Amon Tobin....crud or cool

Tobin = super-mega-CLASSIC!

Anyway, classic, though Supermodified didn't really do much for me.

Only vaguely aware of him before the Chris Morris collaboration and "Supermodified"; the latter is a blinding record, as dense as you like and hip-nudging throughout.

supermodified boring tho. like the last track. check 'me in my garden', and 'nightlife' ( ikinda guessed those titles'...)

Classic all the way, I couldn't give a shit if he sold his music for McDonalds/Gap Collaborative Edible Hats, I'd still love his work. Shame so many of my friends won't listen to him now he's on the TV or getting played in a club.

n.b. I'm totally implicated here, but my comments are sincere!

Reviving because Foley Room is decent but mostly just inspired me to dust off Bricolage and Permutation again and Permutation is still fucking monstrous.

Permutation and DJ Food's Kaleidescope sent me on a completely fruitless 2 year binge of buying Ninja Tune stuff trying to recapture the first high.

In retrospect, the only really essential Ninja Tune albums are Permutation, Cold Krush Kuts and the Animals on Wheels album; a lot of the rest of the catalogue has amazing moments that don't really sustain for the entire album.

anyone else enjoying the Two Fingers album? kinda forgot about it for a while, but shit rocks

Jaga Jazzist and Super Numeri albums also ace, not to mention the Solid Steel mixes (but especially the first). Foley Room was better than I expected, but it's definitely not close to his earlier stuff.
What's Two Fingers; I haven't heard of it?

more good stuff on ninja tune

• coldcut, let us play
• mr scruff, keep it unreal
• maybe the kid koala lps (?)

xp: It's his kind of dubsteppy hiphop album with Doubleclick and Sway

this track is by far the heaviest thing dude has been involved in, it's so sick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNelGwlz_NU

this would be a great track to blast in traffic with some HQ subs
the vvvvvvv sound that attaches and detaches itself to the bass is very original to me
however, I don't listen to much techno anymore

I give the song an A+ for what it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLrt7-kIgIM&feature=player_embedded#at=279

dope

He's only doing six dates? And I already missed the only one in the Americas?

I'm researching music for a project I'm working on, and the person I'm working for is in love with Amon Tobin. I'm not as in love with them, and so I'm looking for other artists similar that I may like more. Complex, melodic, complicated, layered.

Third Eye Foundation is one that I feel might work, but I need a few more.

Any help would be appreciated.

That two fingers track featured in an adidas ad. Had no idea it was him, good one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJGUweER2UA

^^^love that one so much

As for Amon Tobin songs, assemblagist... mmm I'm assuming you're not a fan of his usually frenetic programming. Here's a POX of his songs which are more 'delicate' while keeping his particular style and remain layered enough:

Deo
Slowly
Mighty Micro People
Easy Muffin
Nova
Natureland
Nightlife

As Cujo:

Brazillianaire
Fat Ass Joint
Superstars of Rock

If you're looking for an even more safe sound you can try Boards of Canada or Bonobo's "Dial M for Monkey"... not precisely in the same league as Amon Tobin but people who enjoy him tend to enjoy those two.

I actually meant Bonobo's debut 'animal magic'... but dial M is alright too.

two fingers is the brostep it's ok to like

listening to the two fingers full-length, it's like half old aphex twin vibes intercut with crazy arena synths. "fools rhythm" is still the best cut by far.

The second one? The first one is more partnered with vocalists, the second one is all him playing with genre

thought the record was just OK, didn't excite me enough to go back to it. also lol @ a couple of so-so bonus track with Peedi Crakk, because the idea of him and Amon Tobin working together would've made me shit my pants 10 years ago.

the newest one, 'stunt rhythms'. so was the first one with doubleclick and the second one is amon solo?

I think so

yeah that was the impression i got.

the doit? what do we do with the doit from the tunnel?

http://www.amontobin.com/news/new-amon-tobin-album-set-for-release-early-2019

To say that I'm excited and feverish in my anticipation would be a gross understatement.

please be sample-heavy

I wish he “returns to basics” on this one... he is a brilliant producer but it feels to me like he lost the ability to write a decent song, nothing he has released in the past 15 years has any replay value for me, it sounds gorgeous but it’s all style and no content, which ends up making every track overproduced.

It’s specially frustrating because he is clearly really, really good and towers above the rest of the ninjatune roster. His “sound design” is on a next level. Maybe producing (not remixing) for other artists in different genres would be a helpful reminder to keep things simple.

Yesssss

It’s specially frustrating because he is clearly really, really good and towers above the rest of the ninjatune roster. His “sound design” is on a next level. Maybe producing (not remixing) for other artists in different genres would be a helpful reminder to keep things simple.

I mean his recent Two Fingers release was pretty simple and more catchy/dance oriented, comparatively. I feel I'm in the minority in that I feel he's done nothing but improve upon his sound and output over his entire career. I would love to hear something even more ambitious and abstract in terms of sound design, or perhaps meld the sounds of ISAN with some percussion and atmosphere of his earlier work. Either way, considering his last two albums were fairly sonically conceptual, I expect nothing less from this one.

I agree. He's never going back to samples, c'mon.

At the time I felt like ISAM didn't have any hooks, but it's also amazing and ahead of its time. Feels prescient wrt some of the cinematic, sound design-heavy, high-impact music that's followed. Looking forward to a new one.

I never claimed it was a reasonable request, but it's what I want. Two Fingers is great ISAM was ... eh maybe I should listen again.

https://soundcloud.com/amon-tobin/on-a-hilltop-sat-the-moon/s-IxxhD

we are satisfied

Anybody know why Four Ton Mantis and Easy Muffin vanished from Spotify, iTunes etc? Must be sample clearance, but I can't even get that confirmed. Kinda weird that a fairly prominent artist has had some of their best work disappeared and no peep about it.

I guess it’s been a long time since I’ve listened tonAmon Tobin because I was not expecting such an abstract record from him. I like the new record.

cool

there is some good stuff on the new one, don't know if I'll come back to it much but glad he's still there doing his thing.

Amon Tobin meets T. S. Eliot, huh. I didn't much like ISAM but I adore Amon Tobin at his best, so here's to cautiously hoping.

Oh yeah I've been meaning to check this out.

I have seen Amon Tobin in three different places today (on my iPod shuffle, on a list of the best Canadian artists (though he's Brazilian or Brightonian ikr), on ilxor). Sign I should buy the new one in any case.

Enjoying this album more than I remember. Wasn't really what I was looking for at the time, but for some reason an album titled "fear in a handful of dust" sounds better in 2020.

Did anyone check out his folktronica alias, Figueroa?

...more like crowdfunded Brazilian psych-folk, actually. It’s way better than I expected it to be.

Thanks for the recommendation! This is very different, but very good. Amon Tobin was one of my favorite artists of the early 2000s, but I drifted away after Supermodified.

The vinyl of this just popped up on his bandcamp overnight, if anyone's interested.

https://figueroacali.bandcamp.com/album/the-world-as-we-know-it

Man, I just heard this album and it's super, super rad.

Listened to Permutation today and it sounded amazing. I totally respect all the directions he went post-sampling, but it's pretty incredible what he was able to with just a sampler and an old DAW. When people talk about the in awed tones about the sample collages on Endtroducing, that's how I feel about this one. Maybe there are fewer layers, but so many elements coming in and out. And more than anything it feels like a love letter to jazz drumming, the way he uses bebop solos as beats just speaks to my soul.

I checked out Supermodified and it didn't hit as hard as I remembered -- turns out that's because 4 Ton Mantis isn't on the streaming version (presumably because of that Apollo 100 sample?). That track really held the whole thing together.

i feel like the more downtempo tracks have help up better... Slowly, Chocolate Lovely, Natureland; I can still go and enjoy immensely without feeling like time has taken away anything from them.

4 Ton Mantis being memory-holed is a crime against art, yes, but c'mon, Get Your Snack On? Slowly??? great album. I remember the first time I put this album on, just being mystified by how it sounded like a dense thicket compared to the openness and clarity of Permutation. Top-tier sound design on all his stuff.

Each was better than the last: Out From Out Where was my favorite... and then I just completely lost interest.

I played Permutation the other day and was floored by how well it held up. I then dove into some DJ Vadim.

Ninja Tune at that time ruled so hard.

the first DJ Vadim album is so brilliant. It’s like the inverse of endtroducing’s cinematic thing, dark corners in cluttered rooms, creaking chairs, spooky liturgical chanting, all those weird voicemails, great bitcrushed jazz funk samples, such a trip

Another album I still love from that era was Journeyman's National Hijinx.

NEOTROPIC

Did someone say Journeyman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRAgfffI0lY

I haven't heard that song in ages. Was always a big fan of Frankland's main project Woob as well, which is still very active.

I like how a lot of the Ninja Tune aesthetic in those early years included a lot of field samples, discordant loops, and drum chaos over expansive beautiful ambient drones and/or cozy jazz loops. Unlike a lot of stuff released in that era they didn't seem to be out to relax the listener. Neotropic is also a favorite of that time.

Nova from Permutation saved my life one night not long ago. i was spiraling hard and it just made everything ok for about twenty minutes. it was pretty incredible.

so a local indie theater was showing a film from the 80s that i checkout, not knowing a lot about it; and it has this score - specifically this kind repeating of guitar riff that instantly jumped out at me as something I'd heard before. took me maybe 15 mins once i got home to figure out what it was - Cujo's Paris Streatham had used the soundtrack from Paris, Texas for the man riff. i'd sort of forgot about that Cujo album, but it still holds up pretty well despite it's age/simplicity.

Nova from Permutation saved my life one night not long ago. i was spiraling hard and it just made everything ok for about twenty minutes. it was pretty incredible.