Does anyone really like the Red Hot Chili Peppers?

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words can't begin to describe how much i hate them...

robin (robin), Friday, 11 October 2002 14:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like 'em. For the type of band they are they're kind of a class act (socks-on-cocks notwithstanding). I heard their new single on MTV last night and thought it was pretty good -- Frusciante's playing actually sounded a little Verlaine-ish.

Jody Beth Rosen, Friday, 11 October 2002 14:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kind of the 90s Eagles, aren't/weren't they? Them and the Beastie Boys. Party animals with a conscience! Yecchhh

dave q, Friday, 11 October 2002 14:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

here's something i dont understand: hating a band like RHCP

why? well in my past i'd say i'd hate bands cos of their image and possible pretentiousness, laziness, delusion of how relevant they are, egos etc. but i cant think of a particular band now that have a strong dynamic and lots of energy (both on stage and on record) and have been known to write fine tunes over the years that i could actually HATE...i'm not really interested in the CHili Peppers anymore but ten years ago i liked them just as much as i liked Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Faith No More etc. which makes me sound like a casual/token rock fan which i probably was but still

i just wonder what really makes you HATE a band like them, i've said i hate Coldplay before but i dont really, just hate the hype around them cos i feel they're mediocre at best but whatever...

either way the Chilis are definitely past their best and should stop i guess

blueski, Friday, 11 October 2002 14:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

i'm starting to realize all saints' cover of undah the bridge is really CLASSIQUE.

nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 11 October 2002 14:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

The guy can't sing, is all, and doesn't emote enough to get anything across in the absence of singing. I don't care what the band's doing if the thrust of the songs are the vocals and they're so woefully ineffective. He's made a career of his hair. I hate them so much I can't begin to explain it further. Zero style.

matt riedl (veal), Friday, 11 October 2002 14:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

he cant sing but he does! you might as well say axl rose or jack white cant sing...maybe they DO somehow possess more of an emotive spark in their voices i dunno..if nothing else i;ve found Kiedis amusing at times, often intentionally, often not (a lot of the lyrics on 'californication' are naff i think)

i dont think the thrust of the songs are the vocals tho, thought that was flea and navarro's wanky riffs

blueski, Friday, 11 October 2002 14:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

"can't sing but he does" wouldn't be a problem if he just stuck to barking/yelping like he did in the early days but then he tried to get legit and he really lost me. there was nothing i hated more as a teenager than keidis running in slow motion in the video for "under the bridge" SHUT UP SHUT UP what happened to the party plan?? ahhhh this was what older kids did to "get chicks".... well i didn't want any part of it

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 11 October 2002 15:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

I liked them when I was a teenager, they were a fun live party band. The first 3 albums were good at the time but funky rock has no appeal for me today. They went down with Mother's Milk. The next one was awful, boring, bloated, too long, etc. Of course it made them huge stars. Haven't heard anything since, I have a friend who says their new one is good, but i have to assume he's mistaken.

g (graysonlane), Friday, 11 October 2002 15:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't wanna ever feel like I did that day.....

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 11 October 2002 15:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't ever wanna feel like I did that day.....

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 11 October 2002 15:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Under The Bridge" is a great song and _Mother's Milk_ is overrated.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 11 October 2002 15:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Freaky Styley and Uplift Mofo....were incredible albums at the time. If I didn't hear a lick of RHCP till Mother's Milk, I'd probably hate them too. And I do hate them for everything they've put out Mothers Milk going forward.

Brian W, Friday, 11 October 2002 16:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

also: sex appeal. They made sexy thrash! Kiedis and the rest were very cute to early teen me and the way Anthony sang about sex made me think maybe this is something I would like (not always the case for a young girl when men are singing about sex).

teeny (teeny), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

They are fucking shit. So terrible, I hate the way over in Ireland they're a symbol of a type of Americanism which probably doesn't even exist, tattoos and fucking extreme sports and obviously dancing around in underwear. Also for their fans saying Flea is the best bassist in the world, I DON'T CARE!

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

James Surowiecki (sic, probably) had a good thing in Slate a couple of weeks back about how he loves the new album and raving about John Frusciante (lot of technical musico speak too, to be expected from The New Yorkers' house economist I guess) and how he can only listen to the first ten to thirty seconds of each song because after that you have to listen to Anthony Kiedis sing. Dave Q's comment regarding Chili Peppers = Eagles seems especially deadon, they're everything that makes me suspect I'd hate L.A.

"tattoos and fucking extreme sports and obviously dancing around in underwear" - this America most definitely does exist (turn on ESPN2 next time you're stateside).

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Flea is the best bassist in the world...

insectifly (insectifly), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

...is one of the funnier 'truths of the nineties'.

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

RHCP as banner boys for X-Treme America - oh, that's some funny stuff, especially since they're dropping ornate instrumentation & three-part harmonies all over their newest album. CS&N fandom is XTREME! (I think that lifestyle Ronan & James describe / dispute exists nowadays only in shitty Coors beer commercials - that is, the commercials w/out the Andrew WK songs.)

_By The Way_ is damn good, by the way. (Oh, ha.)

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

You know how in surfing movies there's the grizzled old (ie. 30) surfer who looks kinda like Gary Busey with a touch of Montgomery Clift that the surfer kids look to as the elder/shamen of their tribe*? That's the role the Chili Peppers (and perhaps the guys in the Mountain Dew commercials) play in X-Treme America. Three-part harmonies = emotional maturation = one day I'll be nicer to my girlfriend.

* this may not be true

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Three-part harmonies = emotional maturation

Mr. Blount clearly hasn't had the pleasure of listening to Phish.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

BUT their cameo in The Simpsons is probably the best of any band

and if you dont think stuff like that is important then you can fuck right off

blueski, Friday, 11 October 2002 17:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

"everyone can enjoy that"

dleone (dleone), Friday, 11 October 2002 18:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"what I'd like is I'd like to hug and kiss you"

dleone (dleone), Friday, 11 October 2002 18:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

flea is great in back to the future two and the big lebowski!!

s trife (simon_tr), Friday, 11 October 2002 18:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

No singer has benefited more from auto-tune technology than Mr. Keidis.

RHCP write good singles though, "Road Trippin'" especially.

Yancey (ystrickler), Friday, 11 October 2002 18:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

Best Flea moive = Dudes. Best Anthony Movie = Point Break.

bnw (bnw), Friday, 11 October 2002 18:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Trivia time: RHCP's cover of "Subterranean Homesick Blues" is playing on the boombox near the begining of the 1988 Sam Elliot/Paul Weller film Shakedown. A white guy approaches Richard Brooks (later of Law and Order) and complains, "I hate rap!"

Bonus: Movie climaxes with Elliot deliberately crashing a jet, just barely missing the Twin Towers.

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 11 October 2002 20:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Does anyone really like the Red Hot Chili Peppers?"

A lot of people, seemingly. Not me, mind. Flea maybe a technically great musician, but his plinking-plonking-twanging bass sound is one of my least favourite sounds, not even just in the musical field. It's worse than the sound of belching. Ugh. "Californication" was in my top 5 least favourite albums of all time, it's an absolute dog of an album.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 11 October 2002 20:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Wrong. Best Flea movie = Penelope Spheeris' "Suburbia."

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 11 October 2002 20:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

'bloodsugarsexmagik' actually meant something to me at the time, even if it is just a watered-down version of a lot of other things done better by other people. "Give It Away" is a good single. also the dirty bits in the other songs were much-valued contraband to a twelve-year-old. and they do have their moments in their post-MothMilk stuff - "Soul To Squeeze" is their best non-album track, and "Warped" and "Scar Tissue" are also worth it. i would buy a singles comp from their later years, but that's all.

Dave M. (rotten03), Friday, 11 October 2002 20:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

how can you like Jane's Addiction and not like RHCP even a little bit?

Dave M. (rotten03), Friday, 11 October 2002 20:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Avoiding your point, but: I hate Jane's Addiction completely and like RHCP a little bit.

Yancey (ystrickler), Friday, 11 October 2002 20:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like "True Men Don't Kill Coyotes" but that's about it. Jane's Addiction (their direct L.A. peers) were light years better. Although the Chili Peppers are far better (i.e. less irritating) than any of the nu-metal stuff

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 October 2002 20:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Fishbone stalled but I would mention them, too. And everybody knows about the Minutemen, RHCP models. "Under the Bridge" is Flea's Watt immitation set to Journey.

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 11 October 2002 23:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Every once in a while they do something that doesn't make me want to immediately vomit, and that one video - think the song's called 'Otherside' is really a great video. My primary problem with them is that they seem like such half-baked assholes. Which is, you know, FINE. If only if their collective personalities were easily separable from the music. Instead, virtually everything they do reeks of it.

Kim (Kim), Saturday, 12 October 2002 00:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jane's Addiction (their direct L.A. peers) were light years better

maybe, but i would argue that the self-indulgent/dull/irritating moments in JA are at least as bad as anything RHCP did. i think the fact that JA broke up before most of their fans outgrew their stuff is their critical shining armor.

Dave M. (rotten03), Saturday, 12 October 2002 00:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

I really don;t like when the RHCP try to be serious. Some of their funk-ish tracks are better.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Saturday, 12 October 2002 00:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

The solo in "Scar Tissue" reminds me of the solo in "Torn".

James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 12 October 2002 05:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

They're the new generation's Rolling Stones...i.e. decrepit, washed-up, greedy, ruthless, millionaire drug addicts still hawking themselves as beacons of youth rebellion. Though at least Mick didn't need to have his vocals recorded one word at a time and painstakingly pieced together in the studio over months as Anthony does.

G. Turkington, Wednesday, 16 October 2002 22:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

If that really is Mr. Turkington, welcome. Neil Hamburger's entries in the premiere issue of Arthur make me smile.

the 1988 Sam Elliot/Paul Weller film

I would pay money to see Sam Elliot kill Paul Weller on film. Or at least abuse him.

As for the question at hand...I'll grant 'em "Give It Away" and Frusciante really is a fantastic musician on his own. But that's it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 23:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

“Yeah, That’s much better”

“Hey, why didn’t we think of that?”

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 17 October 2002 03:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ned -- is Arthur on the newstand?

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 17 October 2002 03:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

I forgot about Fishbone.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 17 October 2002 03:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ned -- is Arthur on the newstand?

Copies were at Terrastock.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 October 2002 03:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Their cover of Love Rollercoaster is about the worst thing anyone ever did. ssssSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 17 October 2002 11:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

i always kinda hated them. i mean, *funk metal*, come on. but every song i've heard by them over the last couple of years (their mature period i suppose) has been pretty good in a kind of world weary cali-druggy sort of way.

it pained me to say that.

adam b (adam b), Thursday, 17 October 2002 19:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thank you, Ned! I still haven't seen Arthur yet myself.

G. Turkington, Friday, 18 October 2002 23:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

five months pass...
u can all go **** urselves, rhcp rock. if u can't appreciate them for their musical ability then ur nuts. u need a serious head check!!

t, Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

oooh 'by the way' john frusciante is sooooooo cute! (that coming from a teenage girl)

t, Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxdigd6z7_Y

i remain blown away that i actually enjoyed the two new rhcp records that came out this year

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 30 December 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link

I have so much respect for your stance Brad and think you should be praised more for it. liking RHCP isn't quite as outré as repping for Theory of a Deadman but it's close

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 30 December 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI8Xw4j_3W0

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link

In every Guitar Center ever

calstars, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 20:04 (one year ago) link

the answer is yes. their lawyers; wifes-groupies-mistresses, drug dealers; accountants and the like

CerebralCaustic, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 00:11 (one year ago) link

is your version of this thread from 1991

waiting on a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 00:27 (one year ago) link

no worse new user bit than constantly trying to answer the thread title

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 00:35 (one year ago) link

"Scar Tissue" would be a pretty good instrumental, too bad about Kiedis's existence

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 00:41 (one year ago) link

The last five words of that sentence stand perfectly well on their own.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 01:07 (one year ago) link

i think i was hating on rhcp on here a few years ago because i was living with my sister at the time and she likes them lol. anyway i like a few songs tbh. but one thing i don't really get is anthony kiedis hate? like he's just inoffensively druggy-white-guy funky to me, not even close to the worst example of that in socal bands that made it big afaic.

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 02:02 (one year ago) link

I just hate his voice. and mostly on newer RHCP, his staccato vox from early RHCP (which I'm still kinda into) were fine.

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 02:08 (one year ago) link

I make fun of them constantly, though it truly is just the vocals and lyrics that I can't stand.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 02:44 (one year ago) link

guitar playing on one hot minute very sus iirc

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 02:48 (one year ago) link

Was kind of hoping this revive would be about the yabba dabba doo.

And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 02:49 (one year ago) link

barney rubble, what a little weiner

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 02:56 (one year ago) link

Everything they've done since Blood Sugar has been garbage, Kiedis is just the easiest piece to make fun of in their slow jam/ballad era.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 03:04 (one year ago) link

good for Flea, tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip61tzxpSQQ

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 03:05 (one year ago) link

inexplicable that these goofs are still huge while nobody under 30 has any idea who R.E.M. are.

I was at the Peach Bowl in Atlanta last month, with the Georgia Bulldogs from Athens one of the two teams. they played like three RHCP songs in the stadium that night and nothing by R.E.M. or the B-52's. a travesty.

charlie brown from outta town (GM), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 04:02 (one year ago) link

wait though, what would be the rem jam to play to a stadium of football fans?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 04:07 (one year ago) link

"It's the End of the World as We Know It," obviously. Maybe "What's the Frequency." I dunno, just saying it felt all kindsa messed up.

It was UGA vs. Ohio State, should've played nothing but Elephant 6 and Ron House.

charlie brown from outta town (GM), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 04:09 (one year ago) link

maybe The One I Love, too? stadium jams are such a strange genre

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 04:12 (one year ago) link

Doo-doo dingle zing a dong bone
Ba-di ba-da ba-zumba crunga cong gone bad

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 04:26 (one year ago) link

Looks like the University of Northern Iowa(??) did an R.E.M. show (audio here)

listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 04:34 (one year ago) link

I know most fans hate it but the R.E.M. song that could in some realistic universe have been a stadium jam is "Stand."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 04:37 (one year ago) link

OutKast has more stadium jams than REM or the B-52s.

Honestly the best stadium jam out of Athens GA is probably Matthew Sweet's "Girlfriend."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 05:03 (one year ago) link

Hero Worship or Runnin' Around could be slipped in as jock jams.

peace, man, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 10:50 (one year ago) link

Scar Tissue is a great song btw

castanuts (DJP), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 13:17 (one year ago) link

One of my students wrote beautifully about Scar Tissue last semester. I was a little dubious at first when she chose that song bc I had preexisting bias but she convinced me it was deeper than I thought.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 13:21 (one year ago) link

Idk why anyone is talking about REM jock jams but I’d vote for Stand!

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 13:21 (one year ago) link

Orange Crush > Stand

calstars, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 13:40 (one year ago) link

Turn You Inside Out could work, too. Or Finest Worksong, etc. Anything with big drums (which Stand lacks).

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link

but what is the Pylon stadium jam?

Brad C., Wednesday, 8 February 2023 13:52 (one year ago) link

For various reasons I have fallen into a hyperlocal music scene where 30-year-old people inexplicably love 30-year-old music.

Seriously RHCP is implicated in a seemingly inexhaustible well of 90s jams that the young adults apparently crave. Stone Temple Pilots, Alice in Chains, Goo Goo Dolls, Counting Crows, Sugar Ray, Hootie, Killers, Smashmouth, Gin Blossoms, Foo Fighters.

I have sat in on drums with two bands that play this stuff and it is a complete mindboink.

It's like this - I load in, set up my kit, get a drink, look out at a normal bar crowd. Ho, hum, I've done this a thousand times and mostly get ignored. Then the band starts up with "Under the Bridge" or "All Star" and the place fucking EXPLODES. All of a sudden, five 20-something women in sparkly tank tops are going WOOOO and putting money in the tip jar and asking if we know any Coldplay and buying me drinks.

It's uncanny and I have no explanation for it. When this music was current I had no love for it (I'm an 80s creature) but I can play it all from memory without thinking. If I had known this was a thing, I wouldn't have bothered with half my repertoire.

Auf Der Martini (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 14:04 (one year ago) link

Chili Peppers should do a "Shrek" song. Whether or not there's a new "Shrek" movie. Though for all I know, they're all "Shrek" songs. "Under the Bridge" is for sure about Shrek.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link

Sometimes I feel like I don't have an ogre

Auf Der Martini (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link

Sometimes I feel like my only friend / Is the donkey I live with / A wisecracking equine

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:11 (one year ago) link

Give it away give it away give it away now

Mike Myers walking like he talkin

Understand I don't wanna be a dorkwad

How come everybody wanna keep it like Lord Farquaad

Give it away give it away give it away now

Auf Der Martini (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:19 (one year ago) link

I really like Flea’s playing on higher ground, it sounds like he’s climbing a stairmaster

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:20 (one year ago) link

"Under the Bridge" is for sure about Shrek"
you're right. under sheck's bridge you find shrek's mud pool

CerebralCaustic, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 23:59 (one year ago) link


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