"The Wire" on HBO

not... really. Seeing as how s2 was a digression in its entirety from the Barksdale plot, why would you think the show was just about that one story?

ok not in its entirety, but in its mostliness.

i saw brother mouzone on saturday.

I felt like s3 came to a pretty decent conclusion for the series, not so much because of the Barksdale gang getting pretty definitively busted up, but more the combination of McNulty's decision to return to community policing and Bell's death. They were sort of the Holmes and Moriarty of the show, and each of them had reached a satisfying conclusion to their arc.

That said, I think the angle they put out for S4 worked out great and am really looking forward to the angle they've got for s5. I'd even like to see that slightly hinted-at s6 about migrant labor communities.

was he reading harper's? get me my harper's

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season five is the last season, pal

I remember getting told S3 was the end of the line, too.

that was obviously not the case considering the rise of marlo stanfield in season 3

thanks for puttin that better than i could oilyrags!

with season two it felt like filler - there to just consume space between the 1st and 3rd season (that's not to say i didn't like it or anything).

woah xpostin'

xpost or carcetti

The rise of Marlo wasn't neccesarily setting up anything but the futility of taking down any particular crime org instead of fighting root causes. If you think the point of the Wire is 'winning' the case, you need to watch closer.

what would make an appropiate end of the line then, if not Bell getting got and McNutty siting back? The end of all drug dealing in baltimore forever and everyone making major?

they could just keep going with side stories forever (which would be fine believe me) but the end of season 3 just felt like a really good end.

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One and three I liked, especially for every second I could have with Omar or Stringer but there was way too much fucking McNulty, and personally I don't really care that much about the technical stuff of having a wire. Seasons 2 and 4 had the best personal dramas, I thought. You couldn't have ended with Season 3, because it was Season 4 that really got into the heart of what's so tragic about the drug trade.

Another interesting aspect of season 4 was how everything early in the season was getting us to believe Namond would get in to the game and Michael was the one with the head on his shoulders, which didn't turn out to be the case at all. I like that the show never relies on easy psychology, and how different characters are able to radically surprise you without ever seeming unbelievable.

Carcetti also had a complete arc in S3. It was extended nicely, but I could certainly have lived with it stopping where it did. Ditto Bunny, since someone will bring him up next, I'm sure.

The rise of Marlo wasn't neccesarily setting up anything but the futility of taking down any particular crime org instead of fighting root causes. If you think the point of the Wire is 'winning' the case, you need to watch closer.

yes, but season 4 reveals just how carefully and for how long that had been planning and setting up another season. When s3 was rumored to be the last, Simon wasn't done yet.

he wasn't reading a harper's, unfortunately. did you know that his ass't who was told to get the harper's was the kid from "the corner?" as in, the actual kid the book is about, not an actor?

If you think the point of the Wire is 'winning' the case, you need to watch closer.

don't you fucking tell me how to watch the wire

haha

i'll fix your clock like prop joe

eat a lollipop like mar-lo

Actually, the end of Deadwood at S3 is a pretty good reflection of The Wire at the end of S3. Sure, there's plenty more you CAN do. But important conclusions have been reached, and on the whole, its quite satisfying as it stands.

That said, sure, I'd LOVE to have some more Deadwood.

"don't you fucking tell me how to watch the wire"

I recommend using both eyes, and the organ behind them.

wtf organ is behind the eyes?

freak!

http://medweb.bham.ac.uk/research/toescu/Resources/Homepage/HumBrainProfile%202.gif

my brain is a muscle

i was under the impression the brian was not an organ. but i have now been wikiducated and will now go get one.
morans.

Sometimes I think my brain is a clavinet, actually.

there's a few of the wire kids in that decent movie "half nelson".

It's got the "Fresh" kid in it too, right? Man, that was a good movie. He was good on "The Corner" too, to take it back to David Simon.

Bodie was on Oz but that show is ballz

did you know that his ass't who was told to get the harper's was the kid from "the corner?" as in, the actual kid the book is about, not an actor?

-- hstencil, Wednesday, June 13, 2007 3:29 PM (8 hours ago)

thats awesome, totally didn't recognize him. what's that mouzone line? "your homophobia.. is so visceral"

ok, now I've seen all of it that you have. At long last. I'm still watching s4 episodes twice, and still catching more. Like that Michael was sexually abused by his stepfather. I did not get that the first time, because Michael hates him, but wtf he's an 8th grader, maybe he's he's being crazy irrational and just wants control of the house. But the scene when he rushes home and finds his stepdad with Bug all cradled-like, and Michael orders Bug over, and Bug follows, and stepdad says nothing even though it's his own son... it took two viewings, but I finally got it. And it adds up all down the line. Michael is distrustful of Cutty because Cutty is... on one level, having sex, which makes Michael uncomfortable enough, and on another level, having sex that is kind of illicit, at least in Michael's mind.

Aaaaaanyway. I could go on and on. But instead I will go to bed.

We just finished S3. I ab-so-lu-te-ly adore this show. We'll have to wait a few months till we can rent S4 tho. :-(

no no... download it!

coming back from my jog today i came across the familiar line of haddad's trucks. followed them to the outside set where i watched them film a few takes of clay davis coming down the court steps and making some sort of victory speech after apparently winning some case against him xD xD

I still have S4 sitting on my hard drive unwatched. AHHH

Sheeeeeit, more Clay Davis! (xpost)

A while back I was talking to a mutual friend of the local rapper Ammo, who had a recurring role as "Spider" on seasons 3 and 4, and they said that he's been "caught up in the streets" to focus on music full-time, which is a pretty depressing real-life parallel with when Spider kinda blows off Cutty and stops coming to the gym.

Commuted Sentence, got that Commuted Sentence, 3 for 10...

uk fans, there is a charlie brooker doc abt 'the wire' on uknova. it was on fx the other night.

charlie brooker is about the last person i would want to hear talking about this show

i'll watch it tonight and see. kind of know what you mean, but british television criticism is the shame of the nation and brooker is better than the others. i don't know who i'd pick in the uk to do it. well, other than penman, but i say that about everything.

ok i'm halfway through. it's bad. if brooker ain't the right guy to present, his UK interviewees are more wtf. nick hornby ffs. a lot of it is brooker talking to two random guys about life in b'more, seven y.o.s with aks and whatnot...

ugh! way to pollute the wire for me

they were all fucking idiots with absolutely nothing to bring except they were just about famous and liked 'the wire'. but they didn't have a single thing to say about it except "it's better than other cop shows". which is always a big cop-out (PUN). it was brooker on autopilot too.

roffle/smh @ the wire getting no emmy nods to studio 60 getting 5.

RAPPER Felicia "Snoop" Pearson, who plays a vicious drug dealer on HBO's "The Wire," once served time in the shooting death of a teenager and made ends meet in jail by selling homemade sex toys. In her upcoming autobiography, "Grace After Midnight," Pearson writes, "It ain't like setting up a Starbucks in the mall . . . I crafted them in four sizes. Made them as real-life as possible. I knew my workmanship had to be solid or I'd get complaints." She was paid with cans of soup, packs of cookies, candy and, once, a joint.

http://www.midheaven.com/fi/Images/Kids-4color3.jpeg

top right - johnny the junkie

Whoa holy shit @ Snoop: crafter of fine prison dildos.

It took me two eps to figure out she was a girl, but she god oddly cuter throughout the season. Or maybe that's just me.

she GOT oddly