Final Fantasy XII discussion thread for those playing the game

I'm just going to repost the actual game playing related posts from the other thread here, cool?
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I'm assuming y'all won't give a shit about SPOILERS but
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1 hr. in, I have been sent out of town to hunt a ROGUE TOMATO. Uh...
Opening FMV goes by quick. Kind of a Star Wars looking parade/wedding followed by a LOTR type battle where the groom is killed.
Voice acting not bad except for the whiny emo boys, one of whom (the brother of main emo boy Vaan) is stabbed in the gut and killed quite nicely within the first half-hour.
Battle system still fucking boring. I don't play MMORPGs, so the only thing I can compare it to is KOTOR. I'm not at the point where I have to dick around with the gambit system yet.
Oh, and I've purchased my first LICENSE (for a fucking ACCESSORY).

-- Marmot (marmotwolo...), November 2nd, 2006 7:16 PM. (marmotwolof) (later) (link)

btw, cut scenes ARE skippable (hit start then X), including the intro.

-- Marmot (marmotwolo...), November 2nd, 2006 8:23 PM. (marmotwolof) (later) (link)

i'm a little more than an hour in and i'm enjoying it. nothing great, but it's fun. i like the battle system more than i like KOTOR's. even though they're pretty much the same. my main complaint is the character design. the only non human characters i've seen so far look like...lame lizard guys. and my first big fight was with....a tomato thing.

based on the first hour or so of play, i would rate it a 7 out of 10.

-- Christopher Costello (Glixe...), November 2nd, 2006 10:22 PM. (CGC) (later) (link)

Yeah, I'd go 7/10 so far. I'm a couple more hours in, just wasted some time getting Vaan to Lv. 4 for the hell of it and am now on the Sunstone quest with Penelo just joining my party.
Supposedly the story really kicks in at about the 10 hr. mark.

-- Marmot (marmotwolo...), November 2nd, 2006 11:49 PM. (marmotwolof) (later) (link)

mostly Linear main plots with useless side quests you have to go on gamefaqs to figure out! battle with no room for real tactics (BARDS FUCKING TALE had better battles)

-- roc u like a § (jo...), Saturday 4:38 PM. (ex machina) (later) (link)

This game is not nearly as twee as you would think. Well, the new moogles are but Vaan doesn't whine as much as earlier leads and the "rabbit stripper bitch" Fran barely has any lines, but when she does talk it's like this monotone Scandinavian accent, not cutesy.
Also, the way the story is told it doesn't try to make you GIVE A SHIT about the characters' FEELINGS the way the other FFs did.

-- Marmot (marmotwolo...), Tuesday 3:18 PM. (marmotwolof) (later) (link)

Oh, dude, don't say that because it'll get me interested.

This is where potheads take their bong rips. Sony is for stoners.

55 hours in and I don't seem close to finishing it. I just finished up the first trip to Archades, how far am I? This game is IMMENSE.

My only complaint is that boss fights just come down to hitting them with Quickening chains repeatedly, swapping out party members and using Charge to refill MP. Am I missing interesting challenges by being so cheap?

70 to beat it, for me. Still haven't finished all the optional stuff. Probably another 30-50 hours for that if you want to be thorough.

I think I hit the 55 hour mark and burned out; ran to the end and finished it.

Yeah, I did do a lot of hunting and stuff while the main story hadn't finished yet, so you could shave off some time if you skip all that.

OK the Gigan Gate puzzle is so unfair. I am glad I cheated at that one.

I stated playing a couple days ago and I'm highly addicted already. The battle system doesn't really seem too different than other final fantasy games except random encounters don't exist. Random encounters or not, the enemies can still surprise attack you or chase you down which makes dodging enemies more difficult. So, the battle system isn't really flawed - like a lot of people say.

But I died twice today when I was trying to kill some big rare cockatrices for experience. I lost all the loot and experience up to when I fought these baddies. It was kinda annoying that I had to repeat the same battles 3 times and waste two hours on the times I died. However, it could have been totally avoidable if I wasn't in such a hurry to hit the tough rare guys to rack up experience.

Graphics: A+
Sound: A
Gameplay: A (any more detail would just annoy me probably)
Story: A
Fun Factor: B+
(it is a bit too much like other rpgs, even if the battle system has changed greatly to a more action oriented rpg. even though this game is more action oriented than other final fantasy games, the rpg elements are still very much intact and the battles are nothing like zelda or ys games which rely heavily on quick paced button mashing, rather than rpg timed action-decisions.)

The graphics and the story really stand out and I enjoy leveling up and trying to acquire new weapons and spells unlike most rpgs.

and I'm sure that having the walkthrough manual makes this game 10 times more fun for me, even though I never claim to be a cheater in video games. It just feels good having the manual so I wont miss anything and I want wander around an area endlessly when the loot isn't actually there.

the story starts out OK but it degrades in the second half of the game

meanwhile on another forum

http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4297

someone check on tombot ok?

that's already been posted like three times

of course you'd know!

Apparently a guy post this in gamefaqs. He suffers from a disease called Aspergers. Rumors say that the guy killed himself cause he never login again in gamefaqs. I couldnt found exactly what is aspergers.

hahahah

sorry sometimes i just forget google is beyond some on the internet

If somebody had said earlier on that this game is kind of like an absurdist fantasy novel wherein you control Paul Simonon 1981 I would have had much less shit to say about it

although the battle system is kind of ridiculously uninvolved, at least in rogue galaxy they made you hit buttons

I don't want to be at work whaaa I want to be home storming the castle from my futon

Paul has just met up with Joe Strummer 1981 and I'm trying to figure out if this means the rabbit stripper is going to write our biggest hit and then get kicked out of the party for a heroin habit.

Do they design these characters with convention cosplayers specifically in mind, nowadays? "lol somebody is actually going to try and dress like this no matter what I draw"

(yes I realize posts like this are grandpa-rocking-on-the-front-porch-with-his-glass-of-whiskey levels of cutting humor)

atlus has admitted to putting cosplayable characters more prominently on game covers.

I don't mean nec. "cosplayable" I mean more like bahahahaha make this in your garage, kids!! *evil ho-ho-ho*

Stupid me thought I could go beat a bunch of the level one hunts before I went to the sky city, resulting in me having to bolt for a save crystal with the doom clock ticking down, having not actually saved for a couple of hours.

This game is kind of an opiate drip, isn't it.

It's a good time.

ok, it is perhaps not a good design feature when like 3/5ths of a ludicrously drawn-out fetch quest can be completed at basically noob levels while the third act of same convoluted fetch quest involves walking up on the territory of some lvl 30 giant palette-swapped bullshit from hell

"Alpha Worgen" is on my shit list. As is my habit of not saving very often because it's not like any battles in the first 20 hours or so other than Mr. Optional Demon Wall put you in any real danger of a party wipe.

Fruity-ass wolf bitch motherfucker fuck you and your little magenta buddies I am going to kill you in a couple more days you watch.

Fuschia, that's what you are. Fuschia and so dead.

also how did it take me 22 hours to figure out that Balthier is gay?

Save early, save often. I am consistently surprised how 3+ typical wondering-the-woods mobs are able to all but wipe my party while I can stick it out and whittle down far more terrifying-looking boss fuckers. The timing and speed aspects of this game are more important than in any other RPG I've ever played, I think, even the tactical sort.

You know it's all well and good to be able to experience a lot of the intriguing gameplay elements of a MMORPG without having to deal with... other... people... but frankly this Basch kid plays the offensive tackle position like a fucking, I don't know, he's a slice of fucking Emmentaler is what he is. Sure he can dish it out but I just want him to once in a while you know STEP IN FRONT OF THE FAT TOAD THING THAT IS SLAPPING ME AROUND.

also the combat in the underground palace, with the five servings of evil fruits and vegetables? who the hell writes this shit?

lol i have never played this game, but i'm a fan of this ^^ post

Seriously that is probably my weirdest moment ever in a game. After they scattered, it was like 15 minutes of running around, all my ranged weapon experts in the party, two casters and Mr. Gay Gunslinger chasing these poor little vegetable-headed bastards around a giant arena, getting coated in eldritch pollen and subjected to midget headbutts. Then shooting the perpetrators in the back repeatedly as they tried to regroup. I give them credit for putting up a fight. I also take that credit away for being dumb enough for pissing off a man with a golden shotgun. BLAM!! oof ow uhhh I have been magical-retarded oof ugh BLAM!! BLAM!!

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butt on face action

i think i'll finally get this today

man am i gonna have some BELIEFS 2 share w/u guys

i believe the falcons will make the playoffs, so that probably makes _2_

a coupla points for later elaboration

1. when you try to stack actions in a battle with several opponents (by several I mean >3 ha ha) the turn based nature of the battle system becomes a little bit frustrating. step outside your gambits with two of your characters and CONGRATULATIONS YOU HAVE FOUND THE EASTER EGG WHEREIN FINAL FANTASY DECIDES TO ACT LIKE WINDOWS AND SIT THERE FOR FIVE MINUTES WHILE IT THINKS ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST TOLD IT TO DO. Genuinely the most frustrating moment in a game I've had in a long, long, long fucking time. This is a fucking RPG. It should not present me with lag problems.

2. Do not attempt the pharos subterra just because you can kill pylraster. jesus fucking christ on a god damned popsicle stick those fucking toads and their little magical pony friends wiped me twice before I figured out lv66 just wasn't good enough. what in god's name.

3. The gun is good. I don't know if the penis is evil but the gun is good.

oh and 4. if you're going to put in some minigames, try to make the interface at least remotely approachable. the fishing and the footrace game in this are about as atrocious as the problem described in 1, above.

so i, uh, rented this tonight to help put up with my first week of laid off action.

should help take the edge off.

The variety of accents in this game are great, i must say. far better variety than your bog-standard vancouver/l.a.-area sci-fi channel quality.

also but fuck me is there a lot of Star Wars in this game, either directly or thru a co-mingling of sources

Jeez, even the Han Solo character is a bit more of a dandy than one would otherwise hope for

man, there is a FUCKTON of Star Wars in this

Just played the first Dr Cid boss fight, and was struck by how good the fight music was.

Then i remembered that it sounds almost like the battle overture from Wrath of Khan, which was some of the greatest fight music evah.

can't decide to get this for my new playstation 2 or not

pros:
it is cheap
i will enjoy it

cons:
i will spend lots of time on it
i will get angry at myself for enjoying at and spending lots of time on it

"new" ps2????? theres better games dude

altho reading this thread from the top im thinking maybe i never gave it a fair chance i remember thinking it was pointless in the worst way but maybe its worth replaying

i think shadow of the colossus is the only game that makes me miss my ps2.

well i'm deeply loving persona 4 and want to line up another one of these jrpg nonsense games but can't decide if this is going to be horribly over-generic or not.

i have actually thought about buying ffx and ffx-2 as well but that would totally about scratching an itch i really ought not to bother with as opposed to playing games that are 'fun' or 'interesting' or that i 'enjoy'

i really really dug the combat in this game and the way that dungeons sorta "felt." a lot more like an MMO but instead of friends playing, you get peopel you cna program to not suck.

have actually thought about buying ffx and ffx-2 as well but that would totally about scratching an itch i really ought not to bother with as opposed to playing games that are 'fun' or 'interesting' or that i 'enjoy'

bro, what?

I like how the talking cockatrices have really strong cockney accents.

"i think shadow of the colossus is the only game that makes me miss my ps2."

same. one of the best games i've ever played. why isn't there a fucking sequel? /derail

80 hours in, jeesus

It's a good time tho' right?

Surprisingly, yes. The fact that each character doesn't have the usual jrpg single-weapon-class slot ilwas a great idea. I wish they had a more pcrpg way of tracking all the miniquests you get involved with

I'm wondering if i'm going to be able to stick with this long enough to beat it. I'm at the 'tower on a distant shore' level.

Just lower your head and finish.

i think i'll finally get this today
man am i gonna have some BELIEFS 2 share w/u guys
― ಥ﹏ಥ (cankles), Friday, November 14, 2008 9:38 AM (3 years ago)

never delivered

man i still wanna play this

Carl Agatha needs to finish playing this. I enjoy watching her play it, although I think it would drive me crazy to play it.

10hrs into final fantasy x and can't bring myself to stomach it any longer

never beat ff7, either. 30hrs and got sick of the whole thing. these games are fucking commitments.

on the commitment titch... i was just thinking today abt how in every one of those kinda games anyone who is ever in your party EVER at the end is ON YOUR TEAM 4 LIFE & how ridiculously COMMITTED all of these people who shouldn't be committed to SAVING THE WORLD are to saving the world -- where are the games where someone joins for a scene or an act or whatever? aside from saga series?

how did all the cockatrices wind up cockney
― El Tomboto, Thursday, October 23, 2008

oh wait ha ha ha I get it
― El Tomboto, Thursday, October 23, 2008

remastered in HD for PS4

http://www.finalfantasy.net/xii/return-ivalice-final-fantasy-xii-zodiac-age/

teaser looks awesome

https://youtu.be/D2-bWotLKqo

Booooo, they pulled a Last Guardian and delayed so long they skipped the PS3 altogether.

sold

also, when is the last guardian coming out again?

2092, last I checked.

I've been playing the Zodiac Age edition on Switch and I'm mesmerized. I thought maybe all Final Fantasies after FF7 were complete trash but this one is really fun and engrossing.

9 and 10 are pretty beloved too! this one's more of a cult favorite

ff8: card game, good
ff9: kinda regular ass fantasy, good
ff10: blitzball, good
ff10-2: dress sphere, good
ff11: bad mmo
ff12: awesome game
ff13, 13-2, 13-3 (didnt play 13-3): fal'cie, l'cie, bad
ff14: good mmo
ff15: AFI dudes, good

i think the few people who made it to 13-3 really liked it but its a character action game?

13-3's soundtrack is incredible

hxxps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY9gWIW02ng

I gave up on FFX, I kept getting mad at it for being stupid. I might pick it back up once I'm done with XII and VII (which I played before but never finished).

I might revisit 9 too but I dunno if the Switch version is any good?

which was the one that was more or less on rails? I really hated that one, bailed within a few hours

13?

10 seemed very railroaded to me but maybe i didn't get far enough into it

a lot of them are railroaded for the first half until you get the airship or w/e

first half linear, second half open world / revisiting earlier areas with new purpose is a pretty standard rpg structure