Tell Me about the Fender Jazzmaster (MOD: Also Jaguar, etc.)

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i'm broke, but everyday, the simple act of NOT buying an MIJ jazzmaster kills a little part of my soul.

Mark Danjer (Danjer), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 04:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Mark, any good Fender dealer can order you the USA Jazzmaster pickups. They just have to order them as a part, not out of the accessory catalog. BTW, they don't come with the covers, so keep that in mind. Actually, I can get you at least the part number for the neck pickup, which is 005-4444-000. If you need the other part number, I can track it down for you later.

John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link

well, what's better, USA Fender JMpups or the duncanz

dhfasuklAFDGHJK, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

If I came into $2000, I'd probably buy a vintage one immediately. Or, a Jaguar.

jordache, Thursday, 13 April 2006 00:44 (eighteen years ago) link

In the past week, I bought a MIJ JazzMaster. I assume that when you are switching between the Lead and Rhythm circuits using the two position slide, the toggle switch needs to be in the middle position so that both the neck and bridge pickups are selected. Can someone confirm this?

Jeffrey B. Norris, Tuesday, 18 April 2006 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link

By the way, Curtis Novak makes four different replacement pickups for the Jazzmaster, including a blade pickup and a humbucker, all of which fit in the existing cavities without any modification. He hand-winds all of his pickups in the same manner used by Leo Fender. I ordered a Vintage JM pickup for the neck and a P-90 JM pickup for the bridge. Haven't installed them yet. I bought these before I had the guitar in my hands. I was actually surprised by the quality of the tone produced by the stock pickups. Much better than you would think reading many web sites. I suspect that most of the really strong complaints come from people who use very heavy distortion.

J. Norris, Tuesday, 18 April 2006 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

With time, I've been really disappointed by the Jazzmaster. It hasn't worn well. The little circuit switch got knocked off (far too easily for a gigging instrument) and it's almost impossible to switch between the circuits. And now the pickups keep cutting out and the pickup switch has gone all wonky.

I haven't exactly kept it in a box - I've been rehearsing and gigging with the thing - but it's not been subjected to much worse wear and tear than, say, my Danelectro was, which just took it like a warhorse.

Henrietta Leavitt and the Cepheid Variables (kate), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 08:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe that's why I've seen a lot of Jazzmasters/Jaguars with the switches gaffer-taped up.

Ben Dot (1977), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link

cobain did that to prevent himself from accidentally flicking them. a lot of people do it for the sole reason of copying him.

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Norris,

Thats a mighty interesting link you posted. Oddly, the two pickups I've been most interested in trying are the P-90 and the Charlie Christian... definitely let me know how those Novak joints stack up. If they're the biz, I'd have excuse to finally get a JM...

b mulvey, Thursday, 20 April 2006 02:55 (eighteen years ago) link

link = mention, which led to google. you know. i'm retarded.

b mulvey, Thursday, 20 April 2006 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link

(x-post) You don't want to sell yr Jazzy, do you Kate?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 20 April 2006 08:43 (eighteen years ago) link

No really... I'm just kind of annoyed at all the work it seems to need already when it's only 2 years old!

Henrietta Leavitt and the Cepheid Variables (kate), Thursday, 20 April 2006 10:07 (eighteen years ago) link

tremsee:

I will definately post my opinion of the tone produced by the Novak pickups.

Still need answer to my original question. What position does the circuit selector slide switch need to be in if you want both pickup activated? Obviously, toggle switch is in the middle position.

Norris, Thursday, 20 April 2006 10:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Mason:

My Jazzmaster is a2003 and it's still mint. I can only base my opinion on a couple of weeks of ownership, but mine seems as solid as my Strat or Tele. And there's something about the JM that makes it more fun to play than any of other guitars I own.

norris, Thursday, 20 April 2006 10:36 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post - just wondering Kate. I fancy a JM or a Jag.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 20 April 2006 10:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Still need answer to my original question. What position does the circuit selector slide switch need to be in if you want both pickup activated? Obviously, toggle switch is in the middle position.

Down. At least that's how it is on my '65 JM

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:23 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't think it's an either/or question (re: slide switch). this is what dude at guitar store told me:

if it's down, you put the toggle switch in the middle to have both pick-ups pickin' up. if it's up, then the toggle switch is cut out of the circuit altogether and the pick-up "mix" is controlled by how far one of those two funny little wheels on the upper part of the body is to the right or left (i forget which of the two wheels). it's a custom blend of the two pick-ups.

btw, just played two '66 vintage JM's at chicago music exchange, one of which sounded tinny and rattley, one of which sounded so warm and organic and lush it blew my mind more than a guitar has in a long time. but at $4000 i won't be walking out with it any time soon.

markdanger, Saturday, 22 April 2006 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
eye dew knot no how 2 phind owt watt year mi JM izz it waz kraphted in japan the ser.No. izz Q030524 kan anyone help me.. {it izz lake placid blue(shiney blue)}

heith, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 01:57 (seventeen years ago) link

According to the serial number, it was made in 1993-1994.

Here's a generally useful tool for Fender dating:

http://www.fender.com/support/dating/

John Justen (johnjusten), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, if you go here:

http://www.fender.com/support/diagrams/index.php

and scroll all the way to the bottom of the page (which will take a while) there's a really straightforward Jazzmaster switching diagram in pdf format. I would post it, but I'm not smart enough to know how to post .pdf format to Ilx.

John Justen (johnjusten), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I am going to buy a reissue 62 JM or a Jag. I don't know which though, so you're going to have to help me!! I will be trying out a few of each over the next few months. I want character, unusual tones, something a bit out of the ordinary (alright.....I want to sound like Tom Verlaine, but the fingers may not be up to the job). I'm hoping it'll sound great on cleans and light o/drive, from what I read I don't think I'll be disappointed, but no idea what to expect with higher gain effects.

As far as I can tell the Jag has one more fret (not important), a strangle switch (is this good? I like the sound of it), different PUs (any info about the characteristics of these would be interesting). How do the different circuit/pick-up combos compare?

Jim - you said yr old JM was way better than yr Jag. Any more thoughts?

Also, thoughts on the bridge. Are they really as dodgy as people say? I am happy to put in a buzz bar or a mustang bridge, but your thoughts welcome.

Dr.C, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I see there were bridge and PU comments upthread that I hadn't seen. Anyway - more welcome.

Dr.C, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

There are not enough pictures on this thread! What does your Fender Jazzmaster look like?

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2363/1091/1600/may11guitar.jpg

I Was Wrong, That Don't Mean You Were Right (kate), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm gonna go for sunburst or candy-apple red if I can find a good one in those colours. Yours is lovely though, Kate.

Dr.C, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks for the diagram, I played a blue Jazzmaster a couple of weeks ago and felt too stupid to ask someone how those roll switches on the top worked.

What an odd wiring design.

I think the Jazzmaster/Jaguar body shape is really underused by Fender. I like the look without all of the extra switching. This Jaguar Baritone looks sharp and would be great as a two humbucker or P90 jazzmaster scale guitar. It would be like an SG with a Strat scale length.

ihttp://www.electric-guitar-review.com/images/Fender%20Jaguar%20Baritone%

Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Soon to be arriving at my store:

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0259505515

So incredibly good it hurts.

John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 01:28 (seventeen years ago) link

ESP got there WAY before them on that bass, and a bunch of cheap-o Chinese manufacturers too. Couldn't get them in the US, though.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 09:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, lust lust lust. I can't get that baritone picture to work, though.

The Minimal Criminal (kate), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 10:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Those Jaguar basses are gorgeous. I tried one out a couple of months ago and I loved it; very versatile with a great range of sounds. I'm currently lamenting the fact that I don't have the money, and should I get some money, my priority has to be a new computer. Bah!

Ben Dot (1977), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

And also lamenting that I let slip the oppurtunity to buy a Jaguar baritone for £350 including hardcase. Double bah!

Ben Dot (1977), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

btw, JJ: what store?? i should poke my head in next time i'm home.

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Eclipse Music in beautiful, scenic...West St. Paul.

John Justen (johnjusten), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Let's try this again...

ihttp://www.fendereurope.com/news/images/Jag_Baritone_Special.jpg

Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

gorgeous is the word

http://www.fender.com/products/prod_images/basses/0259505515_md.jpg

dan (dan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 23:25 (seventeen years ago) link

We sold the first two we got in (1 red, 1 black) the day they showed up. The neck on that bass is FANTASTIC, and the aged block inlays look super-cool in person. Feels sort of like the Geddy Lee neck, without the rest of the bass having all the Geddyleeidness.

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 19 May 2006 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link

are there other colors? the red headstock is kinda yucky

guess papers (eman), Friday, 19 May 2006 01:49 (seventeen years ago) link

My main bass these days is actually a Geddy Lee Jazz. It sounds good and the thin neck is choice. The only vintage thing they should have left off was having to take the neck off to adjust the truss rod. The inlays on the Ged are painted. I swapped out the white pickguard on mine and put a black pearloid one.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 19 May 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i will check it out next time i'm home, JJ!

gbx (skowly), Friday, 19 May 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

RE: Geddy Lee Bass.

Actually, we have one of those coming as well. They're fantastic. The Geddyleeidness I referred to is the Mod Shop style of that bass (badass bridge, etc.). My only actual critique of the bass is the black neck binding, which is legit, but still bugs me for some reason.

John Justen (johnjusten), Saturday, 20 May 2006 07:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I really like that Jag bass in the sunburst, it looks real fab. The red one didn't really get me, but the sunburst is the shiznick. I'm going to have to check out one of those.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 21 May 2006 01:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Personally I just want a Mustang like nuts, based mostly on coveting an old bandmate's. But I suspect I'm way too cheap about guitars for anything that nice to be the thing that replaces my broken-down Squier.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i've played a mustang, a musicmaster and a bronco - the mustang was def the nicest of the three. but jazzm tops them all imo. it feels so classy to play. i don't know why, but the jag felt like a guitar for making noise. beautiful noise, of course.

electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 05:01 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Hey Guys I work at a used music store and last week my boss brought in his 1962 jazzmaster (real deal) he got about 30 years ago for 250.00 and of course as a surf player i fell in love with it. my buddy happed to have a 62 re-issue so we did the pepsi challenge, The real one won round one…but I just set up the MIJ and
Were doing round 2 tomorrow. So ill get back to you.

The switch on top…at least on the MIJ I am playing in the down position is normal operation with volume and tone knobs and in the up position is only the neck pickup and the “wheels” are volume and tone for the neck pickup and the other controls are disabled. But the neck pickup rules and the bridge is too quiet but I think I can wedge something under it to raise it a little to match volume of neck pickup.

But I need a trem arm for the MIJ can anyone help? If you don’t use yours can I buy it from you. To me that’s the hero of the guitar is the trem system. I play in a surf band so it is necessary for me.
Thanks Scot

Scot Haut, Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey Guys I work at a used music store and last week my boss brought in his 1962 jazzmaster (real deal) he got about 30 years ago for 250.00 and of course as a surf player i fell in love with it. my buddy happed to have a 62 re-issue so we did the pepsi challenge, The real one won round one…but I just set up the MIJ and
Were doing round 2 tomorrow. So ill get back to you.

The switch on top…at least on the MIJ I am playing in the down position is normal operation with volume and tone knobs and in the up position is only the neck pickup and the “wheels” are volume and tone for the neck pickup and the other controls are disabled. But the neck pickup rules and the bridge is too quiet but I think I can wedge something under it to raise it a little to match volume of neck pickup.

But I need a trem arm for the MIJ can anyone help? If you don’t use yours can I buy it from you. To me that’s the hero of the guitar is the trem system. I play in a surf band so it is necessary for me.
Thanks Scot

Scot Haut, Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Psst. Secret information follows:

'65 Mustang MIJ reissue arriving for Fender summer production. Will be announced officially at Summer Namm.

John, Justen, REMIXING, MANG, WHAT??? (johnjusten), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 23:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that the "Competition" model? Or was that later?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 00:35 (seventeen years ago) link

No racing stripes...I think that was later. Apparently pretty painstakingly accurate though. I'll post more details tomorrow when I'm back at work.

John, Justen, REMIXING, MANG, WHAT??? (johnjusten), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 02:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Street price should be $700, btw.

John Justen, UMSOGTH PERMAPRESS CTHULU. (johnjusten), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I am not going to play a Fender with humbuckers

Not on a boat, not with a goat

I will not do it, sorry. Cool if that's your thing but if I want to play a guitar with humbuckers it will not be anything on Leo's platform

that of a giant Slor (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 19:21 (two years ago) link

boo my Tele Custom is my favourite guitar

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 20:19 (two years ago) link

I'm just more comfortable with a Jazzmaster or Jaguar than anything else, if I needed a drop C 7-string with EMGs I'd find a way to do it in one of those.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 21:02 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

fender honors 60 years of the jaguar by releasing an "ultra luxe" variant with....dual humbuckers, through-body stringing, a tune-o-matic, and (worst of all, a sin to end all sins) 25.5" scale length

https://www.fender.com/articles/gear/60-anniversary-jaguar?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20220414_Jaguar&utm_term=fender&src=email15DT041422&smtrctid=ffa5dba0-b6db-484d-a883-09fc217e39eb&c3ch=ecommemail&c3nid=20220414_Jaguar

call all destroyer, Friday, 15 April 2022 01:29 (two years ago) link

"honouring its rich legacy by systematically erasing every single design element specific to the Jaguar"

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 15 April 2022 01:35 (two years ago) link

if you buy this guitar you go through a time warp and become the rhythm guitarist of a forgettable, thursday-esque 2000s emo band.

call all destroyer, Friday, 15 April 2022 01:41 (two years ago) link

Lol

Ramones Leave the Capitol (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 April 2022 01:42 (two years ago) link

A real Jagblaster with the offset bridge and vibrato and the new Cunife Wide Range Humbuckers would be fucking awesome and the total amount of retooling needed by Fender would be updating CNC files to rout the bodies and pickguards for the humbuckers.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 16 April 2022 05:57 (two years ago) link

Or if supplies are limited on those, just put in regular humbuckers, whatever.

or Firebird pickups

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 16 April 2022 05:58 (two years ago) link

burn the heretic

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 16 April 2022 06:44 (two years ago) link

Could always just get a CIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH - at least you'll have a 24" neck and 7.25 radius to start with.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 16 April 2022 07:00 (two years ago) link

Offsets without the offset bridge and vibrato are crimes against god IMO. Pickups, scale length and headstocks are negotiable but those two things are required.

Also semi-hollow offsets that do away with the forearm curve, bad very bad.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 16 April 2022 21:16 (two years ago) link

squier makes a shoreline gold and a fiesta red HH jaguar that I've thought about buying used to convert to an actual jaguar but neither has the proper bridge or trem routing and one has a stupid strat jack on the front

joygoat, Saturday, 16 April 2022 22:58 (two years ago) link

My friend has an unstained dark wood jazz master, it’s a thing of beauty

calstars, Sunday, 17 April 2022 00:30 (two years ago) link

There's a Jaguar partscaster on Reverb with Super Distortions that's oddly compelling - I mostly hate the idea of a maple neck with black blocks, especially on an offset, but it winds up looking pretty good on this one.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 01:53 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

Good review of the AVII Jazzmaster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr9_sa_fsLo

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 19 November 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link

yikes. never been in the market for a usa-made fender but they have seemed to have a decent rep for a long time now, certainly not with qc issues like that

call all destroyer, Saturday, 19 November 2022 03:02 (one year ago) link

yeah wow those am vintage series were always prided on being super mint

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Monday, 21 November 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link

I have a squire jagmaster. It was the vista series from the 90s. Wonderful neck. Great vibrations

| (Latham Green), Monday, 21 November 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

I have a squire jagmaster. It was the vista series from the 90s. Wonderful neck. Great vibrations

| (Latham Green), Monday, 21 November 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

I had a 62 reissue. Cool looking guitar but I ended up not liking it and sold it a few years later. That one did hold its value though. I guess I am pretty much a Strat guy for my surf tremolo guitar action.

Jazzmasters are funky instruments and definitely not something that is ready to go out of the box. The vintage style bridge and it's location can be a bit tricky. I'd definitely file it next to the Firebird banjo tuners, a Bigsby and any guitar with a Floyd for stuff you got to figure out how to deal with if you want to play one on a regular basis.

Fender seems to have sold a boodle of the Squire J Mascis models and people seem to like them.

earlnash, Friday, 25 November 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

couple of honeys hanging at my place
https://i.imgur.com/d2ZKdIj.jpg

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 25 November 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link

That red matching headstock looks sharp.

earlnash, Friday, 25 November 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link

Cheers. I was never a Candy Apple Red fan but that one is 35 years old and has darkened up nicely.

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 25 November 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

Roy Clark is the best...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT2PTetKMU8

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 26 November 2022 02:56 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

Someone posted photos of the new Squire 12-string Jazzmaster's insides to r/offset and everyone is going full Zapruder film on the parts and possibilities
https://www.reddit.com/r/offset/comments/144c2d9/for_anyone_wondering_these_are_the_inner_workings/

Upgrade the wiring and the pickups and you would have a hell of a cool guitar with one of them.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 9 June 2023 10:29 (ten months ago) link

do i need one of these? no

do i want one of these? fuck yes

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 June 2023 10:33 (ten months ago) link

For those that have a rat, big muff, blues driver AND a tone bender... a little something for everyone!:

https://www.fender.com/en-US/effects-pedals/boost-gain/fender-shields-blender-limited-edition/0234552099.html

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 15:20 (ten months ago) link

huh i have a fender blender but i almost never use it, it's such an extreme and distinct sound

na (NA), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 15:23 (ten months ago) link

Run a pedalboard with the Albini Dude Incredible, Shields Blender and Sunn O))) Life Pedal to cover all your non-time based bases.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 23:00 (ten months ago) link

toss in the hizumitas pedal that earthquaker did w/the lady from boris!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 00:37 (ten months ago) link

I have a Rowland S Howard signature pedal - MXR D+ + Blue Box but I've never been able to tell if it's not functioning correctly or if the Blue Box is just that unusable for me. D+ side sounds great though.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 01:14 (ten months ago) link

I'm bringing my Acid Fuzz Sonic Boom 3-in-1 to this signature pedal festival.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 02:28 (ten months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjY2QJ1QnsU

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 03:25 (ten months ago) link

(the catch is that you have to figure out Shields' tuning in order to do all that)

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 03:26 (ten months ago) link

trying to figure out why this is $2-300 more than a stock Blender and it's basically the sag/clipping voltage feature (not really present on any mbv material afaik?)...

seems like i would rather take my regular blender and bring it to my soldering/mod guy and pay him $50 to mod it?

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 03:41 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Ultra deep dive on the Squire Jazzmaster XII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYvll3Jwn2M

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 3 July 2023 11:10 (nine months ago) link

People need to stop making me want that.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 06:08 (nine months ago) link


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