Ace Frehley - Back in the New York Groove classic or dud?

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I LOVE this song. Both versions. It just makes me feel great. I used to play the Hello version a lot when I used to dj, but I don't have the Frehley version 'cept on mp3; they're not that different.

Sean (Sean), Monday, 8 December 2003 20:41 (twenty years ago) link

Sub-mediocre to outright dud. Ace Frehley has always been a very boring fellow except within the context of Kiss. And then only
for a small number of records. Take away the Kiss connection and
the solo record was no more, no less interesting than any number
of miscellaneous hard guitarists or their bands' albums crowding
the delete bins in the 70's.

File with Les Dudek, Steve Hunter, Leslie West's "The Great Fatsby," Hookfoot, Black Sheep, Blackjack, the Good Rats sans the stupid puns and songs about sleeping with hundreds of boys, Trigger (also on Casablanca and, indeed, even superior to Ace solo)...

George Smith, Monday, 8 December 2003 22:19 (twenty years ago) link

The above poster hasn't heard the song, obv.

Sean (Sean), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:38 (twenty years ago) link

or is actually Peter Criss in disguise.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:58 (twenty years ago) link

Wait-the Good Rats had a song about sleeping with hundreds of boys?!?! I've gotta hear this! That song "Tasty" that they played on Connecticut FM radio throughout the 70s was pure torture, though.

I really don't remember anything from Ace's record or any of the other solo records, except "Back in the New York Groove" and it's as classic as anything Kiss ever did. I like Russ Ballard songs.

Arthur (Arthur), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:59 (twenty years ago) link

(anyway, proud this is on my '78 Go! disc)

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:59 (twenty years ago) link

Wait-the Good Rats had a song about sleeping with hundreds of boys?!?! I've gotta hear this! That song "Tasty" that they played on Connecticut FM radio throughout the 70s was pure torture, though.

Yes indeed! And it's on the ... Tasty album. [Rim shot.]

I really don't remember anything from Ace's record or any of the other solo records

See, famous journeyman 70's guitarist -- even with big name.

I like Russ Ballard songs.

Russ is cooler than Ace, proving what I've said on ILX previously -- Ace sort of has a little taste or can take good advice from colleagues and management. "Since You've Been Gone," however,
earned Ballard a lot more money and mileage than "Groove." And
I'll take Argent's catchy tunes over many allegedly catchy tunes
by Kiss -- solo or otherwise. Hmmm, Kiss even covered Argent,
one good song on an otherwise rotten album.

And, it's true, I'm Peter Criss incognito. They'd sacked me by then
and I'm still bitter.

George Smith, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 01:56 (twenty years ago) link

Russ is cooler than Ace,

Never in a million centuries.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 02:07 (twenty years ago) link

Russ is a better song writer that Ace...um, Maybe.
Russ is cooler than Ace...nope.

Your lightnin’s all I need
My satisfaction grows
You make me feel at ease
You even make me glow
Don’t cut the power on me
I’m feelin’ low, so get me high

Shock me, make me feel better
Shock me, put on your black leather
Shock me, we can come together

And baby, if you do what you’ve been told
My insulation’s gone, girl you make me overload

Don’t pull the plug on me, no, no
Keep it in and keep me high

Shock me, make me feel better
Shock me, put on your black leather
Shock me, we can come together
Come on

Shock me, baby, shock me, oh yeah
Shock me, baby, shock me, oh yeah

Shock me, make me feel better, oh yeah
Come on and shock me, put on your black leather
Baby, I’m down to the bare wire
Shock me, we can come together
Oh yeah, I wanna feel your power
Shock me, make me feel better
Baby, I’m down to the bare wire
Shock me, put on your black leather
Baby, come on, come on, shock me

I hate when somebody post an entire song, but Gawd How Great Is This?


Speedy Gonzalas (Speedy Gonzalas), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 09:19 (twenty years ago) link

The Red House Painters cover of "Shock Me" is fab.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 12:50 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...
Revive.


By far, without a doubt, an awesome song. I downloaded it mislabeled as being by the New York Dolls and I searched endlessly to find out who really did it and it was driving me nuts and it is easily the best thing any member of KISS has ever associated themselves with.

David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 9 April 2004 17:21 (twenty years ago) link

four years pass...

they are playing this on 6 music right now

caek, Sunday, 25 January 2009 11:25 (fifteen years ago) link

this fucking song is invincible

caek, Sunday, 25 January 2009 11:25 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

finally heard the original version of new york groove, by Hello

kinda digging it more cuzza the funky harmonica!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7XBDaodo1g

50.bison (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

Ace just doing what he has to do:

https://cortlandstandard.net/2019/10/02/area-man-directs-lost-kiss-guitarist-to-gig/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 October 2019 04:07 (four years ago) link

amazing

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 October 2019 22:50 (four years ago) link

I'm sure that Ace has gotten lost a few times going to gigs, sometimes while going to the stage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mGGFSckk0

earlnash, Friday, 4 October 2019 00:33 (four years ago) link


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