't he? I wonder how teenage boys are processing it. Is it some sort of Brandon Flowers thing taken to extremes?

frank

Amy Diamond's new single has hit the Swedish charts at #4, realplayer link on http://sr.se/p3/topplistor/hitlistan/ - it's not especially dis-similar to her other stuff...

Also, Magnus Carlsson and Andreas Lundstedt - the two blokes from Alcazar - have solo singles in the top five. Neither is especially stunning.

Throughout dinner -- where we're joined by the girls' dad, Mark, who owns a successful contracting company -- kidnapping comes up in coversation. Carrie says that hen the girls were invited to a party Elton John was giving, she sent a body guard with them, because "if they got in someone else's care, I could never see them again." Hollywood, mom and daughters agree, is "full of freaks." Later on, Aly pets her big black dog Saint vigorously (they're about to get two puggle pups, too), and says he's there to protect them from "perverts."

You're home-schooled girls in a gated suburb -- why are you so afraid of kidnapping?

"It's not a fear of ours, Aly says."We just want people to be aware. You could live in a nice neighborhood and there could be some perv there. You never know."

Later, re: home-schooling:

Given the pronounced Christian overtones in the home-schooling movement, we can't help but ask the girls for their thoughts on that cultural hot potato, intellgient design.

Do you believe in evolution?

"No," AJ says, shaking her head and frowning.

"Wait, Aly says," bolting forward. "Are they teaching that in schools now?"

They've ben teaching it for the beter part of a century.

"I think that's kind of disrespeectful," Aly says. "Anything that has to do with anybody's beliefs on religions, that should stay out of the classroom. I mean, I think people should be able to pray in schol, if people were into that. Everybody should just do their own gig."

"Evolution is silly," AJ adds. "Monkeys? Um, no."