Gravediggaz' "6 Ft Deep" is the best album I've heard this year

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I remember when this was called "Niggamortis".

Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 02:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahaha! Yeah!

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 02:56 (nineteen years ago) link

That was the UK title.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 02:57 (nineteen years ago) link

the best horror rap album ever

peter $,.., Tuesday, 21 September 2004 03:01 (nineteen years ago) link

whew the competiton for that honor was FIERCE

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 03:03 (nineteen years ago) link

NO LOVE 4 NECRO?

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link

haha not that I've ever heard more than two songs by him

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 03:05 (nineteen years ago) link

"I Love Drugs" made me laugh.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 03:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's classic, in my opinion it's the best Wu record ever and the best rap LP of the nineties too. Admittedly, the only Wu connection is RZA, but it *does* sound like a updated, more edgy version of "36 Chambers".

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, wasn't Masta Killa on it too? And Killah Priest?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:01 (nineteen years ago) link

who's the Gravedigga that has that has that line about "Fat Ned, scheming on a blowjob from a crackhead"? Whoever he is, he's one of the best MCs I've heard.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Dan Perry?

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:09 (nineteen years ago) link

If memory serves me right, I think it's RZA. I could be wrong though.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:11 (nineteen years ago) link

RZA (as an mc) sounds totally different here than he does on later stuff, doesn't he? A lot gruffer.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:14 (nineteen years ago) link

No, I'm sorry, it isn't RZA, it's one of the other two, can't remember which one.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, I listened to the song, and I think the one saying that line is the Grym Reaper. His flow was indeed brilliant and original, it's sad he isn't amongst us anymore. RIP.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 05:26 (nineteen years ago) link

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Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 05:31 (nineteen years ago) link

the best horror rap album ever

"NIGHTMARE ON MY STREET," BITCHEZ!!!!!

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 06:14 (nineteen years ago) link

oh come on that's like the Casper the friendly Ghost of horror rap

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 06:17 (nineteen years ago) link

FP: Oh man, I gotta call Jeff, I gotta call Jeff Come on, come on Come on Jeff, answer Come on, man
JJ: Hello?
FP: Jeff, this is Prince, man Jeff, wake up, Jeff, wake up
JJ: What do you want?
FP: Jeff, wake up, man, listen to me, Jeff
JJ: It's three o'clock in the morning, what do you want?
FP: Jeff, Jeff, would you listen to me? Listen, whatever you do, don't fall asleep
JJ: Man
FP: Jeff, listen to me, don't go to sleep, Jeff
JJ: look, I'll talk to you tomorrow, I'm gong to bed Ahhhhhh! Ahhhhhh!
Freddy: Ha ha ha ha ha haaaa
FP: Jeff! Jeff! Jeff! Jeff! Answer me, Jeff!
Freddy: I'm your D.J. now, Princey! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaa

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 06:56 (nineteen years ago) link

it's still classic of course

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 07:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Gravediggaz' 6 Ft Deep was the last rap LP I ever bought. Well, not last EVER - just the last one I bought upon release. I've bought many since then, but all from '93 or earlier. The only track that really stood out was the scarifying "Defective Trip".

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 08:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Naah, stand out track is "Bang Your Head" - if only for the surging synth.

Jedmond (Jedmond), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 08:05 (nineteen years ago) link

what i particularly love about 6 Ft Deep is that it's not actually very dark at all! all the goth stuff is completely schlocky and goofy, the songs are all instantly catchy and full of hooks, it's basically a party album. one of the most 'fun' rap albums ever.

xpost OTM 'bang yr head' is def my favourite these days!

pete b. (pete b.), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 08:08 (nineteen years ago) link

i a;so saw gravediggaz live live at the strangest place - 11am on the main stage at reading festival. completely out of place, but i rememebr it being pretty decent, esp bang your head

Robin Goad (rgoad), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 08:42 (nineteen years ago) link

If I was voting in the poll, this would be like, no.3.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 09:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Niggamortis is a better title.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 10:03 (nineteen years ago) link

pete b pretty much otm. a classic.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 10:16 (nineteen years ago) link

UK TITLE FOREVA, MOTHERFUKKERS

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 10:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Absolutely. Can we get a photo?

briania (briania), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 11:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I was invoked above. Sort of, in a way.

Great album, been a while since I listened to it I admit.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 11:59 (nineteen years ago) link

"schemin' on a blowjob" line is from Killah Priest...as good as he is, I still think RZA steals the show - especially his hectic verse on "Trippin'"

Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think Bob Digi gets enough props as a rapper.

briania (briania), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link

That is Killah Priest?!!? Really?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link

no it's not, it's grym reaper!

pete b. (pete b.), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link

And the Grym Reaper is Frukwan or someone, right?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 14:35 (nineteen years ago) link

those Gravediggaz nicknames in full!

2 Poetic - The Grym Reaper
Frukwan - The Gatekeeper
RZA - The RZArector (do you see?!)
Prince Paul - The Undertaker

pete b. (pete b.), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link

i liked the clean version better (maybe the only hip-hop album where that is so), since nearly every line has a weird sound effect over the no-no's (gun click, shovel, cough, knife sharpened, scream, splat, etc.) giving it a whole other level of noise.

BbetaA, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

This was one of the first albums I ever listened to ON WEED. It was PERFECT.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link

GREAT. GREAT. GREAT.

1-800-suicide PWNZ.

ddb (ddb), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 17:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Too Poetic does the verse with "Old fat Ned, schemin' on a blow job from a crackhead". Dude had some of the best vocal inflections I've ever heard. Very creative.

His verse on "Mommy, What's A Gravedigga? (RZA Full Mix)" is fucking awesome. Like the part where he goes "You was washed in the blooooooooooooooooooooood of a lamb to be cleansed!" is cool.

Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG somebody needs to do a mashup of Gravediggaz and Screamin' Jay Hawkins.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link

ah, I stand corrected...it's been a long time, must break that one out today

Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Too Poetic is the one who was in Stetsasonic, right?

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Prince Paul and Frukwan were both in Stetsasonic. Not Too Poetic.

Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link

horror rap was pretty big a while back, and the competition isn't throwaway, oops. brutha lynch hung, dr. octagon (second prize), that one rapper from detroit... ICP . . . tech n9ne just had the cover of murderdog. anyway, dr octagon wasn't bad.

peter $.., Wednesday, 22 September 2004 00:38 (nineteen years ago) link

dr. octagon is in no way horror rap. skitzo rap, yes.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link

but yeah, i don't know how i overlooked the genius of that one rapper from detroit.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link

esham?

Matt B. (Matt B.), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 11:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Pre-fame Kid Rock?

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah i wouldn't change a thing about this record its perfect

ciderpress, Friday, 9 August 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link

I so loved this one at the time and 1-800 Suicide is a stone cold classic, where the fuck does 25 years go so fast?

calzino, Friday, 9 August 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link

During one of the roughest, most hopeless nights of my life, I got cute with myself and decided to listen to "1-800-SUICIDE" again. Uh, that was a bad idea. The sound of that sampled laughing became the sound of everyone who ever wanted anyone to kill themselves, ironically or not. Their voices became the sound of me laughing at my own pointless self-pitying, unable to escape the pointlessness, hating myself more and more for thinking what I was thinking what I was thinking. "You don't even HAVE any REAL problems, you fucking loser." Not exactly a helpful mindset to be in when you want to get out of that mindset.

I liked it when I first heard it, but the friend who played it for me the first time twenty years ago turned out to be a giant asshole, anyway. Dickwads like Tyler the Creator probably jack off to it.

Gimme Liquid Swords instead, that at least has your back.

del griffith, Friday, 9 August 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link

yeah, I've never understood the appeal of this album. even at the time I didn't like it.

Οὖτις, Friday, 9 August 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link

really good production by Prince Paul is the appeal

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 9 August 2019 22:11 (four years ago) link

it does sound pretty neat on the ol' ears, that's true

del griffith, Friday, 9 August 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link

lol, you don't half get some convoluted bollox on ilm!

calzino, Friday, 9 August 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link

Paul can be a bit much (Psychoanalysis, for ex.) Love Prince Among Thieves tho, that's an underrated masterpiece

Οὖτις, Friday, 9 August 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link

fine album is it, not listened in years like.

calzino, Friday, 9 August 2019 22:18 (four years ago) link

this is a great album. bang your head is prob my fave track on it too.

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 9 August 2019 22:20 (four years ago) link

never understood why shakey doesnt like this

big city slam (Spottie), Friday, 9 August 2019 22:23 (four years ago) link

it's true, it seems like the kind of thing I would dig, but somehow the lyrical approach is just off-putting to me. It's not funny enough to be taken as a joke, but taking it seriously just seems sad and morbid

Οὖτις, Friday, 9 August 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link

i think it's pretty silly! and the production helps aid the silliness in a lot of instances.

big city slam (Spottie), Friday, 9 August 2019 23:43 (four years ago) link

You can't come back
No matter what you do when you fall in a death trap

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 August 2019 02:24 (four years ago) link

I bought this album while I was part of a car pool to work. She usually slept on the drive.

And when my passenger heard "other rappers are flatter than a white girl's butt" she woke up briefly and said "he ain't wrong".

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 August 2019 02:25 (four years ago) link

GUILTY

j., Saturday, 10 August 2019 02:39 (four years ago) link

Suicide it's a suicide

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 August 2019 02:57 (four years ago) link

Shit i hadn't seen del griffith's post. Sorry :(

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 August 2019 02:58 (four years ago) link

Wanna see something that'll make you sick?
Stand in front of jets on the Gaza strip

☮ (peace, man), Saturday, 10 August 2019 12:28 (four years ago) link

Hilarious!

Οὖτις, Saturday, 10 August 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link

no problem, i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward aka Neanderthal, I forgive you.

del griffith, Saturday, 10 August 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link

Paul can be a bit much (Psychoanalysis, for ex.) Love Prince Among Thieves tho, that's an underrated masterpiece

He's pretty reined-in on 6 Ft Deep, this is about as close to straight-forward hip hop as he got.
Agreed on Prince Among Theives!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link

This album is a masterwork

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 12 August 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link

It sure is

calzino, Monday, 12 August 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link

I can remember being so sorely disappointed with the follow up, from a period when RZA was doing a few albums a week and somewhat spreading himself thinly. I can't remember if Prince Paul even had much input and didn't the gatekeeper die between albums? it wasn't particularly terrible - but the magic had gone.

calzino, Monday, 12 August 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link

Grym Reaper (Poetic) died, but that was after the second album. I never heard the third one.

☮ (peace, man), Monday, 12 August 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

ah, relying my dodgy old memory here.

calzino, Monday, 12 August 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link

def a let down but there's 4-5 tracks on it i really love.

big city slam (Spottie), Monday, 12 August 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

Back in the days of Lee's and BVD's
I grew up deceived, by wicked enemies
My lifespan began to dim in the error
When you can't even trust the man in the mirror
Now Gravedigga n****z receive my trust
and like Christ, we walk among the thieves and the sluts
I bring stress like skins on PMS
The street's a bloody mess, there ain't no EMF
in sight my thoughts are to leave the slums
I hustle with beats and drums not keys and guns
My feet are numb, as I walk my dogs
I cut off the fogs with the Gravedigga swords
Life parole, as me and my man is violated
Hookers are neutered and spay-ted
Snakes are decapitated, and castrated
N****z is lost your whole Ark is bein raided
Shows today are hectic, n****z'll wreck shit
Lift off rounds and jet quick
This piece is gettin heated
Cause a rush, a stampedin
Devils are all defeated by the blood brothers

they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 January 2022 03:53 (two years ago) link

N****z

JackMyFruit, Thursday, 20 January 2022 05:55 (two years ago) link

why are you here, again?

they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 January 2022 06:03 (two years ago) link

Damn good question

JackMyFruit, Thursday, 20 January 2022 06:07 (two years ago) link

I grew up deceived, by wicked enemies

JackMyFruit, Thursday, 20 January 2022 06:08 (two years ago) link

well kindly licky deez

they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 January 2022 06:13 (two years ago) link

^another defeated devil

JackMyFruit, Thursday, 20 January 2022 06:14 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

i be that sick lunatic with a devilish poem

is a great rza line

Heez, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 14:00 (five months ago) link

it's that time of year again

Left, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 14:20 (five months ago) link

I am always impressed by how well integrated the album's "true horror" elements are within the fun/camp/parody framework of the whole thing - reality keeps intruding into these songs in a subtle but persistent way which feels more horror than comedy-horror - sometimes the comedy elements are the point but other times they feel more like tools for getting to a deeper darker place

Left, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 15:08 (five months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9yIGeBPnyE

omar little, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 16:14 (five months ago) link

that KRS1 sample in 1 800 Suicide still sounds great. I was so in love with this album that I tried really hard to love their 2nd one as well and it just never landed with me.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 16:16 (five months ago) link

BLOOD
BROTHERS
ALL IN TOGETHER

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 16:59 (five months ago) link


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