This really was Jeff Porcaro's (God rest his soul) finest moment. Those ghost notes on the snare make me want to strut.
Resounding, unabashed, timeless classic
― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link
The song itself isn't quite that much of a classic though. "Africa" and "Georgy Porgy" were better.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link
But Geir, don't you think the dynamics of the song give it something over the others?
― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link
a la Porcaro, or more of a Purdie shuffle?
― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 16 November 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 16 November 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 16 November 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link
The dynamics are kind of great, but still nothing when compared to the dynamics of a lot of Toto's prog influences.
I guess, that is the main flaw about Toto and lots of other similar AOR acts. The musicians could have done more complex stuff, but preferred to do it the easier way and keep within the 4 minute limit to grant them airplay etc.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 16 November 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link
I think that is the virtue of Rosanna: the balance of prog roots from seasoned studio guys and pop sensibility. I personally enjoy listening to a band who is holding their talent close, knowing that they could unleash at any moment.
sidenote: the Dune soundtrack was a keeper too
― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Thursday, 16 November 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 16 November 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link
True..but what they were attempting did. And they acheived it.
― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Thursday, 16 November 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 16 November 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― billstevejim (billstevejim), Thursday, 16 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― dave q (listerine), Thursday, 16 November 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link
It wasn't until I saw the video that I realized that there were two lead singers on this song. Wasn't paying that much attention, I guess.
Toto's always been one of those faceless bands to me, like Ozark Mountain Daredevils or Player.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 16 November 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 16 November 2006 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― From the Moon to Pluto Back Down to Earth (Rrrickey), Thursday, 16 November 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― From the Moon to Pluto Back Down to Earth (Rrrickey), Thursday, 16 November 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link
fair enough...I guess by 'finest moment' i wanted to indicate that it was a signature track for his style.
― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― From the Moon to Pluto Back Down to Earth (Rrrickey), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― From the Moon to Pluto Back Down to Earth (Rrrickey), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link
You are right: I mean, he was a studio guy. He could play whatever was needed, and play it damn well. I guess the "Rosanna Shuffle" is sort of his hallmark beat, the synthesis of the Purdie shuffle and Bonzo's beat on 'fool in the rain.'
As for Steely Dan, they sure plucked from the greats, didn't they? Gadd, Porcaro, Purdie, Hodder and Chevy Chase.
― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Thursday, 16 November 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― maura (maura), Thursday, 16 November 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 16 November 2006 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link
For me, that is where Rosanna gets its stamina: its singularity.
― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Thursday, 16 November 2006 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 16 November 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link
anyway, i guess there is a "coke room" where everything is mirrored fo' better snortin' action.
― M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― derrick (derrick), Friday, 17 November 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link
^^^this
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link
"Der Kommisaar's in town ah ow"
― Mark G, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.guitarworld.com/artists-artist-news/hear-steve-lukathers-isolated-guitar-totos-rosanna/28823
so good
― niels, Thursday, 17 March 2016 21:36 (eight years ago) link
Will listen later, thanks. In case it hasn't been said on this thread yet, Steve Lukather studied with a very well-respected, much-loved, sorely missed guitar player and teacher named Jimmy Wyble.
― Twin/Earthtone Records (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 March 2016 21:49 (eight years ago) link
Oh that's awesome, I love this kind of thing. Hearing the isolated drum and vocal tracks were even more fun than the guitar, but it's pretty crazy all the different playing styles that the guitar goes through
― Vinnie, Friday, 18 March 2016 00:16 (eight years ago) link
I can't fault Toto as musicians, but dud.
― // 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Friday, 18 March 2016 00:23 (eight years ago) link
The beginning of the guitar solo, when Porcaro moves from the hi-hat to the ride, is one of my favourite things
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 18 March 2016 00:57 (eight years ago) link
yeah thx of that link. i sorta had forgotten this song even existed but those isolated tracks are all fantastic
― dynamicinterface, Friday, 18 March 2016 01:05 (eight years ago) link
i hate to that guy but somehow this video dilutes the musicianship that is highlighted in niels' link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmOLtTGvsbM
― dynamicinterface, Friday, 18 March 2016 03:52 (eight years ago) link
ha yeah it'd be nice to hear the backing tracks without the dudes yapping over it but still very cool.
― lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 18 March 2016 03:54 (eight years ago) link
lol, bobby Kimball's mustache.
dude has no voice anymore. at recent Toto shows the rest of the band has played live while he has lip synched to his pre-recorded tracks from the 80s.
― Neanderthal, Friday, 18 March 2016 04:35 (eight years ago) link
well recent until they canned his ass again, Joseph Williams is in the band now
jeff porcaro's shuffle on this song is wild
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2016 04:46 (eight years ago) link
The particular kind of stylized prop-ness of women in 80's videos is sometimes jarring for me now.
― human life won't become a cat (man alive), Friday, 18 March 2016 14:39 (eight years ago) link
i'm becoming rather a fan of the film score these nerds did for Dune
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Friday, 18 March 2016 14:39 (eight years ago) link
Anyway, going to have to go with dud -- a lot of great musical elements that somehow don't add up to anything. In an indirect way, this band supports the case for the genius of Fagen/Becker.
― human life won't become a cat (man alive), Friday, 18 March 2016 14:43 (eight years ago) link
In other Toto-related links, Jeff Porcaro sure did a lot of studio sessions:
http://jeffporcaro.blogspot.dk/2001/01/jeff-porcaro-sessions.html
― niels, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 09:33 (eight years ago) link
btw man alive otm re toto as supporting the case for the genius of Fagen/Becker
― niels, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 11:57 (eight years ago) link
Not quite a year
― calstars, Thursday, 23 January 2020 03:38 (four years ago) link
Meetchu all da way
― calstars, Thursday, 23 January 2020 03:40 (four years ago) link
i love this fuckin song
― Rhoda from Steubenville (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 January 2020 03:44 (four years ago) link
Rosanna, yeah
― calstars, Thursday, 23 January 2020 03:52 (four years ago) link
this is a perfect song
― a talented ‘Rebel’ with Balls (Spottie), Thursday, 9 September 2021 21:56 (two years ago) link
yes
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 September 2021 22:23 (two years ago) link
All I wanna do is never ever wanna do is never compromiiize
― calstars, Thursday, 9 September 2021 22:33 (two years ago) link
*synth solo*
― clouds, Friday, 10 September 2021 01:36 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMI81yIlT0Q
― calstars, Friday, 10 September 2021 02:30 (two years ago) link
YEAH-HEY-YEAAAHHH
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 September 2021 02:35 (two years ago) link
that porcaro video is completely insane. so is yoyoka's version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P-tTLmuKo0
― call all destroyer, Friday, 10 September 2021 03:13 (two years ago) link
i do view this song as a sort of apotheosis of 80s corporate rock and agree that it's pretty much perfect
― call all destroyer, Friday, 10 September 2021 03:20 (two years ago) link
it rules imo
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 September 2021 03:35 (two years ago) link
Banana, yeah
― calstars, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 00:55 (two years ago) link