Rolling CHALLENGING OPINIONS thread 2008

take that haterz!

you are so fucking wrong.

yeah christianity isn't crazy!! wanna come to church with me and chaki sometime, sunny?! we will show you! we're just normal folks

I bet a Christian could make a better peach cobbler than a Scientologist, but faith is faith, right?

MAYBE IM SAYING NEITHER CHRISTIANITY NOR SCIENTOLOFGY ARE CRAZY!

ASSUMERS

oh, well then you're way off

Yeah, Jesus, it was depressing when the fucking Joshua Tree did so well the first time it came out. If people who care about music enough to write about really think it was one of the most exciting reissues of 2007, I'm speechless.

-- xhuxk

Greg said over on the livejournal thread that, especially early on, the Hannah Montana TV show got over on its writing more than its acting, except that Miley is catching up as an actress. I only saw one episode, and an old one at that, but I wasn't pulled away from the story by seeing any obvious incompetence. I thought they should have ratcheted up the embarrassment more, since the premise of the episode was that dad gives Miley clothes that embarrass her. I did think she had a certain rapport with the bloke who plays her father. But as I said over on lj, the most alive thing on the show was the ridiculous dance Miley and Oliver do under the final credits.

-- Frank Kogan

"I only saw one episode"

for research, amirite??

With the curtains pulled, presumably

that is not all, that was pulled

LOL SHE MEANS HIS PENIS

Big leap there.

;);););)

lock and destroy top three ile threads at the moment, pleeeease

-- dell, Friday, 18 January 2008 09:46 (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

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it's not even an issue of self-righteous ethical whatever...it's just they're making me nauseous

-- dell, Friday, 18 January 2008 09:48 (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

BAN DELL thread, shall we toss a coin?

should be "nauseated"

or really "feel nauseated"

grammar nerds make me feel like i'm gonna barf

That's "I am going to barf".

should be "nauseated"

-- max, Friday, January 18, 2008 10:17 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link

or really "feel nauseated"

-- max, Friday, January 18, 2008 10:17 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link

coming from dell? no it should not.

bobby fischer is a great man, 1000x jello biafra

-- Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 12:30 (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

anyone who thinks he's an anti-semite should be shuffled into a gas chamber

-- Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 12:31 (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

I am of the opinion that Adam Green gets better with each successive solo release, and that he was pretty good to begin with.

-- henry s, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 16:08 (9 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

art is bunkum. modern art is rubbish.

-- darraghmac, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 06:48 (19 minutes ago)

damn son i thought we was fam

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:11 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

minstrel

-- Arms, Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:12 AM

there's no reason for religion to exist anymore, we should agree to can it for civics instead.

-- darraghmac, Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:38 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

This really is the Rolling Darraghmac thread, huh?

dell is pretty insane.

ban entire pakistan ip range

-- sanskrit, Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:50 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

didnt that already happen

Obama is pretty "clean," for a black! He's got my vote

-- Vichitravirya_XI, Monday, 31 December 2007 21:27

'Hen fap' has never been funny.

-- Matt DC, Tuesday, January 29, 2008 3:40 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS

-- HI DERE, Tuesday, January 29, 2008 3:42 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

...he getting ready for the race war in a shack in montana.

Yeah, but I love this look.

-- Laurel, Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:37 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

'Hen fap' has never been funny.

-- Matt DC

It wasn't funny to start but when it started irritating people, it got rather amusing!

'Hen fap' has never been funny

unibrows have never been funny either

who is your faviourite western philosopher from this list?

Challenging opinions rally

When was the last time I said "mah niggah?"

The only one i like all the way through is Goldfinger. Most of them are a bunch of action sequences without any effort put into connecting them.

-- abanana, Sunday, 10 February 2008 18:02 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

But voters from the deep south who would be susceptible to the racial politics dog whistle abandoned the Democrats in 1980 or so. So no, I don't think racial bias contributed at all significantly to Hillary's win among whites in LA.

-- Dickerson Pike

vince vaughn is better than dane cook

-- M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, February 11, 2008 12:45 PM

ya think?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61FpeBBIkhL._AA240_.jpg

# Whites a Minority? [Started by Bo Jackson Overdrive, last updated 2 hours ago] 33 new answers

oh for fucking fucks sake

What IS emo ? Are Sebadoh, Superchunk emo? If so, emo is a synonym for crap, isn't it?
-- Dr. C, Wednesday, 13 June 2001 00:00 (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

"emo is a synonym for crap" isn't really a "challenging" opinion though, is it? Like, if you went on that assumption, would you be missing out on awesome music? I doubt it.

Someone should start a rolling "ILXors whom Dom has beef with/grudge against" thread for lulz.

Hmmmm - I don't care about Dr. C calling emo crap but he's very very RONG with the implication that Sebadoh and Superchunk were either emo or crap.

Agreed

i thought "challenging opinions" was not actually a place for challenging opinions to be listed, but a place for things to be listed that the poster themself falsely believes to be a challenging opinion

People will spend 8 hours a day posting to ILM and spend $50 on 'brunch' but will still gawk at buying a nice pair of headphones ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

― 龜, Monday, August 18, 2014 11:55 AM (13 minutes ago)

tomscocca [1:13 PM] "Blue Velvet is terrible" is just a challop.

drew [1:13 PM] What is a challop

Samer [1:14 PM] drew: challenging opinion, i think

barry [1:14 PM] does a challop differ from a hot take?

Tommy Craggs [1:14 PM] "blue velvet" is a favorite of film-school types because it allows them to sneer at the rubes

tomscocca [1:14 PM] A hot take is a reaction to an event.

Tommy Craggs [1:14 PM] hence: "jeff koons: the movie"

marchman [1:14 PM] A challop is a challenging opinion that the person offering it doesn't actually believe, or expect anyone to believe he believes

tomscocca [1:14 PM] A challop is something that the person carries always around waiting to deploy.

Burneko [1:15 PM] blue velvet isn't even genuinely weird; it's superficially weird, and actually boring as hell

billy haisley [1:15 PM] blue velvet is way too straightforward to be a film-school type favorite

marchman [1:15 PM] "Blue Velvet is trash" is definitely a challop

marchman [1:15 PM] It's not weird at all, it's a very conventional movie

Tommy Craggs [1:15 PM] that's a challop

marchman [1:15 PM] It's just exceptionally well done

Tommy Craggs [1:15 PM] "blue velvet is not weird" is a challop

tomscocca [1:15 PM] Never imagined Deadspin would be so fired up for Columbus Day.

barry [1:16 PM] can't we start a "Deadspin olds" room and take this conversation there?

marchman [1:16 PM] How is it weird? It's bog standard suburban anomie

drew [1:16 PM] Stop saying challop. Now I want seafood

Burneko [1:16 PM] hahah

tomscocca [1:16 PM] "Anomie" Jesus Christ Marchman.

harvilla [1:16 PM] hot take: the word 'challop' sucks

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/does-david-lynch-suck-a-pointless-discussion-1643425148

blue velvet is terrible tho

i think the first person to use the term "challops" was roxy iirc

max introduced challop to gawker recently.... very few people are on board/use it correctly

I saw "challops" in a gawker comment yesterday. iirc, I spent a second or two trying to make sense of it in context.

I disagree with harvilla on "challop"

such a lively character (84 year-old Jodorowsky), his conviction (enthusiasm, bitterness etc.) is so apparent, it's really inspiring.

― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 2 November 2014 22:29 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Such a lively character" He is like a perfect composite of all the worst aspects of every pretentious bore you could meet in a lifetime and his movies are childish fucking idiotic garbage.

― xelab, Monday, 3 November 2014 00:17 (12 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

xelab ✓

Eminem, unretired.

Oh pish posh. He exploited the potential of cinema much more than either Chaplin or Keaton (both of whom, yes, exploited it exceedingly well and have many masterpieces under their belts). Tati may have surpassed Lewis on that level but he lacks Lewis' grotesque personality which is essential to his life-affirming effect. I'm reminded of something Richard Barrios's disdain for Al Jolson (a key Lewis progenitor) in The Singing Fool: "Charisma, when applied this relentlessly, becomes oppressive." But yo, Richard, that's precisely why we go to the movies (or listen to, I don't know, Morrissey): to witness a gargantuan, out of control ego as a way to measure the contours of our own steady paths. If I wanted an even-keeled experience, I'd knock on my neighbor's door and ask to borrow some sugar.

P.S. Pizza is stupid and boring.

― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:32 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, nice guy with crazy cinema knowledge but this place aint big enough etc

meant to say i miss that guy, is all

Fincher a weird choice for "class of 1999" as he'd already made his best movie, The Game, two years earlier

man

oh god

ppl who boost the game like its not a straight to video piece of hokum rmde

http://www.themistermen.co.uk/images/MrWrong.jpg

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Wow the rare Type B Challops

dont knock it there's a few of us might need a donor someday yet

Wow the rare Type B Challops

― The Reverend, Friday, January 16, 2015 3:25 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's like spotting a snow leopard in the wild

Kinda feel like "conventional wisdom stated as if it was contrarianism" is the one true challops and simple contrarianism is just simple contrarianism.

In a world where Satan's influence runs high, maybe

shd be read in the voice of the video trailer guy

"conventional wisdom stated as if it was contrarianism" is mostly lux aeterna nowadays imo

Nottingham Forest boss Stuart Pearce is "not a great coach, not a great tactician and not a great motivator", says former England defender Danny Mills.

challopian levels of stating the fucking obvious from Danny Mills

why are you being so rockist about pop?

― the discussions, the slanging matches, the banter, the lot (imago), Wednesday, June 10, 2015 11:05 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The best argument for Armisen not being a horrible person is his friendship with Carrie Brownstein, tbh. Hard to imagine her being best buds with the predator that Gawker article made him out to be.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, September 14, 2015 4:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

at this point i think people voting leave just hate all migrants/anyone who looks like a migrant, and that everyone voting to remain, just dont want to be seen to be hating migrants/anyone looking like a migrant. the people spoiling their ballots or not voting are the only ones you can trust.

― StillAdvance, Thursday, 23 June 2016 11:32 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Look at that. Look at it good and hard. This is where we're at.

Look at what they make you give

#Brenter

grawlix (unperson) wrote this on thread Anniversary poll: How many good songs are there on Sgt. Pepper's? on board I Love Music on May 25, 2017

Fuck the Beatles. Zero.

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten) wrote this on thread Anniversary poll: How many good songs are there on Sgt. Pepper's? on board I Love Music on May 25, 2017

These are all great songs.

C&P from blog view is always confusing to me at first

MST3K isn't very funny

Has it been noted that ilx basically discovered hot takes before they were called hot takes?

dead celebrities dont keep accumulating birthdays

im sorry its just how i feel

2008 was 12 years ago. Sorry that’s just how i feel

MST3K isn't very funny

― Karl Malone, Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:32 PM (four years ago)

i forgot about this, but still agree.

+ pulp is not a good band

It may be a challop but def agree, I think maybe you had to be there or I haven’t seen the right ones, I’m always like this is pleasant enough & has a low effort low energy vibe to match the boring 50s sci-fi films but given the affection ppl have for it… where are the laffs

The skits in between the movie bits are dire

pulp is not a good band

The skits in between the movie bits are dire

and baffling, if it weren't for those i might have been more inclined to give this show more than the one and a half chances i did.

def agree, maybe you had to be there or whatever but whenever someone got me to watch MST3K I was like this isn't funny at all and I'd rather just watch the b-movie without these annoying unfunny idiots talking all over it

i just assumed i was on the wrong drugs vs the fans

space mutiny is still funny to me but i completely understand anyone who finds the show unfunny. it’s pretty inconsistent

dirk hardpeck

gristle mcthornbody

Film parts: this comedy show isn’t haha funny but it’s quite nice, don’t get the obsession but I’m chuckling

Skits: alright this is some of the worst shit I’ve ever seen

I've seen many (and even love some) of the featured films but I still have yet to watch a MST3K. I dunno, if a movie is quip-inducing I guess I just prefer to generate the quips myself alongside whoever I'm watching it with.