jonah goldberg talkin shit

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lucianne goldberg wikipedia article makes reference to

↑ New York Times, "Writer Declares She Was G.O.P. Spy in M'Govern Camp", August 19, 1973, p. 1

cant find it on google news/the nytimes site & no longer dating girl who has lexis-nexis (plz save coulter jokes) can somebody good at finding shit (i.e. noted black british journalist dastoor) dig this up for me?? i assume its about goldberg but wtf!

anticon jemima (ooo), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:27 (twelve years ago) link


August 19, 1973, Sunday

SECTION: Page 1, Column 4

LENGTH: 221 words

Freelance writer L Goldberg says on Aug 18 that Nixon pol adviser M M Chotiner recruited and paid her $1,000 a wk to travel with press corps accompanying Sen G McGovern during '72 Pres campaign, and that she made daily repts on McGovern's personal and pol activities; says she used code name 'Chapman's friend' in calls to Chotiner over special telephone line in his Washington law office; says Chotiner paid her directly by personal check; says she had no connection with Com for Re-Election of Pres and does not know if Chotiner gave her repts to com; says 'implication was very strong' that Pres Nixon knew and approved of her activities, but that Chotiner never explicitly told her this was so; says she heard that other 'Chapman's friends' were planted in press corps traveling with Dem Vice Pres candidate S Shriver, and with Vice Pres Agnew; says Chotiner was especially interested in 'sexy' details such as 'who is sleeping with whom,' but that she never had access to that kind of information; says she saw job as opportunity to have unusual experience at nobody's expense; says she planned to write book about it; notes she told Chotiner she was going to reveal her spying activity and that Chotiner told her to tell 'the whole truth'; says she did nothing wrong and would do it again; illus of Goldberg and Chotiner

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

that famous 'telegraphic' style um.

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:35 (twelve years ago) link


anticon jemima (ooo), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...
Taking it to the people.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

Talking Jonah Goldberg Corner Blues

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

Talk about "soft launch," you think they'd at least clean up the typos.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 22 March 2007 02:13 (twelve years ago) link

exciting! one conservative political writer debating with another conservative political writer. anyone else feel the tension in the air?

modestmickey, Thursday, 22 March 2007 03:02 (twelve years ago) link

*masturbates softly*

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Thursday, 22 March 2007 03:25 (twelve years ago) link

dorks. i question the political savvy of peter beinart given that he thought it was a good plan to do a debate tour vs. ann coulter & thus help her out by 1) treating her ideas as worthy of serious discussion and 2) looking like a damn fool as she pulled her usual theatrics

daria-g, Thursday, 22 March 2007 03:28 (twelve years ago) link

there's a reason nobody takes tnr seriously anymore

modestmickey, Thursday, 22 March 2007 06:44 (twelve years ago) link

seven months pass...

Check this out now, it probably won't be up long.

Rock Hardy, Saturday, 27 October 2007 22:47 (eleven years ago) link

So much for the holiday season.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 October 2007 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Apparently, advance copies are out, to the great sarcastic joy of some.

A sample:

Chapter 2: Adolf Hitler, Man of the Left

Chapter 4: Franklin Roosevelt’s Fascist New Deal

Chapter 5: The 1960’s: Fascism Takes to the Streets

Chapter 9: Brave New Village: Hillary Clinton and the Meaning of Liberal Fascism.


Chapter 10: We’re All Fascists Now

kingfish, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

does he script those automated spam messages I get? There seems to be similar logic working there.

bnw, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

You own the book, kingfish?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

page photos have been all over the past few days!

gff, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

the "war on smoking" is New Age?

dally, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

Today's funny. I love the 'stolen base' comment because har har do you see etc.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

"We're All Fascists Now" has a nice punky ring to it, i must admit. i'm sure it's an obvious reference to something my dulled brain is missing at the moment, but w/e

gff, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

it might be making you think of McCarthy's "We Are All Bourgeois Now"?

Simon H., Tuesday, 18 December 2007 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

i think the "we are all x now" phrase is pretty old but i don't know where it's from

gff, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

He's such a cock.

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

'Dachau hosted the world's largest alternative and organic medicine research lab and produced its own organic honey.'

from fascist bees!

haitch, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

i don't own a copy; some of the lefty blogs are posting pics from the pages, since some of the shit is so fucked that you have to see it to believed that some publisher actually put down time & money to print up such madness.

kingfish, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 02:06 (eleven years ago) link

f'rinstance, this bit about how the KKK were "ironically" called fascists, or this chapter list

They've been posted pages at

kingfish, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 02:12 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Dave Neiwert reviews the book well.

kingfish, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 01:48 (eleven years ago) link

ornicus is one of my favorite blogs and my work filter now blocks it due to "racism/hate"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 02:01 (eleven years ago) link

the angries, there are so many of them

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 02:04 (eleven years ago) link

in my hart

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 02:04 (eleven years ago) link

The Corner has been all about promoting that tract in the last two days. Jonah actually visited local bookstores to see where it was posted

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 02:07 (eleven years ago) link

haha essentially no one in a chain bookstore gives a shit about the dude's politics. front-of-store placement is driven by how many copies have been ordered/how much co-op money the publisher has spent, none of which goes on at the store level. no one outside of ny/dc stocked the book in huge quantities because no one knows or cares who jonah goldberg is. if he were a tall blond chick with an adam's apple, they'd stock more because that shit sells. for such a tough guy he sure loves playing the victim

mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 03:53 (eleven years ago) link

ornicus is one of my favorite blogs and my work filter now blocks it due to "racism/hate"

can an rss reader get thru your filter? Also, he posts a good deal at places like FireDogLake.

Then again, there's always Google caches.

kingfish, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 05:22 (eleven years ago) link

>>'Dachau hosted the world's largest alternative and organic medicine >>research lab and produced its own organic honey.'

This is the kind of lunatic statement which editors simply don't have the guts to decline to publish.

Actually, from the pages I've seen excerpted, you could simply take out all the references to liberals and his usual targets and substitute Republicans and it would work the same way.

F'r instance: Dachau played host to the most advanced, if unsanctioned, medical techniques in the west. It is well known that many people in the Republican party benefit from and support the cutting edge practice of medicine.

It's astonishing to me that the LA Times hasn't fired him from its editorial pages. It won't stand for anyone being called names and putting about half the population of the country in the same league as Nazis would seem to broadly fit the paper's list of no-no's. By his screwy book, many Jews in the entertainment industry must be closet Nazis, too.

Gorge, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 07:41 (eleven years ago) link

In fact, most of the other columnists at the paper would have to be closet Nazi-Jews, too.

Gorge, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 07:44 (eleven years ago) link

i've already seen several references to this shit in non-goldberg writings (DUH NATIONAL SOCIALISM IT'S GOT SOCIALISM RIGHT THERE GUYS!). gonna be a fun year.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 10:22 (eleven years ago) link

oh teh lulz:

gff, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

guys come on this is hilarious:

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gff, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

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My favorites.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

doughy pantloads premiere (3) OTM

John Justen, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

i don't get the 'cheetoh' meme, but i approve

gff, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

Gorge, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

I liked "Ghost writer quit when I tried to pay him in funyuns"

kingfish, Thursday, 10 January 2008 04:59 (eleven years ago) link

i don't get the 'cheetoh' meme, but i approve

standard "fat loser in parents' basement subsisting on cheet-ohs and smug self-satisfaction" stuff. except -star trek +movement "conservatism."

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 10 January 2008 09:04 (eleven years ago) link

pretty hilarious daily show interview tonight

clotpoll, Thursday, 17 January 2008 07:44 (eleven years ago) link

i hope the full, unedited 18 minute version gets posted somewhere. it was interesting seeing doughboy actually being confronted in person about how woefully stupid this book is. since he's pretty much chosen to ignore every valid written criticism as somehow not worth his time.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 17 January 2008 07:58 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

Evolution of religious bigotry

The cowardice and intolerance of slapping a Darwin fish on your car bumper.

kingfish, Thursday, 3 April 2008 00:51 (eleven years ago) link

what a tool

latebloomer, Thursday, 3 April 2008 00:53 (eleven years ago) link

So basically

1) We are right to hate muslims
2) Liberals don't hate them enough
3) But they hate christians (who I don't actually like either but who are relatively harmless and help my team)
4) So we are also right to hate liberals

Hurting 2, Thursday, 3 April 2008 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

5) We are right to be suspicious of fish

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 3 April 2008 02:40 (eleven years ago) link


The best part is that Kathleen is unrelentingly OTM.

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:09 (ten years ago) link

More fun:

My email box runneth over with nice attaboys and more than a few interesting criticisms regarding my post about Kathleen Parker. Keying off some of the criticisms, here's one thing I want to know, as I sit here at the Whither Conservatism conference. What aspects of the Christian Right amount to oogedy-boogedyism? I take oogedy-boogedy to be a perjorative reference to absurd superstition and irrational nonsense. So where has the GOP embraced to its detriment oogedy-boogedyism? With the possible exception of some variants of creationism (which is hardly a major issue at the national level in the GOP, as much as some on the left and a few on the right try to make it one), I'm at a loss as to what Kathleen is referring to. Opposition to abortion? Opposition to gay marriage? Euthanasia? Support for prayer in school?

There are all sorts of legitimate positions on all sides of these issues and I don't necessarily agree with the conventional religious right view on all of them. And as a committed federalist, I'd like to see most if not all of them settled as locally as possible. But I think it's silly and offensive to describe the mainstream social conservative positions on these issues as "oogedy boogedy" stuff. Moreover, as a matter of political analysis it's beyond absurd to think the GOP can become a majority party by adopting a rhetorical tone toward religious conservatives usually found at the Huffington Post or the Daily Kos. I'm sure Bill Maher agrees with Kathleen. But normally, at least for people who call themselves conservatives, when Bill Maher agrees with you it's a sign that you took a wrong turn somewhere.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:12 (ten years ago) link

You aren't a martyr smoking your last cigarette. You're just another columnist, talented and charming to be sure, but just another columnist.

this reads like pulp lyrics

most important concept of all -- THE CONCEPT OF LOVE (donna rouge), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:13 (ten years ago) link

Oh Jonahpaws, let's start with the charming local priest who told his Catholic congregation that they would not receive Communion until they asked for forgiveness for voting for Obama and then work our way through a myriad of televangelists.

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:15 (ten years ago) link

should be under the wiki for butthurtedness

bnw, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:16 (ten years ago) link

this reads like pulp lyrics

I thought that you were joking / When you said "I want to see you
To discuss conservatism / and the future of our nation's heart and soul
Six o'clock, my place, DC" / Well I arrived just after seven
But you said "It doesn't matter" / "I understand your irritation
And your image, and I'm flattered / Oh and I'd just like to tell you
That I love all of your writings / Could you sign this for my editor?
She's on a cruise, her name is K-Lo / Now get down to the gist:
Do you want a line of this? / Are you a (sniff) / columnist?"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:18 (ten years ago) link

It reads like John Prine!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:22 (ten years ago) link

It can be all these things, and more!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:23 (ten years ago) link

But look at it through the eyes of a conservative. This is a Democratic city, run almost uniformly by liberals. While many of the problems most prominently on display can certainly be traced back to racism, racism itself is not a central issue in the Wire (nor is racism an inherently or historically conservative phenomena). These drug gangs and the poor souls in their orbit, are not trapped by racism so much as by a dysfunctional culture.

as a dude (goole), Monday, 1 December 2008 17:37 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

"By the way, this email is not for publication."

Hilarious afterthought.

Alex in SF, Monday, 15 June 2009 12:45 (ten years ago) link

ten months pass...

haha just heard some rightwing talkradio dbag refer to him as "the great jonah goldberg"

livestock crush (velko), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 15:48 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...
two months pass...

<3 <3 <3

Airplanes can be used for good things and bad things. Some airplanes carry medicine or ice cream, but other airplanes carry bombs or bad people. But an airplane with bombs might be good because the bombs are for using on bad guys, and on the other airplane maybe the ice cream has melted.

mookieproof, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:20 (seven years ago) link

Loved it. Looking forward to Goldberg's response: "I have no time to answer this – my daughter's getting her rabies shot."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:52 (seven years ago) link


mookieproof, Friday, 11 May 2012 04:31 (seven years ago) link

Dear Jonah,

Even Hamilton would not have found this fellow to be duel worthy.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2012 11:52 (seven years ago) link

Those quotes from the book are amazing.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 May 2012 12:48 (seven years ago) link

Loved it. Looking forward to Goldberg's response: "I have no time to answer this – my daughter's getting her rabies shot."

Well, you were close:

I’m not going to bother with most of this garbage since I have actual work to do

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 May 2012 12:56 (seven years ago) link

In which max plays Aaron Burr.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 May 2012 14:30 (seven years ago) link

oh my god somehow i had never encountered that "the white male is the Jew of liberal fascism" line

horseshoe, Friday, 11 May 2012 15:52 (seven years ago) link

what a horrible idiotic man

horseshoe, Friday, 11 May 2012 15:54 (seven years ago) link

"the white male is the Jew of liberal fascism"

Genuine lol. I loved Alex's airplane analogy, too. So sad about the melted ice cream. It's not fair.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:10 (seven years ago) link

authors shouldn't respond to negative reviews IMO, it's undignified. in his post jonah proceeds to commit every sin he accuses klein of. i can't imagine reading an entire book by this assclown but that post illustrates his unique fusion of pseudo-erudition and juvenile putdowns. klein was too kind!

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Sunday, 20 May 2012 13:11 (seven years ago) link

I suspect Jonah took Alex P's comment about him never addressing criticism to heart -- and this is the result.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 May 2012 13:12 (seven years ago) link

as Pareene has noted, Jonah craves the affection of guys like Klein (who's a hack himself).

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 May 2012 13:13 (seven years ago) link

"We've invited Klein, Goldberg, Chris Matthews, Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly to this debate inside a vacuum-sealed tube we've dropped in the middle of the ocean. Now, an hour of gentle new age music."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 May 2012 13:15 (seven years ago) link


i don't think much of klein either. people like his book on woody guthrie but on politics he's always been a conventional-wisdom pez dispenser

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Sunday, 20 May 2012 13:16 (seven years ago) link

don't forget this smug dickweed:

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 May 2012 13:17 (seven years ago) link

I can’t imagine a person dumb enough to actually believe that Jonah Goldberg had been seriously considered for a Pulitzer. (Well, OK, I can imagine one person dumb enough.)

A+ Klo zing.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Sunday, 20 May 2012 13:55 (seven years ago) link

I align myself with GK Chesterton, William F. Buckley, Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn, Friedrich von Hayek, Ludwig Von Mises and quite a few others on this point.

Don't forget Von von Vonvonvon

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Sunday, 20 May 2012 14:13 (seven years ago) link

jberg is good evidence that all the advantages of an upper class, urban, educated, political upbringing cannot substitute for intelligence. he just seems really dumb idk.

Mordy, Sunday, 20 May 2012 14:28 (seven years ago) link

pareene piece an excellent takedown to read sunday morning. my only complaint is that having already attacked goldberg it's unlikely pareene will follow-up with more goldberg pieces throughout the rest of the year.

Mordy, Sunday, 20 May 2012 14:36 (seven years ago) link

Don't worry -- Jonah will provide more fodder!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 May 2012 16:16 (seven years ago) link

tyranny blog

mookieproof, Sunday, 20 May 2012 16:52 (seven years ago) link

In short, I’m really not all that bothered by what I think are his unjustifiably low opinions of my work, but I really can’t abide his unjustifiably high opinion of himself.


Sisig Steve (stevie), Sunday, 20 May 2012 18:01 (seven years ago) link

five years pass...

mookieproof, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:51 (one year ago) link

never gets old

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 23:33 (one year ago) link

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