OMG! It's 9:30 AM And I'm Listening To Front 242!

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these guys are so cheesy and lightweight, but i like 'em

kephm, Monday, 27 September 2004 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link

OUT.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link

IT FLIES

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link

(Hearing them pounding through two, three-story high speaker stacks at Lollapalooza 1993 = anti-lightweight. I think they were even louder than Rage Against the Machine, which seems right and fair.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link

thesoreinmysoul
themarkinmyheart
heracidrain

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Dan, you are my angel.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The way the morning broke was quite unusual...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks, Dan, now I've got that stuck in my head... YOU CATCH THE MAN!!!! YOU CATCH THE MAN!!!

(Still, can't complain, it's better than still having What Katie Did jammed in there, argh.)

Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah i was there in 93. now and then i play them , but only '06:21:03:11 ', which is more pop than industrial. still they have that euro dance cheesiness to them, in my mind at least

xpost

kephm, Monday, 27 September 2004 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link

the thing i was listening to was Politics Of Pressure. Still sounds cool to me. Wish I had some Pankow around the house.

I opted to not partake in any Morrissey this morning. It's too sunny outside. Instead I put on a good Current 93 mix tape that someone from the old Swans e-mail list was kind enough to tape me years ago. (Thanks, Bradley Bee!)

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link

are you able to follow........the Red Team?

zappi (joni), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Weird. Twas thinking about started a thread about these guys.

A friend in high school made me a mixtape containing two of their records that I used to play incessantly, back right after I'd gotten into NIN. No idea where the tape is now. Don't know whether or not I'd even want to hear it, because the friend who made the tape (and was also HUGE into Enigma and Lords Of Acid) killed himself senior year.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Am I the only person on ILm who likes stuff that Metropolis records puts out? Besides Chuck. Like, Assemblage 23. But not KMFDM for some reason. I don't know why I never really liked them.

I just got the best (to me and probably no one else that i can think of) album of sad-boy light industrial new wave rock the other day and you'll never guess who put it out. Equal Vision. The punk label. I'm digging it. Some of it sounds like hurting-era TFF. The band has a horrible noo-metal name though: Codeseven. (Dancing Echoes/Dead Sounds is the album)

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I just found Scorn's Vae Solis album on tape. I might have to play that next.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

The only KMFDM album you really need is _Don't Blow Your Top_. "Disgust" is essential.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

This has a nice article on the band, but you have to speak Dutch. You can also listen to some of the tracks. Best Belgian band evah, right after dEUS. ;-)

jesus nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

My wife just happens to be a Dutch translator. So, noooooo problem.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link

And Maria loooooooves Deus to death.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Speaking of which, did anyone bother to check out the Front's come-back album, that came out last year?

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Didn't even know they had one!

Dan correct about KMFDM though I have all the albums through Money (after that, nothing changes...ever). A good singles comp would work, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link

scott, you are not alone. i even go the shows, well covenant & apoptygma bzrk at least

kephm, Monday, 27 September 2004 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

hey Ned, do you want this tape i just found. I'm slowly making you a care-package and i can include it. It's kinda dumb though. And you might have all the songs:

Track Listing:

Cadillacs - Hey Bob E Re Bob
Ron Moody & The Centaurs - The New Breed
Googie Rene - Look At Your Girl
Karen Kelly - Susie's Toys
The Sherrys - Pop Pop Pop-Pie
The Pipe Dream - Mrs.Brown's Limousine
Phil McLean - Small Sad Sam
The Electric Junkyard - L.David Sloane
Dave Clark Five - All Night Long
The Hollies - All The World Is Love
Cook E. Jarr - Red Balloon
Dolphin - Let's Get Together
Dyke & The Blazers - Shotgun Slim
Leslie Gore - Off & Running
Ben Peters - Downtown U.S.A.
Willie White - 99 Beef Steaks
The Continental Cousins - Dang Dang
Bill Dana - Teenage Problems
The Caravelli Orchestra - Wig Wam
Barrabas - Mr.Money
Flash & The Pan - Hey St.Peter
The Enoch Light Singers - Hello, I Love You
Ramos - Housebroken
Junior Mance - Maria
Mantronix - Scream
Buffy St.Marie - Cod'ine
Monie Love - I'll Drive You Crazy
Etoile De Dakar - Jalo

I don't know what possessed me to put Mantronix & Ramos on the tape. I musta been drunk. I don't even think I made this tape for maria even though there is one of those obligatory name-check songs on it. And Cod'ine is such a dusty warhorse. And you probably don't even have a tape-deck anymore. Anyway, lemme know.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the one Apoptygma album I have, kephm. It's Harmonizer. I haven't heard anything else though.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link

OKAY, here is my REAL question of the day: I just found a sealed cassette copy of Deelite's Dewdrops In The Garden. Should I open it and play it? I've never heard it before. I loved the debut. But something has obviously kept me from opening it. Maybe it would be bad luck for me to finally hear it. Is it the lost psychedelic dance music gem that I have been waiting my whole life to hear? Or, um, not.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link

In what strange bizarro world is _05:22:09:12 Off_ a difficult record??? It's probably the most pop thing they've put out barring _Front To Front_!!!

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link

And you probably don't even have a tape-deck anymore.

Actually, I do. Send it along if you like! Thanks!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link

their album from last year wasn't that great. the headhunter remix album makes me cringe thinking about it.

i went on a 242 downloading spree on the *gulp* gothic.industrial.mp3 newsgroup. someone posted more-or-less everything.

tho - seriously get the Geography 2xcd release. has allsorts of goodies on it - pre 242 tracks, odd versions and unreleased early tracks. it's fantastic.

they were fantastic live in 89. and can i get any takers for signed front by front and back catalogue cd's ? can i heck. best not mention the nitzer ebb...

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Monday, 27 September 2004 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link

hey, that geography thing sounds cool. i will look for it. thanks, FB.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG have we found the worst album cover of all time???!
http://images.google.com/images?q=06%3A21%3A03%3A11%20Up%20Evil&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
someone please post it to thread so we can witness the hideosity!

Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Dan - re: KMFDM - what about "Liebeslied" ?

Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I always forget "Liebeslied" exists. This is reminding me that I REALLY need to copy _Naive_ from someone.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Haven't listened to Front 242 since Fuck Up Evil and Evil Off came out, which I both liked. This thread is really making me want to hear them again, but I don't know if I want to go through all the trouble of digging the tapes up.

Scott I haven't listened to Dewdrops In The Garden for ages, but I remember really liking it, especially after their disapointing 2nd album. I say open it!

Seb (Seb), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link

_Evil Off_ is such a great album.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I always forget "Liebeslied" exists. This is reminding me that I REALLY need to copy _Naive_ from someone.

Yes you do. Especially someone who has the original pressing with all the samples that were later removed. I wonder who that person could be.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

not listened to naive for years. crikey.

oh, and stirmonster to thread

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG! It's 4:30 PM And I'm Listening To The Cranes!

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Yay! New album's great.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 September 2004 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link

really. a new album? i'm listening to my dusty tape of the first album. which i guess i gotta say i like more than the other Cranes I have had and heard. But i do like some of the other ones too.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Switched off after the dire "Population 4" but have to admit that Ned's AMG review got me interested in "Future Songs"

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:02 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG! It's 5:03 pm and I'm Listening to the Geto Boys!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link

hahaha! how often does that happen?

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG! It's 11:08 and I'm listening to Current 93/ HÖH's "Island"!!!

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG it's 511 and i am listening to a cranes bootleg.
does she play any guitar on the new one?

kephm, Monday, 27 September 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

hahaha! how often does that happen?

the words "blue" and "moon" spring to mind.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

that current 93 tape i was listening to today was sounding good. i like that one song where someone is singing "na na na na na na na na hey hey goodbye" in the background.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG! It's 5:10 and I'm listening to Mahler 8!

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I was listening to mahler the other day! I don't remember what time it was though.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd forgotten how demented 'The Fall of Christopher Robbins' was..

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:21 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG it's 5:26 and I'm listening to "Metal Box"! For the first time ever!

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a second live DVD, came out last year apparently. I had no idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPInPCw4h-o

StanM, Saturday, 9 April 2011 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

OMG! It's 1:23 PM and I'm listening to Front Line Assembly!

chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Monday, 28 April 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link

nine months pass...

its 18:40, i have had a couple of glasses of "it's the weekend" treats, and i am listening to my newly re-ripped @ 256 front 242 UP EVIL album.

it is, quite frankly, sounding f*cking brilliant.

mark e, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

it's 19:57 and i am listening to front 242.

i often forget just how brilliant this band were ..

mark e, Saturday, 13 June 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link

reasons i love ilm part 463

OMG! Guys, sit down... It's 2:48 and I've just discovered that the guy who distributes the internal mail for the last few years is... Richard 23!!!!!!!!

mark e, Saturday, 13 June 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Geography, y'all

welltris (crüt), Monday, 17 August 2015 13:08 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

They celebrated their 35th birthday last year by releasing loads different versions of these three remasters, including these super deluxe box sets:

http://alfa-matrix-store.com/Front-242/front-242-filtered-pulse-anniversary-box (including live show from 1989)

http://alfa-matrix-store.com/Front-242/front-242-geography-deluxe-box-vinyl-7inch

http://alfa-matrix-store.com/Front-242/front-242-no-comment-politics-of-pressure-boxset (including live show from 1987) (and No Comment sounds fantastic)

StanM, Friday, 10 February 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link

Attention DJP...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 February 2017 20:14 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

They're on tour in the US right now! http://www.front242.com/live.html

(without Daniel B who is 66, he's not out of the band, just not touring anymore - the rest are 58-64) and they're even playing a couple of new songs! (first one is Funkhadafi/Generator (new) )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQuXmCdsVW4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuNZieQdGLo

StanM, Friday, 1 October 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link

I caught the Philly show a couple weeks ago and had a lot of fun though the specter of COVID seemed to take the wind out of really enjoying myself.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 1 October 2021 16:27 (two years ago) link

Just need to stop in from vacation and say that “Pan Dhemihk” from Pulse (2003) is mind-blowing.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Sunday, 3 October 2021 21:10 (two years ago) link

What’s a good place to start with these guys if I love the funkiness?

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Sunday, 3 October 2021 23:00 (two years ago) link

Just listen to their big three albums: Official Version, Front By Front and Tyranny For You, plus the Backcatalogue compilation. That's all you need.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 3 October 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link

Every once in a while I remember that Front 242 had an album named "06:21:03:11 Up Evil", and I think what an innocent time it still was in 1993.
When "Closer" by NIN started getting major radio play a few months later, they must have realized their album might have done better if they'd just spelled it out.

enochroot, Sunday, 3 October 2021 23:28 (two years ago) link

Utilising a simple alphanumeric conversion from numbers to letters, i.e. 1=A, 2=B, 3=C, ..., 26=Z, the title can be interpreted as:

06 = F
21 = U
03 = C
11 = K
Which gives a full album title of Fuck Up Evil.


Huh.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Sunday, 3 October 2021 23:35 (two years ago) link

i think "No Comment" and "Geography" are the ones with the most funk, "Politics Of Pressure" EP too. For me, by the time it got to "Tyranny For You" they had programmed all the funk out of the music.

I had tickets to see them in March 2020 which has been rescheduled and rescheduled. Now looking like being Feb 2022.

stirmonster, Sunday, 3 October 2021 23:49 (two years ago) link

If not for Covid and a vacation I would probably catch this tour.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 4 October 2021 00:09 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.front242.com/store/p90/USA_91_DIGIPAK_CD.html Live in the USA 1991, released last year

StanM, Sunday, 27 March 2022 15:06 (two years ago) link

oh, and there was a live in Europe 2LP too - sold out by now

https://www.front242.com/store/p91/91_DOUBLE_LP_BOX.html

StanM, Sunday, 27 March 2022 15:10 (two years ago) link

both are great btw

StanM, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 06:29 (two years ago) link

They really know how to put on a show

paolo, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 07:32 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

40th anniversary show in July - they got the whole crew out this time, even Daniel B back on stage, how long ago was that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAt4Czl6bsI

StanM, Saturday, 20 August 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

keep watching until the end of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPSwGj45gxM

StanM, Saturday, 20 August 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

last time i saw them was on the 'front by front' tour in 1988 - i went to see them at the ancienne belgique in brussels. i thought that could never be beaten but have watched this recent AB gig and it is up there. such a great show! such a great set list! i'm still getting over the fact i had to give away my ticket as i had to work the night they played glasgow a few weeks ago. hopefully they will be back sooner than last time as i don't think i'm going to make waiting another 34 years.

stirmonster, Sunday, 21 August 2022 04:23 (one year ago) link

i think it ain't just!

stirmonster, Sunday, 21 August 2022 04:24 (one year ago) link

xxpost: that was a live version of Controversy Between where they start fighting at the end. was online for years and the second I link to it it gets set to private. Thanks.

StanM, Sunday, 21 August 2022 06:41 (one year ago) link

it's a classic. i can never get over how young Jean-Luc De Meyer is there.

this should work -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxvgCc91J_I

stirmonster, Sunday, 21 August 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link

this thread led me down the Bandcamp rabbit hole, those remasters sound sweet

thinkmanship (sleeve), Sunday, 21 August 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link

thanks! xpost

StanM, Monday, 22 August 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link

https://alfamatrix.bandcamp.com/album/ancienne-belgique-89-front-by-front

woah! this is the one i was at. so it was '89, not 88! i can still vividly remember losing my shit to lots of this and then to the nth degree when they played "WYHIWYG / U-men".

stirmonster, Monday, 22 August 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

I listened to 06:21:03:11 UP EVIL, one of their two albums from 1993, this morning. I don't think I'd heard it since it was new. It was pretty good! They were trying a little too hard to write "real songs," and the guitars seemed unnecessary (as they always did when anybody but Ministry used them), but overall pretty solid stuff.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 26 August 2022 12:47 (one year ago) link

I listened to 06:21:03:11 UP EVIL, one of their two albums from 1993, this morning. I don't think I'd heard it since it was new. It was pretty good! They were trying a little too hard to write "real songs," and the guitars seemed unnecessary (as they always did when anybody but Ministry used them), but overall pretty solid stuff.

agreed. of the 2 albums, these days i listen to OFF a lot more than EVIL.
seemed to remember that OFF was billed as a more ambient album, which i guess is true.

mark e, Friday, 26 August 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

I couldn’t find any posts on ILM about graphic novels about particular scenes or music subcultures, and this one goes across way too many bands, but this post has seen some recent action, so here we go!: my old pen pal Tomas has just published the English edition of the best graphic novel ever written about being a synth-obsessed teen in Sweden in the 80s/ 90s!

Richard 23 even contributed a jacket blurb!

https://synth-kids.com/images/ministry.jpg

More info here: https://synth-kids.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFzT1L0Faos

christopher.ivan, Saturday, 27 August 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

due to this thread revive, i am currently loving the M✧✧@g✧.M✧✧@ge release.
possibly the first time i have heard this to the end in well over a decade, and yeah, it's not really a F242 release at all, but an excellent mixtape of underworld/orb/prodigy enhanced 90s ambient techno.

other than Pulse (which i seem to recall not being well received by fans at the time), and the never ending live albums,
have the band actually recorded any new material since the era of UP EVIL/OFF + eps/remixes excess ?

mark e, Thursday, 22 September 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

guess the use of the 'at' symbol caused trouble.
of course i meant 'mutage.mixage'.

mark e, Thursday, 22 September 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

it's 2:41 pm and i'm listening to front 242!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwMdpDsaqW4

scott seward, Thursday, 28 September 2023 18:41 (six months ago) link

i can't believe i started this thread before there was a youtube!

scott seward, Thursday, 28 September 2023 18:44 (six months ago) link

four months pass...

Front 242 have just announced that they'll stop touring after this year. Final dates here...

https://www.instagram.com/p/C3w0JeJNjBZ/?igsh=cWh5MGFpeW14dWd4

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Sunday, 25 February 2024 13:54 (one month ago) link

rest in peace, brave warriors. your work is done. we salute you.

scott seward, Sunday, 25 February 2024 15:12 (one month ago) link

there should be an old industrial musician home that people can go to.

scott seward, Sunday, 25 February 2024 15:12 (one month ago) link


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