Psychic TV - S&D

i meant to put that on the 1001 songs thread

I also remember a good live performance LP from a German live series, backed with a terrific metal percussion performance by Z'ev. That's worth getting, anyone remember what it was called?

The record with PTV and Z'ev was "Berlin Atonal". Will it ever be re-released?

Oi you!
Oi you skinhead!
Kick an 'ead kick an 'ead kick an 'ead skinhead!!!

Oi you!
Oi you skinhead!
Chicken head chicken head chicken head skinhead!!!

Which is of course pure genius.

PTV were really firing around this time. Anyone join their religious cult? They were into T-shirts as iconic religious fetish objects.

Oh no, I'm thinking about Psychic TV again.

I saw Psychic TV last night. I mainly just went out of admiration for Genesis P. because I'd said if h/she ever came here, no matter what the circumstances I'd have to go. Aside from one album (Towards The Infinite Beat) I've never been impressed with Psychic TV on a musical level, and the new album didn't do a whole lot to change that (well to be fair, I just found most of it far too depressing). So I expected to get bored after about three songs and go home. Instead they were absolutely fantastic, and even though I was dead tired after a time and new I had to go to work in the morning, I just could not bring myself to leave until I knew they had finished. Musically everything was right on as well. They even did a cover of Velvet Underground's Foggy Notion. S/he also did plenty of ranting about the Bush administration which I appreciated because *I'm* usually the one to go uncomfortably overboard with that. S/he said he wanted to stick a fist up their nether regions. I loved it.

yah they rock live right now

There isn't a live album yet of this incarnation is there?

i dont think so. maybe theres one being sold on the tour?

hearing this news makes me happy

go GPO!

Actually, I'm finding out that the most remarkable thing this year is not the Throbbing Gristle album or the Psychic TV album but this other album called Thee Majesty's "Vitruvian Pan" (good heavens, *three* albums this year for Gen! S/he is on a roll!)

Thee Majesty have a myspace page, but for some reason I'm unable to link to it here.

they canceled their appearance in Atlanta, I was gonna go :(

So sad! :(

I wonder if Von Sudenfed will tour. In my opinion, that would just about make up for it if I was in your shoes and missed Psychic TV. The DJ actually played Von Sudenfed before the gig. It was great.

What would be the best way to sell a bunch of Psychic TV vinyl (including some pretty rare material)? I am afraid I will hardly get anything for it at a used record store, but I dread dealing with ebay and boxing it up and mailing it off and worrying about it getting damaged, or worrying that someone might claim it's been damaged when it hasn't, etc.

Also, any thoughts on whether this is this a good moment to be selling rare PTV vinyl? (Like, what do you think the market for it is like these days?)

I think that I would pay you good money for NY Scum Haters or Mouth Of The Night (or a few other things). I don't think the market is at quite the feverish level it was in the pre-filesharing days. Seriously, price it out at some reasonable level and post it here. Other people have done the same and it beats eBay.

Ha, I don't have Mouth of the Night, but I remember seeing that used all over the place (of course, I mean around 15 years ago).

(Don't have New York Scum Haters either, though I have the original CD reissue FWIW.)

sleeve is OTM

I didn't know Mouth of the Night was rare... I'm rich! Woohoo! Hear that, boss? You can take my job and shove it! *high fives self*

Some controversy around their Phoenix gig.
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2007/08/genesis_porridge_drops_pr_bomb.php

Rockist: Ebay is your best bet. Describe it well, pack it in firm LP mailers (boxes are sometimes requested but usually are a waste of time/postage), and you should be fine. I've sold tons of stuff and only ever had one LP damaged in-transit (buyer claimed against postoffice).

Seriously, the 'returns' will be better there.

Some controversy around their Phoenix gig.

Last time I heard, you still have a dick, asshole (GPO, that is.)

uh? what makes him an asshole in this instance>?

I too, will defend Genesis. Does anyone else here appreciate the song from the new Psychic TV album called "Lies And Then"? That is the only song I really particularly like off that album. It's a beautiful burst of pure alternating pop/punk vitriol, in my opinion.

That is an interesting article, joost. Thanks for posting it.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/PTV_three%20%282007%29.jpg

what is much more interesting to ME than the issue of where GPO can pee or not is that it appears from the above picture that he's taking his fashion tips from paul wall:

http://www.algierz.com/images/paulwallpic.jpg

Yeah I was surprised when I saw her/him on stage that she/he actually had those same gold teeth as in that picture. Or at least s/he was determined to keep fake ones!

Does anyone know something about the ideology behind the thransgender esthetics of Genesis.

Well I've always heard that the whole point is to surgically make Gen & Lady Jaye the same person. I haven't been able to find much "ideology" about it beyond that, but I'll dig out my magazine again from a couple of years ago and see if I can find anything I missed. I don't believe that Gen has taken hormones, which is why I believe people in-the-know might hesitate to directly call him/her transgendered. Although it's obvious that socially, s/he must bear the brunt of anything a transgendered person would.

All I can find on the Gen website is a paragraph or two on hermaphrodites, which is really another subject entirely than either transgendered people or whatever Gen is.

Actually, if you go to here and wait until part two of the video interview, s/he talks about the ideology in more depth.

Thanx!

Genesis P. Orridge for president. Please.

Thee Majesty's "Time's Up" is the creme de la creme.

http://genesisp-orridge.com/index.php?section=news&id=111&album_id=1

Lady Jaye died suddenly on Tuesday 9th October 2007 at home in Brooklyn, New York from a previously undiagnosed heart condition which is thought to have been connected with her long-term battle with stomach cancer. Lady Jaye collapsed and died in the arms of her heartbroken "other half" Genesis Breyer P-Orridge.

or was this posted already?

Um. That's terrible news. :(

THis is the story...I'm sorry Lady Jaye has gone...she wuz one of the rollink stones...and we say goodbye...is sad...fronting in the face of the idiots who say no. goodbye. scenes of goodbye. LJ peace out there

PLOD

PLOD

JUSS LIKE A KISS

JUSS LIKE DISS

YA HAVE TO DRAW CHARTS FOR THE YEAR

HERE

HERE

eNDLESS, qOELET. SMarting

what the fuck. how sad.

Oh, Jesus. Oh god. I feel for Gen so much. Ouch. Holy hell. I just don't want to know.

poor gen.

A Caresse is just a touch,
and you touched my
heart, and now that
we're together
you and I will never part.

oh no, this is really awful news. for real.

doing a tribute show now...

http://www.kwvaradio.org

Hookah Chalice is making my entire day right now.

From the Village Voice:

Artist Provocateur Genesis Breyer P-Orridge Lives By the Last Exit To Brooklyn

This is awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H17tf7Pe7J0

Anyone know if they're still touring?

"Whatever you are is a mirror of what we are."

For those who care:

Angry Love Productions is proud to present Psychic TV's 1983 classic "Dreams Less Sweet," back on vinyl for the first time in over 20 years! This is a limited-edition run of 1,000 copies total. The first 320 copies will be on red vinyl available UK as a special WEB ONLY Angry Love Edition featuring a bonus CD of extra material, a limited edition badge and a 12 page, 8" square booklet featuring liner notes by Genesis Breyer P-Orridge as well as ephemera and photos of the recording sessions from the Porridge With Everything archives. The remainder of the copies will be available on the web and in stores as a black vinyl edition with no extras. The album is being distributed in the U.S. through Revolver.

YES! Been waiting for this. "The Orchids" might be my favourite song, at least sometimes.

shame they didn't add the 12" that came with the original release. "catalan" from that features one of the best uses of the chapman stick bass ever recorded. maybe they stuck it on the bonus cd?

they did, along with the superb "The Full Pack" and other stuff, CD-R though...

http://www.discogs.com/Psychic-TV-Dreams-Less-Sweet/release/4180047

limited to 320 copies, fuck you Angry Love Productions

"The Orchids" might be my favourite song, at least sometimes.

otm

"Catalan" features Jordi Vals right?

Jordi Vals is one of my favorite peripheral Psychic TV figures -- he made an entire LP out of two attack dog samples he recorded for "The Full Pack"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSA-S8NWMDk

"Catalan" features Jordi Vals right?

yes, it does.i have that lp of the attack dog samples. i don't think i veer made it all the way through.

....ever made it....

Best PTV album by a country mile. Love that bit with the Holophonics where if you listen on headphones in the dark it sounds as if you're being buried alive.

i think i'd have to toss a coin to decide whether this or "force the hand..." was better. it also has some holophonic delights on it too.

Fuck me this is amazing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPvD2iK1TPg

I'm saddened that no one seems to wanna talk about this.

kinda lost interest in ptv around 1988 tbh

seeing them this weekend

"Dreams Less Sweet" was an important album to me when I was 16/17. I didn't know anything about them, I got a cassette copy of it from a friend, and it wasn't like any other music I listened to at the time. This was right when I had gotten my driver's license, and I liked to drive around country roads at night with that tape on, imagining some kind of pagan horrors in the cornfields.

really don't like this trend of selling masters to classic 80's albums:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Psychic-TV-The-Pack-Original-Ampex-406-Master-/252278008339?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Psychic-TV-GoGo-Terminus-Guiltless-Original-Ampex-456-Master-/252278007397?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/23-Skidoo-The-Play-Original-Ampex-456-Master-/252277997820?

http://youtu.be/9rBkzWulwiw?t=9m42s

Genesis and Paula cameo on MTV Buzz, 1990.

thanks!

still pissed about those masters above, wtf

Their contributions pop up periodically until the end of that clip, incidentally.

I'm more amazed than outraged to see masters being sold on ebay. How did they end up in the hands of someone who would sell them their?

I know, right? I mean, I guess if you have a high-quality backed up digital transfer you could live without it, but still!

There are only twenty-three words.

http://www.pnas.org/content/110/21/8471/T1.expansion.html

Groupthink and Other Painful Reflections on ​Thee Temple ov Psychick Youth

that was an interesting read. the whole dark magick neofolk post industrial diaspora seems to be populated with the most shady motherfuckers

I was sort of relieved that David Tibet got shot of that scene sharpish since I see him round town quite often and I'd rather it stay an "oh look there goes David Tibet" thing than a there goes that abusive cunt thing

terribly written article but interesting repository of info about how much of a twat ol' gen is

Yeah it wasn't well written at all, I guess you have to read the long list of references to find out what was actually supposed to have happened which I will try to do soonish

Sorry that was a bit flippant, the stuff from Cosey was bad enough, just a lot of it was a bit vague. I don't have anything invested in Psychic TV or TOPY so I should probably stfu til I read it properly

Monte Cazazza has passed RIP

RIP to an excellent provocateur who never seemed to lose himself in mean-spiritedness or questionable ideology like some of his contemporaries

Search his interview in the "Pranks" book