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they're playing live in australia in january. which will be interesting if nothing else.

as for the early things, there's an awfull lot of flute on them which may sway you one way or another. all of these hippy bands just LOVED a flute. it's rampant on the first Kluster album too.

phil turnbull (philT), Tuesday, 24 December 2002 21:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

i wasnt expecting it to have the pop majesty of later albums, but is it comparable to very early Can and the 1st tangerine dream album

not can, but tangerine dream's "electronic meditation" would probably be a fairish comparison, in the freer parts. "ruckzuck" is definitely great - it was actually used as the theme for a pop-science for kids program here in the US ("newton's apple") and has a bouncy little groove. if you like neu! and "electronic meditation," yes, you need to hear the first two kraftwerks.

your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 24 December 2002 22:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

flute rocks

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 24 December 2002 22:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ananas Symphonie is probably my favourite song ever. As far as Neu! involvement, I think there might be some Klaus Dinger drumwork on the first LP - Michael Rother joined after the LP was made.

Damian (Damian), Wednesday, 25 December 2002 00:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

What's yr second favorite?

Adam A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 25 December 2002 01:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Ruckzuck" is one of my favourite songs (well there're about 200 but still) - I really like the groovy flute playing. It's kind of "hard" flute, not floaty. I think Kwerk 1 & 2 are both really strong albums and I like Ralf und Florian less, pretty fond of "Tanzmusik" from that though.

spectra, Wednesday, 25 December 2002 05:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

My second favourite might be Joy Division's Atmosphere (just ensuring no confusion with the Russ Abbott one). Ananas Symphonie makes me want to buy a steel guitar.

Damian (Damian), Wednesday, 25 December 2002 09:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's kind of "hard" flute, not floaty.

Exactly. I'm glad someone else figured out how to say this (although I do like some floaty flute).

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 25 December 2002 14:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

two years pass...
I swear there was a thread about the supposed reissues for Kraftwerk (hell if I could find it). Anyway....So about the reissue(s)...Rough Trade is now selling Computer World (REMASTERED) vinyl. Out today in fact. Hope this is the beginning of the reissues (and on cds as well).

http://www.roughtrade.com/site/shop_detail.lasso?search_type=sku&sku=261722&-session=rt1:438A746B11c01034E0mnI17C685B

van nostrum (Buck Van Smack), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link

(how do you make long links short, with just a word or two?)

van nostrum (Buck Van Smack), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link

[a href="PUT URL HERE BETWEEN THE QUOTATION MARKS"]WORD OR PHRASE OF YOUR CHOOSING[/a]

Replace "[" and "]" with ""

This is my most "advanced" html trick.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 00:20 (eighteen years ago) link

It's not showing up here- should be replacing the square brackets with angle brackets.

Telephonething (Telephonething), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 01:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Hope this is the beginning of the reissues
On that page you linked, they list 1 & 2 as a double package and Autobahn too, all on coloured vinyl.

willem (willem), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 05:33 (eighteen years ago) link

They are all bootlegs.

harvey.w (harvey.w), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Kraftwerk have been notorious for announcing stuff that *never* happens - earlier this year, they announced that the first three albums would finally get released on CD - no bonus tracks, but "re-mastered" - how can you re-master something that was mever (CD) mastered to begin with? Anyway, the first 3 are great - my favorite is "Kristallo" from "Ralf & Florian", sounds great when played LOUD.

SoHoLa (SoHoLa), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link

you need "tone float" by kraftwerk / organisation - which is kinda like a pre kraftwerk hippy drum circle with wiggy violin, flute & hammond organ - at least as good as kwerk 1 & 2 which are their all time best apart from the original tour de france. get it get it get it - it's the best

bob snoom, Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7813200.stm

:(

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link

The boy Schnieder done good but he has to hang up his boots sometime

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I've been disappointed by how accessible they've been over the past few years. Maybe this will restore a little mystery.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:05 (fifteen years ago) link

But Florian was the weirdo mystery element in the group

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link

And now he's not even in it! It's like SUPER MYSTERIOUS!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:16 (fifteen years ago) link

This at the bottom of the BBC page...

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45301000/jpg/_45301645_cones2_126.jpg
Cones hotline
The lasting legacy of John Major's much ridiculed plan

snoball, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link

what would Florian do?

Hopefully jam with Michael Rother and Jaki L., but probably not. :(

909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Every time I play the opening minute or two of "Europe Endless" I'm kinda convinced there's no better start to a song -- an album, ANYTHING -- out there. It's such a perfectly realized and precise arrangement, and *then* the beats arrive.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

co-sign!

Europa Endlos should be the anthem of the EU.

Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Every time I play the opening minute or two of "Europe Endless" I'm kinda convinced there's no better start to a song -- an album, ANYTHING -- out there. It's such a perfectly realized and precise arrangement, and *then* the beats arrive.

For me, that moment is the keyboard interlude the third time or so it's repeated. For one, I just love the sound of the saw wave and the little modulation accents Ralf plays. But on that iteration, Ralf knocks it up a register — and it just takes off. Easily my favorite Kraftwerk moment, period.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 30 April 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Folks have probably already seen this, but just in case:

http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3212&Itemid=26

Remasters of Autobahn, Radio-Activity, Trans Europe Express), The Man Machine, Computer World, Techno Pop, The Mix, and Tour De France. Available individually or as a box set, in which case they come in those horrible little "mini LP sleeve" packages people seem to like for some reason.

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 05:03 (fourteen years ago) link

On October 5 Kraftwerk will release 12345678: The Catalogue, a CD box set collecting eight of their classic studio albums. Newly remastered versions of the albums will also be available individually on CD, vinyl and download.



The release is via Mute; it marks the 35th anniversary of the band's 1974 hit 'Autobahn' and will come mere weeks after they headline the 2009 edition of Bestival. Kraftwerk are arguably more important than The Beatles in terms of profound influence on the evolution of modern music,
.. etcetc...

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:20 (fourteen years ago) link

- 8 x individual CDs presented in special slipcases featuring newly expanded artwork, including many previously unseen images all of which have been reproduced to the highest technical standards.

- CD Box Set containing 8 x CDs in ‘mini-vinyl’ card wallet packaging, plus individual large format booklets.

- 8 x individual heavyweight vinyl LPs with large format booklets.

- Digital downloads.

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Any reason to buy these for those of us who own all the albums on CD already? Sounds like extra packaging but nothing in the way of new/unreleased music... not really into those types of reissues.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Remastered sound?

StanM, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 13:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh my god, I'm listening to the original '83 version of "Tour de France" right now and am FLIPPING OUT

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

for the first time

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Remastered sound?

The remastering will be the selling point for me. The CDs that we've been listening to for the last twenty years leave a lot to be desired.

Vast Halo, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

will "Techno Pop" be mythical lost album or just "Electric Cafe" with original title?

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

wikipedia says it's just electric cafe with the original title

elan, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link

ralf and florian is nice, summery, kind of hawaiian

-- this explains why i like that lp so much!

amateurist, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Techno Pop was basically a failed album that had the best parts remixed into Electric Cafe. I doubt it will ever seen the light of day and I am not too upset about it. It would be neat to hear out of curiosity, but I doubt they have eight Tour de France style joints sitting in the can waiting to be heard.

That being said, I can only imagine what they have in their archives. I would love to hear the demos for songs that didn't make the cut for their studio albums. They will never be heard while Hutter is alive, but it will be interesting to see how his estate handles the music.

It will also be interesting to see who is credited on the box set. I wonder if Schneider will have his name removed like Bartos and Flur.

your original display name is still visible (Display Name), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

.. and Conny Plank...

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

1983 demo version of 'Techno Pop' is utterly different than album version, almost a 70's retrench with the Orchestron vocal choir playing the chord sequence, I like it better than the album version

& there were three new tunes on the 98 tour than remain unreleased, I can see why but I'd still love a studio version of the one that sounds like their take on Basic Channel

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

word! is that demo vers floating around somewhere reachable?
the live versions I've heard of the "Techno Pop" stuff is pretty great ... hard-hitting, muscular stuff

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

usual place, + demo version of 'techno pop' widely available on 'ultra rare trax volume 2' comp, most widely available bootleg of 97/98 tour is 'Computer Sinfonien ZKM'

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

correction, one word "Computersinfonien"

but "Tribal Gathering" and "Live at the Fillmore" boots pretty good too

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

ace, thanks!

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link

"but "Tribal Gathering" and "Live at the Fillmore" boots pretty good too"

for a second i'm thinking i clicked on the live dead thread by mistake...

scott seward, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah I mean "Fillmore" is a better, more lush recording that captures more of the vibe of the night, but at "Tribal" Ralf was just so on

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link

The only Kraftwerk recordings I have are 70's era, including the one with Rother + Dinger, and this one from Leverkusen with a 40 minute Autobahn

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link

you know where leonardo is? I've been looking for Leverkusen forever, I'll put up 1975 Brighton if you post that one

to go back to "Tribal" it was like Ralf had all this energy that you could literally see rising out of his hands, and it wasn't the acid because I asked Mary and she saw the same tendrils

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link

It's in flac or shn; what's the best way to send something of that size?

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link

i quite liked the three late 90s demos esp. the Tribal '97 one. actually 'Tango' was a bit shit but they kept doing that live for a while unlike the other two.

unban dictionary (blueski), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Florian looks like he just asked Juan to pull his finger

paolo, Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

A+, but I really wanna know what they bought there

sleeve, Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link

You vill be pulling ze finger, Herr Atkins?

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link

A+, but I really wanna know what they bought there

― sleeve, Thursday, May 7, 2020

Lays Kettle Chips + a bottle of white zin

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link

Feel quite emotional looking at that pic.

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

behind the mask of the machine...a man

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Thursday, 7 May 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link

Lays Kettle Chips + a bottle of white zin

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 7, 2020

which flavour???

maffew12, Friday, 8 May 2020 01:24 (three years ago) link

wine flavour duh

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 8 May 2020 02:34 (three years ago) link

otm

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 May 2020 02:35 (three years ago) link

@geetadayal
Level 1:
In tribute, I am trying to dress up like Kraftwerk circa “The Man-Machine.” Problem is, I forgot how to tie a tie.

Can you help? I never knew.
This is how far she's gotten:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXYhKciUYAEik_G?format=jpg&name=900x900

dow, Friday, 8 May 2020 04:08 (three years ago) link

Thread...

June 8 1998 was one of the most important nights of my life. Kraftwerk played a absolutely breathtaking show at the Palladium (the last tour w synths instead of laptops), after EVERYONE was headed Kontrol Faktory - LA's legendary all industrial club. And when I say everyone...

— Das Bunker (@DASBUNKER) May 6, 2020

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 8 May 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

Great story. Takes me back to many fantastic nights at Kontrol and Helter Skelter

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 9 May 2020 06:44 (three years ago) link

Michael Rother remembers Florian from school days, early studio play, enduring inspiration etc.:
https://www.uncut.co.uk/features/read-michael-rothers-eulogy-to-florian-schneider-126501/

dow, Monday, 11 May 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link

A piece from the archives i just re-read, the predictably on point
Pushing Ahead Of The Dame, talking about Bowie, Berlin, Kraftwerk etc

https://bowiesongs.wordpress.com/2011/05/17/v-2-schneider/

piscesx, Monday, 11 May 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

xp It still occasionally amazes me that Michael Rother played in Kraftwerk, Neu! and Harmonia.

doug watson, Monday, 11 May 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

+ I have his first three solo albums ID3 tagged as Rother / Liebezeit / Plank

been going through the 1990 KW bootlegs. last tour with Karl Bartos, though it's Hilpert playing raw live percussion. lots of extremely different versions of the 90's digital retool of 'Numbers', and 'Autobahn' traffic jams are top. probably the last hurrah for them as an actual live band; the only real reason to go through different nights of any given tour after '91 is for fidelity reasons

Milton Parker, Monday, 11 May 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

That Pushing Ahead piece reminded me that you can draw a straight line from "V-2 Schneider" to Einstürzende Neubauten's "Kalte Sterne" (they have the same underlying pulse):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8-oXfqqgVE

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 11 May 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link

my little tribute here:
https://critterjams.wordpress.com/2020/05/11/endless-endless/

frogbs, Monday, 11 May 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

speaking of Kraftwerk covers, new for Aboriginal / first nations charities, in homage to both Florian and Weatherall - a 15-minute Neon Lights cover (plus 10-minute remix)) by Jono Ma (from Pnau/Jagwar Ma), Jonti (Danimals/live Avalanches), Stella Mogzawa (Warpaint/the XX/Kurt & Courtney), Ewan Pearson (Ewan Pearson) & pals

massage angry pixels (sic), Saturday, 30 May 2020 09:31 (three years ago) link

Ewan Pearson (Ewan Pearson)

thank you for this, I knew the name sounded familiar...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 30 May 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

Ah, you’re partial to his arts

massage angry pixels (sic), Saturday, 30 May 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

Echo..

Mark G, Saturday, 30 May 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

^ That Neon Lights cover is rather lovely and would have sounded excellent at ALFOSes I'm sure.

Picasso visita el planeta de los shitposteros (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

new kraftwerk dropped lads:
https://open.spotify.com/album/5FvNOnZtP0dQKZbDQ1uhGy?si=eOOM4BwmQCueKyK6Wm_5HA

mark s, Monday, 21 December 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

What's at the link?

huge rant (sic), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link

This is really just a playlist of remixes that were previously released. Nothing new about it.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 21 December 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link

yes

mark s, Monday, 21 December 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

karl bartos solo material is just as good except his rock release!

xzanfar, Monday, 21 December 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link

honestly p stoked the Orbital remix is finally on spotify

Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link

I was all "Oh Oh.... oh."

Mark G, Friday, 25 December 2020 10:27 (three years ago) link

Never mind, I have enough copies of the Vertigo albums...

Mark G, Friday, 25 December 2020 10:28 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

was thinking it would be funny to do a "Bohemian Rhapsody" style biopic of Jean-Michel Jarre. the only scene I have nailed down is Jarre buying Autobahn and hearing "Kometenmelodie 2" for the first time. his mind instantly rockets through the cosmos, like in the end of 2001: A Space Odyssey. you keep seeing him make the faces from the Vince McMahon gif. he wakes up drenched in sweat, comes downstairs and says "Dad...I don't want to take piano lessons anymore"

frogbs, Saturday, 7 May 2022 03:53 (one year ago) link

Would watch!

paolo, Sunday, 8 May 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

I had a dream about Kraftwerk last night. they did a show in Madison (?) and the setlist was:

Ruckzuck
Neon Lights
Supper's Ready
Electric Cafe - with 5 cats in wireframe suits. 4 of them ran away, the other one flopped on its belly and everyone said "awww"

then the curtains closed and I grabbed a beer out of a vending machine (?) which came with a shot of Fireball for 27 dollars. I used my wife's credit card.

the curtains lifted and some guy comes out and says "sorry ze robot is broken, we cannot play, Auf Wiedersehen." and everyone stood up and booed and threw pretzels

frogbs, Saturday, 15 April 2023 02:48 (one year ago) link

sorry, had to write this down somewhere

frogbs, Saturday, 15 April 2023 02:48 (one year ago) link

amazing, tyvm

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Saturday, 15 April 2023 02:55 (one year ago) link

hoping your wife is cool with the beer expenditure, otherwise it's Computerliebe from here on

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 15 April 2023 04:13 (one year ago) link

4 of them ran away, the other one flopped on its belly and everyone said "awww"

I will retrofit this onto the Kraftwerk canon or die trying

Supper's Ready is the key element here

hellboy falling through the bar (Matt #2), Saturday, 15 April 2023 07:49 (one year ago) link

Excellent.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 April 2023 08:01 (one year ago) link


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