Goddamnit ILM, talk about Eamon! Eamon: C or D?

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I swear to you, on one of the verses I'm pretty sure he says something like "I'm sorry I was dating a whore" which is just like, what? I'm completely unconvinced this is serious, wtf?

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 4 February 2004 14:50 (twenty years ago) link

I'm sorry he was dating a whore too

― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 14:56 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not. If it results in a song and video as funny as this one, he should exclusively date whores.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 4 February 2004 14:57 (twenty years ago) link

I'm glad I found this thread. I saw a video for this on MTV2 this-morning while trying to convince myself to go to work, and I really couldn't tell if it was a joke (by which I mean an intentional joke) or not. Now I'm just convinced that he either has some truly serious dirt on someone or just stuck a truckload of horses heads in various music industy execs beds.

― mmmmsalt (Graeme), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 17:55 (twenty years ago) link

It's catchy, his voice is pretty sweet and the chorus includes the line, "Fuck you, you ho." Gotta be a classic.

― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Thursday, 5 February 2004 02:51 (twenty years ago) link

Lazy ass songwriting. Kisses that "don't mean shit" in one line "don't mean jack" in another (you know, so he can rhyme it with "don't want you back.") And the video is obnoxious. Dud.

― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Thursday, 5 February 2004 02:53 (twenty years ago) link

HAW HAW HAW I WAS RIGHT ALLLL ALONGGGGG. THIS SONG IS FUCKING HIIIIIILARIOUS. I MEAN SERRYUSSLY this is not a joke. God help me THIS SONG IS NOT A FUCKING JOKE. What the fuck? Staten Island whitey gets to scream I WAS DATING A HO and he gets a top 40 hit? What the serious fuck.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 5 February 2004 07:05 (twenty years ago) link

I'm so glad this will be on my permanent record as a Pazz'n'Jop Top Ten single for 2003. I beat the bell curve yo.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 5 February 2004 07:06 (twenty years ago) link

oh man. seriously if you ever find out how yer dating a ho what you gotta do is take her to an outdoor pizza bistro. Then RIGHT when the pepperoni arrives you start ripping into her and then around the third verse you just fah-LING that pizza across the place cuz GAWDAMN if it ain't bad enuff you caught her cheating now she's gonna know that she's not gonna have any pizza. This video is some sorta gospel. TAKE NOTES.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 5 February 2004 07:26 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not that into it. Sorry.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 February 2004 07:29 (twenty years ago) link

the important thing is that you tried.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 5 February 2004 07:32 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...

So has anyone else heard the album? I'm listening for the first time right now and so far it's about half really great and half pretty bland.

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Sunday, 7 March 2004 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

i kept hearing about a response record by some girl supposedly the original song was written about called "fuck you back". forget who it's by though

― JaXoN (JasonD), Sunday, 7 March 2004 23:51 (twenty years ago) link

"Fuck You Right Back" by Frankee (or Frankie) is hitting the airwaves big time around here. it's a pretty funny response, lines like "your sex was wack / fuck you right back" and the like. though i'm sure it will lose its flavor even faster than the Eamon original.

― jonviachicago, Sunday, 7 March 2004 23:57 (twenty years ago) link

The video is pure comedy. It scans kind of like the consolation prize to the first runner-up at the Color Me Badd auditions.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

'the video gives you a visual picture of what he is talking about in 'F**k It''

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:03 (twenty years ago) link

this is terrible.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:18 (twenty years ago) link

The song is terrible but I do like it in a "watching a car crash into a pile of dead babies" way.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

two songs on this album are the first guilty pleasures ive had in years! he's like a more annoying 4th singing beastie boy and yet those catchy ho-wop melodies mean i keep putting those mp3s ('i'd rather fuck with you' and 'get off my dick' to be specific) back in the queue :/

― jeremy jordan (cruisy), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:24 (twenty years ago) link

To me, that single sounds exactly like Leo Sayer. This is a criticism.

― All Bunged Up. (Jake Proudlock), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:25 (twenty years ago) link

haha eamon is the first TRUE emo-"rap" star (in the nu-emo sense). mmmm passive-aggressive misogyny.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:41 (twenty years ago) link

seriously aside from the obvious musical/sonic strictures imposed by individual genres (and the attendant cultural baggage [practice lookin hard vs. precious moments eyeballs]) please tell me how this bullshit differs from dashboard confessional

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:42 (twenty years ago) link

(aside from the fact that i'd rather have sizzling hot needles inserted into my urethra than listen to d.c. ever again, and eamon just kinda bugs me.)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 March 2004 00:46 (twenty years ago) link

I'm yet to hear a NORE/DC collabo.

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:07 (twenty years ago) link

I'm=I've

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:07 (twenty years ago) link

But how is passive-agressive misogyny new to R&B?

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:08 (twenty years ago) link

mmmm it's not obv, but there's just something about this guy that screams EMO at me.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:11 (twenty years ago) link

maybe its the name (haw haw)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:11 (twenty years ago) link

His whiteness?

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:12 (twenty years ago) link

Haha

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:12 (twenty years ago) link

haha colin shhh dont point at the elephant

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:12 (twenty years ago) link

He's like Cody Chesnutt without the sense of humor, which probably doesn't sound like an endorsment. I'm pretty indiscriminating when it comes to R&B.

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:17 (twenty years ago) link

i really, really, REALLY react badly to even the hint of possible not-really-meaning-it in R&B.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

r. kelly gets away with it because he always looks like the ridiculousness spilling out of his mouth is DEATHLY SERIOUS.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:20 (twenty years ago) link

Eamon means it!

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:21 (twenty years ago) link

r. dresses like a big gay zorro and yet has this face on that's like jake lamotta's at the end of raging bull

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:21 (twenty years ago) link

R. means it too! Which is why he's the greatest thing in the world, instead of the worst.

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:22 (twenty years ago) link

I didn't mean to invoke "World's Greatest"

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:22 (twenty years ago) link

the problem with eamon is his terrible voice!!

― jeremy jordan (cruisy), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:22 (twenty years ago) link

also: his sucking.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:23 (twenty years ago) link

He went to my high school. My sister knew him. Said we was a loser.

Wifey thinks the song is funny (we live in Staten Island). I just think it sucks

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

I don't doubt that this fuckwit "means it", but I doubt he's thinking through what he's saying, which is the BIG problem I have w/ most "emo" type things - it's said (or trying to be said) at The Moment when The Pain hits. Bully for Eamon / DC / Death Cab / Limp Bizkit / etc. for getting this shit off the chest, but fuck off for thinking I'd want to hear this sort of nonsense more than once. If I actually stood behind EVERYTHING I spouted off when I was really pissed off at anything, I'd sound like a raving lunatic. Things "of the moment" should undoubtedly stay "of the moment".

And those damn feminine "ooooh oooh" backing vocals - oh, it's IRONIC that there's a girl backing his mealy mouthed asscrap up. Gawrsh.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:37 (twenty years ago) link

yeah this is crap but it's entertaining. like if you took a dump and then looked down for the post-dump evaluation and eminem was on it, or if it started singing "there's NO business like SHOW business."

or if it said "fuck you you ho"

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:45 (twenty years ago) link

matt have i told you lately that i love you?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 March 2004 01:50 (twenty years ago) link

The rebuttal:

Lyrics:

Oh oh
oooh
no no no

(You know there's two sides to every story)

See I don't know why you cryin' like a bitch
talkin' shit like a snitch
why you write a song 'bout me
if you really didn't care
you wouldn't wanna share
tellin' everybody just how you feel

CHORUS
fuck What I did, was your fault somehow
fuck the presents, I threw all that shit out
don't go cryin' you didn't mean jack
well guess what yo, fuck you right back

What I did was your fault somehow
the presents,I threw all that shit out
don't go cryin' you didn't mean jack
well guess what your,fuck you right back

You thought you could really make me moan
I had better sex all along (ha ha ha ha)
I had to do your friend
now you want me to come back
you must be smokin' crack
Im goin' else where and thats a fact

Fuck all those nights I moaned real loud
fuck it, I faked it, aren't you proud?
fuck all those nights you thought you broke my back
well guess what your,your sex was wack

Fuck all those nights I moaned real loud
fuck it,I faked it,i'll rent you out
fuck all those nights you thought you broke my back
well guess what your,your sex was wack

whoa whoa
uh uh yea

You questioned did I care
maybe I would howl if you wanna come to me
now it's over
but I do admit i'm glad I didn't catch your crabs
I can't swear bad cause I got to go

CHORUS
fuck What I did, was your fault somehow
fuck the presents, I threw all that shit out
don't go cryin' you didn't mean jack
well guess what yo, fuck you right back

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 March 2004 02:00 (twenty years ago) link

Can we dial back to the Cold War and push the button now?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 8 March 2004 02:09 (twenty years ago) link

No, that would generalize the suffering. It must all be concentrated at this man's quivering body.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 March 2004 02:13 (twenty years ago) link

Dan, the blogger whose site I pulled those lyrics from suggested that Eamon retaliate with another track!

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 March 2004 02:14 (twenty years ago) link

I love that even the 'normal' parts of the lyrics come off as kind of bizarre, i.e. "I even said you were my great one".

apparently Eamon has a doo wop song called "Ho Wop", and when he was on TRL he wore a sweatshirt that said HO WOP on the front. I hope he at least becomes successful enough to ship his own line of Ho-Wop-A-Wear to retail.

― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 04:34 (twenty years ago) link

they both are ok i dont turn the radio up when they come off but i dont switch it. I got props for anyone making money. so frankee and eamon do yo thang
no need to hate money makers no matter how they do it

― lida truly, Friday, 12 March 2004 03:01 (twenty years ago) link

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I like the Frankee version even better than the Eamon one! But that doesn't mean that his version is terrible, it's a good song.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago) link

It is a good song, but I can't get past Eamon's noxious whine of a voice, it's grating in a horribly emo sort of way and reminds me of the dread Durst. Even if Frankee didn't exist I'd side with the girl in the Eamon song.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

I've never heard the reply song, but I immediately side with the girl, as Eamon is a whiney, potty-mouthed, inarticulate slackjaw.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 16 April 2004 16:08 (twenty years ago) link

Emonem!

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 16 April 2004 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

Anyone got any thoughts on this compared to Shysties version of / riposte to, Dizzee’s I Luv You? I think there should be more response songs in modern pop given how misogynistic and homophobic most of it inherently is.

― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Friday, 16 April 2004 23:31 (twenty years ago) link

I haven't heard the Frankee song yet. It got crazy hate on the local R&B station. There seems to be a lot of Eamon love in this town.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 17 April 2004 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link

The unironic kind, frighteningly enough.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 17 April 2004 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I think there should be more response songs in modern pop given how misogynistic and homophobic most of it inherently is.

True dat, but first there have to be more women and gay men in genres like hip-hop and garage to do the response songs. (And more love given to the ones who ARE there - I've only skimmed the grime thread, but Lady Fury is only mentioned like two or three times!) Shystie is wicked.

― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 17 April 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

This song is great.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 17 April 2004 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I heard the unedited version and it ruined the mystery for me.

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Saturday, 17 April 2004 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I love Eamon's release of F**k It (I don't want you back. Frankee copied his version! I'm not saying it's a shit reply coz her song is wicked, but Eamon just rules! I love him and so do all my mates. I love the way they have replied to each other, but is Eamon's song for Frankee? Apparently I heard it was fro another ex-girlfriend called Andrea? Is this right? Anyway Eamon's song is better - I love it and Frankee's song comes as a second in my personal chart at the moment!
Cara xx Love to all :P (I'm not a weirdo by the way lol!!)

― Cara, Friday, 23 April 2004 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Macho rubbish BUT the version sung by that bird is just the same (where she's telling a guy to get fucked) so maybe it's about time you had a song where a guy's telling some nasty lass to stick it.

― C-Man (C-Man), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

omg omg omg omg omg

so the new single is the opening track, "I Love Them."

Only he's added a word to the title (and chorus).

It's now "I Love Them Ho's."

The video is on launch.com.

omg.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 26 June 2004 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Milk Dee is prominently displayed in the video, you Audio Two fans.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 26 June 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

ok actually I just discovered that he didn't ADD the word "ho's" the promo copy I got when I reviewed this was clean so they had taken out the word "ho's" (what is up with that apostrophe?). For some reason they're keeping it now (at least on Launch). I really wish this was added after the fact.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 26 June 2004 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Revive, as I just got a copy of the album.
It's terrible in a fascinating way. As I listen to it, I can TELL I'll be tired of it in two days; but it's great for the moment.
Utterly disposable... just like he turned out to be.
Whence Eamon these days? Opening for William Hung?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Though truth be told, there may be a few keepers on here: "Fuck You" is still pretty tasty and I like "Get Off my Dick" and "Ho-Wop" enough that they may stay in rotation.
"Fuck You" seems like a likely OMGWTFLOL winner of the future.
Forget dub Hung, E. should be opening for Snow.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

I heard this blasting out of someone's car today.

Ho-wop lives on.

― !Alicia!, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 02:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, I cannot get it out of head.

― !Alicia!, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Er, my head.

― !Alicia!, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 02:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Fuck this song, I don't want it back.

― The Reverend, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 02:57 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Listening to "I Love Them Hos," "Over And Over" and "Fuck It." Miss this guy so much.

― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

#lostaughts

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

sometimes I worry about you, dc

― lift this towel, its just a nipple (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

</formericpfan>

― lift this towel, its just a nipple (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

"Over And Over" is actually called "On & On." It was recently sampled chipmunk-style by Flo Rida!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpP5-MN4lmw

awwwww yeah

― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

saw this the other day and it kinda gave me an Eamon vibe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SONDmIU2qp8

― Young (or Old); Attractive (or not); Receptionist (some dude), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

opening lyric: "girl I ain't nothin' but a low down fornicating thug"

― Young (or Old); Attractive (or not); Receptionist (some dude), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

ugh I just had the displeasure of hearing this goddamn song again this morning for the first time in 4 years! god I thought it was horrible when.

but whether or not the Frankee version was staged (uh, it totally was), some really lame disses throughout. She faked orgasms? OMG AN "EVERY WOMAN IN THE WORLD" SHOCKER. even my most recent ex admitted she did on occasion (but wouldn't tell me if she did with me, lol).

"What I did was your fault somehow"= I'M RIGHT BUT KANT BE BOTHERED TO COME UP WITH A SUPPORTING ARGUMENT SO LIKE FUK U...

lol at the "your sex was wack". i'd rather be told I sucked in bed by a female than be told nothing at all by a gym towel or a sock....

― Ballistic, Sunday, 7 March 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

"fuck What I did, it was your fault somehow" - this line made me totally hate frankee and decide eamon probably was right for calling her out as a ho. anyway i found this song mildly amusing when it came out, and i'm kinda getting nostalgic for it now. wonder if it's still on my hard drive somewhere? (probably not)

― messiahwannabe, Monday, 8 March 2010 12:06 (fourteen years ago) link

That's like getting nostalgic for having vomit and turds thrown at you.

― billstevejim, Monday, 8 March 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

ah, college

― Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Monday, 8 March 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link

oh, the rashes....

― Ballistic, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link

That's like getting nostalgic for having vomit and turds thrown at you.

aww, now you're making me remember the first time i saw gg allen, bless.

what, you guys never got screwed over by a ho and wanted to listen to a song that succinctly summed up your feelings for the bitch?

― messiahwannabe, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 10:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Wish Eamon could take Mark Linkous' place...

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link

what, you guys never got screwed over by a ho and wanted to listen to a song that succinctly summed up your feelings for the bitch?

never wanted to listen to a terrible, comical song about the experience, no

― we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

This shit feels like it came out centuries ago

― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 00:58 (four years ago) link

are there any stand-out songs from eamon's "late period"

― you know my name, look up the number of the beast (rushomancy), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 01:05 (four years ago) link

Genre: proto-Drake

― triggercut, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 01:34 (four years ago) link

whither ho-wop

― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 01:49 (four years ago) link

karaoke classic

― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:10 (four years ago) link

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