I fail to see what is so smug about it, I still hear "commercial = sucky" opinions voiced all the time (not much here, but elsewhere), and not just by indie-rock types.
As far my own personal taste, most all of what I listen to is uncommercial "doing it for the music maaaaaan" music. (uncomercial here meaning that the people releasing it don't expect to make any substantial amount of money from it.)
― fletrejet, Monday, 3 February 2003 19:21 (sixteen years ago) Permalink
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 3 February 2003 19:35 (sixteen years ago) Permalink
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 3 February 2003 19:51 (sixteen years ago) Permalink
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 3 February 2003 19:52 (sixteen years ago) Permalink
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 February 2003 19:52 (sixteen years ago) Permalink
So because I fail to put in an (virtually implied) "many" or "most" modifier, I am super-smuggo?
> Moreover, I wouldn't say it's a simple as you depict it. The >reasons why many indie bands "fail" to sound commercial is more >likely because the musicians involved are bored by "commercial"->sounding music.
I wasn't criticizing indie bands for being uncommercial, I was criticizing *many of* them for dismissing any music with a commercial motivation. Besides, some indie music, with some slight slight tweaking, could be commercially successful (and possibly improve in musical quality).
― fletrejet, Monday, 3 February 2003 20:08 (sixteen years ago) Permalink
i dont think hip hop was ever about getting paid in full any more than rock n' roll. i think its possible that the likes of KRS-One had a lot of trouble with record companies in the 80s which stopped them getting to Dre's level and informed their 'no sell out' stance too perhaps. i find Dre's persistance in the business and objections to piracy quite sickening considering he's been a multi-miilionaire ever since the release of 'The Chronic' - i suppose its like a champion sports team - they dont quit once they've won the big prize, they try and win it again of course...but still...what's really motivating people like Dre and even the Neptunes (or indeed anyone?) to want to do what they do for 20 years or beyond when the whole process becomes evermore manufactured/processed rather than innovative or primarily artistically motivated once they've already become richer than in their wildest dreams after only 10 years in the game.
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 3 February 2003 20:23 (sixteen years ago) Permalink
― Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 3 February 2003 22:39 (sixteen years ago) Permalink
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 00:15 (sixteen years ago) Permalink
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 00:17 (sixteen years ago) Permalink
mac dre vs metallica: mac dre
mac dre vs dre: mac dre
mac dre vs edie brickell and the new bohemians: mac dre
― del griffith, Saturday, 12 May 2018 01:05 (one year ago) Permalink