what's the big deal w/CHOWHOUND?

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this is more food-in-general than cooking but I want to vent and don't know where else to put this. do any other ilxors look at the chowhound boards? think I've seen lauren post there. anyway my initial enthusiasm for that place is curdling into irritation. maybe the outer-borough NYC boards and other cities are better but the manhattan board sucks IMHO. people hyping the same expensive restaurants over & over and the chef love is off the hook...mario batali must be paying these people...like some out of towner will ask for a modest priced italian restaurant in tribeca and the posters come back with GO TO BABBO which is a) in the village b)impossible to get a reservation at unless you leap thru a series of hoops and c) not exactly cheap.

plus I made a joke once about some ridiculous-sounding dish a poster mentioned and it got deleted!

so what gives? am I missing the good stuff? guidance, please.

m coleman, Saturday, 22 December 2007 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, it can be annoying. the strict moderation policy, for one thing, can seem very arbitrary, and as with all msg boards there's a huge element of groupthink. try going on the outer boroughs board and saying that you think d1fara's might be a bit overrated, for example, and see what happens. that said, it's a great resource if you can ignore a lot of the noise/sniping/snobbishness. there are quite a few places that i wouldn't have tried or found if not for the outer boroughs board, for instance. and though i don't use it enough, the home cooking board has been very helpful the few times i've had questions (kind of like this board writ large). i also like the recipes section that was incorporated into the new site.

lauren, Saturday, 22 December 2007 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

ha! i just looked, and there's actually a long, brand new "d1fara's - what's the big deal?" thread. this one's WAY more civil than usual, though.

lauren, Saturday, 22 December 2007 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link

i lol'd at "i think i've seen lauren post there" :D

bell_labs, Sunday, 23 December 2007 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't follow it daily but i am in debt to it for pointing out lots of places i wouldn't have known about otherwise, especially in queens. there is nothing wrong with stalking food, but i can imagine getting anxious if i tried to be a manhattan foodie; shit is expensive.

bell_labs, Sunday, 23 December 2007 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link

eh yeah like lauren said it can sometimes be helpful but chowhoud pretty much typifies the clueless materialistic foodie attitude that makes me want to stop eating or at least talking abt food

jhøshea, Sunday, 23 December 2007 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I need to check out the recipe/cooking boards that's more my speed. want to try d1fara but subwaying there for lunch from the yupper west side and getting back in time would eat up my day. discovered a great hole in the wall place in chelsea near my kids school tho -- like a cross between a standard pizzeria and an old school italian steam-table lunchroom w/hot heroes baked ziti etc. maffei pizza 6th ave @ 22nd.

anyway thanx guys

m coleman, Sunday, 23 December 2007 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link

maffei is the place that ed lev1ne thinks has one of the best grandma pies in the city. i need to try it, but every time i go by during the week around lunchtime it's swarmed with people.

lauren, Sunday, 23 December 2007 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i looked at it for the first time recently. the new orleans section looked pretty lame, and i was going to post something and then figuring "why bother".

Jordan, Monday, 14 January 2008 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I asked an innocent question and my post got deleted -- again. chowhound moderators = cockfarmers

m coleman, Monday, 21 January 2008 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

what was the question?

lauren, Monday, 21 January 2008 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

on a thread about conveyor-belt sushi restaurants I asked if anybody else remembered a place like this on 5th Ave in the early 80s that was reputed to be the first conveyor-belt sushi place outside of japan. it was a bizarre place, you'd grab a plate of maki rolls off the belt as it slowly chugged along. one of the first places I tried raw fish. off-topic I guess and obviously the chowhounders don't share my interest in history.

just my irish temper flaring up again. but like you said lauren, their moderation just seems arbitrary. whatever in the future I'll stick to hyping my current favorite restaurants.

m coleman, Monday, 21 January 2008 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

how weird! i would be pissed.

lauren, Monday, 21 January 2008 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

East is the only conveyor sushi i know,,, it grossed me out last time i was there,. Some guy that was coughing into his hands took some touched it and put it back. YUCK

m coleman, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

like many online communities, it's very elitist and cold to newbies (hey like ILX!)

i personally found far too many opinions outweighing too few facts (and untrue ones at that) to have Chowhound or eGullet be worth participating in. An avid foodie friend of mine had a few of his new topics deleted after the mod-era settled in so he attempted to delete all of his posts and he was blocked before he could delete more than a handful... :-\

Steve Shasta, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link

far too many opinions outweighing too few facts

OTM. this is what's always bugged me about ILM too.

m coleman, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 11:03 (thirteen years ago) link

The L.A.-area board is quite frustrating - lots of emphasis on trendy, "named" places and not as much on corner joints with really good food. I'd estimate that 80-85% of the "recommendations" on the board are for places that hold no interest for me (the few that I have tried have been a disappointment in terms of food and what I was charged for the lousy food).

On the other hand, there's 5-10% of the other posts that are really good - and I'm slowly learning which posters have tastes and interests similar to mine, to the point where I'll undertake a cross-town drive based on their recommendations. And I have found some wonderful "now on our regular rotation" places thanks to those recommendations.

I'm always amused (and horrified) by the amount of vitriol evidenced on the "Not About Food" threads.

MsLaura, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Sometimes I fear I was born too late for a good meal in New York. I arrived at Country as Doug Psaltis headed out, at Parea as Michael Symon closed shop and at Gramercy Tavern as Tom Colicchio was selling his interest. That said, Michael Anthony reinvigorated Gramercy’s dated menu and proved a restaurant need not lose its soul in a shift from rustic to refined cuisine. So I hold out hope as I watch the Harrison go in the opposite direction, with hearty Italian to be the new idiom under Amanda Freitag and the refined French-American of Brian Bistrong to be a thing of the past. For curiosity’s sake, I took in one last supper before the transition. Here are a few high and low points of my visit.

m coleman, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I mean who wants to eat food cooked by some NOBODY

m coleman, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

looked at "the hound" for the first time in awhile and wow, the manhattan board has really slipped. makes ILX these days look like Grand Central Station. mostly tourists posting.
but the threads where out of town foodies come to NYC and try to cram every restaurant they've heard about into a three day eating orgy are awesome. I read the reviews thinking: YOU'RE GONNA DIE...

are we human or are we dancer (m coleman), Sunday, 9 May 2010 23:15 (eleven years ago) link

i feel like all these regional kinds of boards get dominated by a handful of annoying pedants

sir gaga (s1ocki), Monday, 10 May 2010 03:02 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that definitely happens w/ the london one, it's pretty horrible but then i dont know what i expected from a website that says 'We're not talking about foodies. Foodies eat where they're told. Chowhounds blaze trails. They comb through neighborhoods for culinary treasure. They despise hype. And while they appreciate ambiance and service, they can't be fooled by flash.'

just sayin, Monday, 10 May 2010 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

chowhounds are pretty amazing if that's all true

sir gaga (s1ocki), Monday, 10 May 2010 12:39 (eleven years ago) link


call all destroyer, Monday, 10 May 2010 12:42 (eleven years ago) link

ten months pass...

looking at this board occ for absurd LOLs - like NRO/the corner. restaurant "reviewers" writing abt five hour lunches in impossibly OTT flowery prose, beyond self-parody.

gravity tractor VS asteroid B612 (m coleman), Monday, 21 March 2011 10:17 (ten years ago) link

I've visited this board twice recently! Once after googling 'raw pasta' and once for 'raw potato'. You will be delighted to know that I have only perpetuated the former sin.

WD-40 (acoleuthic), Monday, 21 March 2011 10:25 (ten years ago) link

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