Durutti Column: classic or dud

I dunno, I actually rather liked it, but keep in mind that was the first time I had ever heard the song in question. Has it been covered by everyone and their mother?

Favourites? Well I'm perverse so my faves are "Circuses and bread" (not least because it appeared in my life just when I needed a depressing record), "Another setting" (that Fender Rhodes!) and "Time is gigantic". And hell I even liked "Rebellion", not least for "Mello part 1", the best thing Vin's done in ages in my opinion. Sometimes it's just enough for him to sing and play solo guitar, that's enough.

And I keep meaning to take Ned to task for what he's said about "Friends in Portugal", don't believe Tony W's sleevenotes, it was a full 12 track album, y'know....

Good point about "I get along without you very well" too - rather partial to that one. And why isn't the PROPER version of "White rabbit" on the re-issues too...

Ned, is there a swipe at New Order in "The Missing Boy" ("same old order. . .") and why, if so? This is probably well-known, but there's a lot of post-punk lore I'm sure I don't know. I do like the line, "There was a boy. I almost knew him." (At least I think that's how it goes.) Oddly, I have only heard a live version of this on a ROIR cassette.

D'oh. Have to do some updating...

Ned, is there a swipe at New Order in "The Missing Boy" ("same old order. . .") and why, if so?

If it is, I'd not heard it described as such.

Yup. But you know me and lyrics. ;-)

Wednesday 8th September
Durutti Column live in session.

Latest Durutti Column news:

The Best of The Durutti Column, the compilation album formerly known as The Definitive Durutti Column, will be in the shops by the end of September 2004. Advance copies will be on sale at the Bridgewater Hall on 16 September. The 32-track double album has some very classy artwork and sensational photos by Rachel (McFarlane). The sleeve notes are by Vini Reilly and Anthony H Wilson.

According to Amazon UK this will be released on October 4th.

return of durruti column most amazing record ever,, Hannet on genius form with synths and drums, vini, soaring...

Somebody Elses Party, recent album, some great moments, but much of it ruined by some guy with laptop that produces quite a lot of it.

This is gonna make me sound too emo, but when I found out my granddad had died (and I was very close to him) I just put on "Prayer" and let it play on repeat for about an hour and just let the sadness take me over completely. I can't imagine anything else that would have captured sorrow and introspect of the moment any better.

My favorite album is actually Vini Reilly, but Another Setting, Return of, LC, and Without Mercy round out my top 5.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/radcliffe/

direct url for the real audio:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/rpms/r2_radcliffewed.rpm

(this should open in your browser. i always rightclick and select 'play in realplayer' as the controls are then easier to use)

I liked the guitar playing a lot. It reminded me of the Edge trying to sound like Jimi Hendrix. I didn't likethe backing tracks so much.

It made me think that I ought to have some of the DC's music. What do you think I would like?

If you were to choose a whole album I think you'd like 'The Return Of' (the debut), 'LC' (the second album), 'Without Mercy' or 'Vini Reilly'.

My fave is 'Obey The Time', but it may not be your cup of tea.

They cost like 30 dollars in america.

Great DC memory from 1985 - them doing half of Without Mercy live on the Tube 'Factory Special' one Friday night. Also on were Section 25 doing 'Hilltop' (a video - not live IIRC) and the Factory All-Stars fronted by Simon Topping, Beverly McDonald, Caesar amongst others doing various songs including LWTUA. On a FRIDAY TEA-TIME! Anyone else see this?

Disc one

1. Sketch For Summer
2. Conduct
3. Sketch For Winter
4. Lips That Would Kiss
5. For Belgian Friends
6. Danny
7. Never Known
8. Jacqueline
9. The Missing Boy
10. Prayer
11. Spent Time
12. Without Mercy 1
13. Without Mercy 2
14. The Room
15. Tomorrow
16. LFO Mod

Disc two

1. What Is It To Me (Woman)
2. Otis
3. Requiem Again
4. Home
5. Contra Indications
6. People's Pleasure Park
7. My Irascible Friend
8. Fado
9. Sing To Me
10. Pigeon
11. Mello (Part 1)
12. Falling
13. Woman
14. Requiem For Mother

Title: The Best of The Durutti Column
Label: Warner
Catalogue number: 5046753932
Release date: 11 October 2004

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0002XOZY2.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

A four CD reissue of Without Mercy? Why sure.

http://www.factorybenelux.com/without_mercy_fbn84.html

this bump made me nervous. happy to see this news

Looks great.

haven't listened to vini for ten years? have to fix that.

Uh, yes please

https://darla.com/products/durutti-column-the-obey-the-time

Factory Benelux presents a deluxe 3xCD box set edition of Obey the Time, the eighth studio album by Manchester ensemble The Durutti Column. Originally released by Factory Records in December 1990, the original 10 tracks have now been expanded to no less than 43.

Marking a further break with tradition, dance exploration Contra-Indications was taped with New Order programmer (and later co-manager) Andy Robinson. Released in December 1990, Obey the Time (Fact 274) would be the last Durutti Column album on Factory before the labelled collapsed beneath a mountain of debt.

The multitude of studio extras spread across Discs 1 and 2 include single and remix tracks The Together Mix and Kiss of Def, rare compilation cuts such as The New Fidelity, The Awards Show and Times Like These, and several extracts from two unreleased Factory albums recorded during the same 1989/90 period: Guitar One: House (Fact 254) and Guitar Two: Acoustic (Fact 264).

Disc 3 features 11 live tracks from a previously unreleased performance at Manchester University Whitworth Hall on 23 June 1990 (opportunistically billed as ‘The Acid Guitar’), on which Reilly and Mitchell are joined by guests Andy Connell, Liu Sola and Rob Gray.

3xCD tracklist:

Disc 1

1. Vino Della Casa Bianco
2. Hotel of the Lake 1990
3. Fridays
4. Neon
5. Home
6. Spanish Reggae
7. Art and Freight
8. The Warmest Rain
9. Contra-Indications
10. Vino Della Casa Rosso
11. The Together Mix
12. For Zinni III
13. Fridays (Up-Person Mix)
14. Kiss of Def
15. The New Fidelity

Disc 2

1. Together – Razormaid Mix
2.Megamix
3. Dry
4. Out of the Blue
5. Paradise Passage Road
6. Rope Around My Neck
7. Short
8. Boat People 1
9. Boat People 2
10. Grade 2 Duet
11. Octaves
12. For Madelaine II
13. Pete’s Riff
14. The Crowned Goddess
15. Times Like These
16. The Awards Show
17. My Country (Monarchy Mix)

Disc 3

1. Home (live)
2. What It Means to Me (live)
3. English Landscape Tradition (live)
4. Opera II (live)
5. Finding the Sea (live)
6. Otis (live)
7. Jacqueline (live)
8. Requiem Again (live)
9. Take Some Time Out (live)
10. The Missing Boy (live)
11. Sketch for Summer (live)

good, only a couple more until we get to the Time Was Gigantic reissue!

https://olivercherer.bandcamp.com/

Vini's guitar being used well.

saw this revive and simultaneously experienced two very different and extreme emotions:

VINI DIED.

VINI'S BACK.

both with this facial expression: O_O

glad i was wrong.

oh, he is literally using one of Vini Reilly's guitars!

x-post.

Yes, I have previously proposed a ban on this thread just because I always jump to the first of these.

Haven't actually heard the story of the guitar and wonder if it is mundane as "Vini sold his guitar"? Still, I have time for Cherer.

Might move this conversation to the Second Language thread - less traumatic for those watching.

https://boomkat.com/products/obey-the-time

yes

double yes.

hope they keep up this super-deluxe reissue series! there's just sex and death, fidelity, and time was gigantic left from the pre-2000 era...

hot take but time was gigantic is his best work.

only one I haven't really heard (it's available digitally now but I kinda want to wait for the reissue)... I know Vigil from Someone Else's Party is a reworked version of For Rachel and I love that song so

pretty much every song on the album was repurposed at some point or another. i had a theory some years back that it was the album he had been trying to make all throughout the 90s. it came out so well that he just continued to borrow from its ideas for the next decade or so.

Vini's birthday today, apparently.

Dave Haslam just posted this on Twitter:

"I know a number of people worry about Vini's health. I just popped round to his house with a birthday card and we had a brief conversation. He's looking good and doing Ok and we made plans for a proper catch-up soon."

today is indeed his birthday! nice update, thank you for sharing.

happy birthday Vini!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeI2BP0UVa4&feature=emb_logo

I saw in the liner notes on the new Idiot Savants LP pressing, that Someone Else's Party is next up for the vinyl press. Gotta get them all!

also that link doesn't work for me.

fixed link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeI2BP0UVa4

(that's video from September 2020... he looks good!)

Oh, sorry - hadn't realised the link hadn't worked.

Was just pleased to see Vini holding a guitar (I guess I'd felt a horror that maybe he couldn't?)

Apparently there's a new single but, I think, an old track and an unreleased track??

The same user has also uploaded another, longer video where vini's playing is a little less atonal. I only have the crappy mobile link thing for it though:

https://youtu.be/V6kPlJOBt4U

Absolutely brilliant clips!

I, too, fear the worst news whenever Andy sees this topic revived. But he is still here. It brings tears to my eyes to see him play, truly. He has had so many important things to say and the fact that the ability to use his musical voice was all but taken away form him is one of the least fair occurrences that I can remember. There is a lot of dust on the headstock of that Stratocaster in the clip that Nick posted. This is so discouraging. Vini is so brave though, for allowing himself to have video taken when his chops are not what they used to be. It is still the beautiful music that only he is capable of making.

Very bittersweet to see, but I am very glad that I was able to see them all the same. Thank you for posting, dj.

every single bedroom pop album from the past decade sounds at least a little bit like durutti

The original 3600 LP sleeves were made of coarse sandpaper (similar to the Situationist book Mémoires), designed to scratch LPs which were placed on either side of it.

every single bedroom pop album from the past decade sounds at least a little bit like durutti

― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Monday, November 16, 2020 10:15 AM

can confirm. source: my own music. it happens even when i'm not trying.

also enoch, not to be a total downer, but there is a possibility of that being the case because of vin's world view at that time. still a funny gag, especially if he was planning on making another record.

hey guitar players:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqh2L1-ZIAY

That doll thing behind him is absolute nightmare fuel

haha yes! almost as horrific as some of those thumb positions

Great YT channel tho', some really interesting choices!

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/jul/21/guitar-hero-vini-reilly-durutti-column-factory-records-interview

Hell of a read. You just want peace for him.

Yes and to go to Cordoba.

Yeah that’s a wonderful read. But I’m ashamed to admit I thought he died some years ago.

What Ned said.

Read this earlier today. So sad.

poor guy, but he sounds to be dealing with the situation about as best as could be hoped for. glad he's housed and seems to have some people who care about him.

I was shocked to hear a Durutti Column song on THE BEAR a few weeks ago. I remember that he asked fans for financial help some years back when he was on the verge of becoming unhoused

That scene in The Bear was so perfect too, hope he gets/got a good wedge for that.

According to Spotify he has 340,000 monthly listeners. Hopefully that’s enough to give him financial security.

But, yeah a poignant read. That line about gusts of wind blowing his words away is so vivid. Never knew about his early life on the streets or suicide attempts.

Always wondered what he got paid for having his music in "Jerry Maguire." That was a pretty major film, Tom Cruise for pete's sake.

Pretty shocking tbh. Amazed he survived, never mind made music, never mind that it was so wonderful xp

He should write a book. His instagram posts are great. Very political and very strongly worded. Doesn’t seem to have lost any energy on that front. And if this interview is any sign he has a lot to say.

There was this which I have but haven’t read! https://www.citizeneditions.com/products/calm-by-vini-reilly-second-edition

A great man.

xp You should read that now! And then send it to me, because it is sold out :(