CAN....S and D?

Search: The first six albums (Monster Movie, Soundtracks, Tago Mago (!), Ege Bamyasi, Future Days, Soon Over Babaluma).

Destroy: Pretty much everything else, although Landed has its moments.

'Monster Movie' is still my fave, tho' - and personally I LOVE the lyrics to 'Yoo Doo Right' (so does Bobby Gillespie - he pretty much lifted them wholesale for 'Movin' On Up'....)

Destroy: the mostly v. poor remix alb.

Can is awesome. I wouldn't put them in the same "must hear" category as somebody like Kraftwerk, though. All the albums I have (thru Future Days) have both dull moments and great tracks. I kind of wish they'd been an instrumental band.

It starts getting good from Soundtracks on. Future Days is simply awesome.

The whole disco period is ok, if you're a big Can fan, but I wouldn't start there (although I love Holger Czukay's "Movies" album).

What I've heard of Ege Bamyasi and Tago Mago sounded appealing, especially the former.

anyway, my favorite is still probably future days although everything they did has moments.

Destroy: _Out of Reach_, which the band hated so much it's never been reissued, and with good reason.

Tons of Can threads so might as well revive this one for this link -- Irwin Schmidt on food, music and democracy:

http://thequietus.com/articles/00813-irmin-schmidt-of-can-on-food-and-cooking-plus-a-recipe-tip

I know it's not meant to be any good, but the completist in me needs to buy a copy of 'Out Of Reach' - are any of the CD versions better or worse than others in terms of sound quality? I've read that, since it's been disowned and not officially reissued, the CD versions often come from poorly done vinyl transfers.
Any tips for which of the grey-area CD versions to try and locate?

Thanks

If there's a Can forum or similar where such a question might also have been answered by knowledgeable geeks then please point me that way too.

I dont know about sound quality, but there are several different versions floating around - at least in Europe. The one released by Audelic contains Out Of Reach and the self titled album and is pretty cheap, there should be also a more recent version from Cleopatra (!) that according our supplier's database should be easily available.

Thanks Marco. I didn't think to check for standardly available copies, assuming that the grey-area aspect would write them off, but I think I see the copy you mention, thought the UK distributor for Cleopatra isn't entirely clear and we definitely don't deal with whoever Synergie are ourselves. I'll try to see if maybe Cargo, F-Minor or PHD have it on their books.

I think that all these versions are basically non-legit.
I saw the Cleopatra version is available through Bertus, a big Dutch supplier: I'm pretty sure all good UK distributors work with them.

Cheers, that will probably help to know. If I can get it through the shop that's a bonus as I have a lot of left over holiday pay to write off.

add to search: the peel sessions - "Up the Bakerloo Line w/Annie" sounds like an acid trip. in a good way

I found it on a mp3 blog a few nights ago, Haven't listend to it yet.... not actually sure I want to. nothing worse than a bad album by a favourite band.

Oh, I know it's not meant to be good. I want it purely for completeness reasons.

Is it 'bad'?

Or just 'bad by their standards'?

It is truly and definitely BAD: the eponymous album has more than a couple of good moments, but Out Of Reach is pretty indefensible.
That said, I'm the proud owner of a copy exactly for the same reasons of Krakow. :)
The BBC album, instead, is marvellous and a fascinating glimpse into the band's compositional methods.

The best things on it are the Rosko Gee songs

Anyone else think "Inner Space" is under-rated? I'm not sure it's up there with the canonical records, but it's close IMO.

first time I've heard the recorded version of this track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxFYCE6VIt4&feature=related

delay is ok... "the thief" is a banger

Is Cannibalism worth bothering with? The remix of Yoo Doo Right sounds like warmed-over trip hop to me...

you mean Sacriliege? the Cannabalism albums are just compilations

Cannibalism 2 has a few of my fave Can moments (the crazy/fun Mother Upduff is supposedly a true story; Turtles Have Short Legs one of damo's best vocals; Shikiku Maru Ten also excellent wierdness)
the first Cannibalism is less essential if you already have the early Can records but there's a few different mixes iirc.
and yeah, Sacrilege had a couple pieces i liked but i only recall the Sonic youth one right now....

cannibalism ii's just such a great listen - it's edited together so well, the first clutch of songs p much sync up & match jaki's drums up iirc.

I never tried Cannibalism 1 since I have all the albums, plus I hate how "Yoo Doo Right" is the only full length piece there. Cannibalism 2 seems good but if you have Radio Waves and Unlimited Edition then it's kinda superfluous. Cannibalism 3 is a collection of solo material and it's actually pretty entertaining (though disappointing if you're expecting a lot of great instrumental stuff). As for the remix collection, I really thought it was a big wasted opportunity, you'll probably wind up liking 1-2 of the remixes and find the others a waste of time

Ah yes, sorry, I do mean Sacrilege. It's the 3p mix of Yoo Doo Right that didn't sound too great to me, some of the other remixers might do a better job though.

amazing tune, sounds like a cosmic beer hall

I assume, by now, we've all seen the clip of Can playing "I Want More" on Top of the Pops - the one where Michael Karoli has been replaced by some guy who looks like Lou Reed, which is unfortunate as Karoli was the only member of Can who could conceivably pass for a pop star. Well, here's a clip of them playing it, with Karoli, with added bonus of some hilarious German comedy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVDqR8Del_Q

!!!!! thank you

All Gates Open one of my fave Can songs.

"Soon Over Babaluma" is post-Damo, definitely no drop-off there.

Gee “I Want More” sounds like an influence on Talking Heads’ “I Zimbra” to me.

"Soon Over Babaluma" is post-Damo, definitely no drop-off there.

Great to see the Can/Inner Space album get recognized, for me it’s the best post-Babaluma record

There was a package with this and Out of Reach together which I think maybe convinced some people they were both crap

I don't think many people were interested in Can by 1979 tbh.

Or by a new album by Can in 1979 rather.

one time I listened to Soon Over Babaluma while totally zonked and had an epiphany that it was about making pasta

Dizzy Dizzy is gathering the ingredients, Come Sta is impatiently waiting for the water to heat up, Splash is when the bubbles start forming, Chain Reaction is when the water starts boiling like crazy, Quantum Mechanics is the moment you drop the spaghetti in

idk it made a lot of sense at the time

I like this interpretation

was listening to The Individualism of Gil Evans earlier and thinking how much it reminded me of Can, only no matter good how amazingly great a drummer Jaki was - he was no Elvin Jones!

I don’t think I’d heard “All Gates Open” before - thank you for that!

tomorrow, then (some people already have their copies) https://canofficial.bandcamp.com/album/live-in-brighton-1975-2

oon thanks

oon ooh

Prepare to meet thine oon

Oon Over Babaluna (Babaloona?)

Listened from Eins to Vier this morning - it's another stellar release

I bought it on Bandcamp but they haven't released the downloads yet. WTF?!?

hey!!! there are vocals on this one!! what the hell

Downloads now available.

Drei and Vier put some seriously frantic drive on the Dizzy, Dizzy and Vernal Equinox grooves!

Are these the same versions that are on Live 71-77?

This was a really fun listen. I don't really know how it compares to the Stuttgart show...on both I just kinda zone out to the endless grooves. I think this one was a little better. It definitely went harder in spots. also the last track being sort of an extended jam on the "Vitamin C" ending was neat.

also it does feature a very quiet section on Side E (Sechs) - you can hear some people's conversations. kinda wild that random conversations had 46 years ago are now being heard by thousands of people (not that you can make out what's being said)

That’s my favorite part of the live recordings on 71-77 — the audience clapping is a whole other dimension to to the music. It’s part of why I think that version of Yoo Doo Right is superior to the recorded version. It’s so fun in the beginning and then at the end there is applause and you remember the whole thing was recorded live. What??!!! Amazing.

Are these the same versions that are on Live 71-77?

drum break on Brighton Zwei is my reason to live at the moment - the funk heart of Bel Air

The Brighton set gets to the point more immediately, I think - it’s crunchier, longer.

And the crowd noise is an important ingredient. If you’re in public listening through earbuds or headphones it can trick you a little.

Any thoughts on what the themes for the artwork of the Live 1975 releases may be based on? Stuttgart/butterflies, Brighton/submarine..

Next live archival release announced

https://canofficial.bandcamp.com/album/live-in-cuxhaven-1976

One LP (and CD version) this time!

Sounds good, mind!

yessssss

I love the first two releases in this series but I'm also very, very cool with it being a single LP.

did the bootlegger capture anything from the Damo era?

celebrating this news by smoking weed and listening to can

👍🏽

did the bootlegger capture anything from the Damo era?

I gather this one didn't, based on past interviews.

love this stuff, can't get enough.

loved stuttgart
still need to get around to ordering Brighton

Was lucky enough to get a promo just now -- certainly quick, just half an hour long as noted, but four good jams, just being their exploratory selves.

any recognizable bits? (maybe with a spoiler tag?)

definitely some "bel air" in here

listening to Saw Delight for the first time in like, a decade. I forgot how much Sunshine Day and Night made me smile. Call Me is a great tune too. It sounds like Mooney-era Can, but on uppers instead of downers. Fly By Night is so damn fun too. I actually think it's an interesting take on funk. Because they aren't quite a funk band like that. With some of these grooves it sounds like it's their first time playing them, but they're total pros so they get it right anyway.

and the drumming on "Animal Waves"! Wicked. imagine if you could isolate that.

It's the first of their albums I ever heard and I still love it, massively underrated

That's my feeling about Flow Motion