Personally, I'd say classic; but then I'm not the best person to ask. I love the stuff... that, and I run the psychedelic trance board here on Lusenet. (plug alert! ;) But then, I live in the US, where critics haven't had a chance to accept - then reject - it as a fad. So, what do you Brits think?
― Snow Dog, Tuesday, 23 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
On the other hand, in many ways I think Goa trance is a style of diminishing returns. The first time I heard a really good track (say by Hallucinogen or Astral Projection or Cosmosis etc. etc.) the complexity is quite stunning and I thought "Wow, how do they do that?" But after a while it just seems run-of-the-mill no matter how accomplished it is.
― Tim, Tuesday, 23 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Omar, Tuesday, 23 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Anyway my playing habits speak for themselves. I have one Goa compilation, from 96 or 97 - it had some huge simurg creature on the front. It all sounded quite pretty and took up walkman space for a few weeks and then I got a bit bored of it - interestingly at the time I was mad for the Basic Channel stuff so maybe these two styles are simply incompatible to the human brain. I'd like to hear some more but unless I can sort out an FTP on my speedy work connection it seems unlikely.
― Tom, Tuesday, 23 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
True Tom, although don't underestimate the way trance is used outside the club-context, esp. as a soundtrack to driving a car, programming, going to the supermarket. I like the incompatibility theory re. trance/B.C. Must be true ;)
― Omar, Wednesday, 24 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
When I think about basic channel I think about the claim you often find mathematicians making, of the abstract beauty they find in the patterns and solutions of their work, a kind of beauty separate from the elicitation or exercise of 'emotions', though it may cause extreme emotional states.
― Tom, Wednesday, 24 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
oh yeah, i was going to say how heavy rythmic long lasting beats from trance music with escalating climbs and breaks fits with human nature and it just feels good listening to something so primal, then our brain is intrigued how something so technological can be something so primal, or am i overthinking it and you guys just think trance is a new type of music like acid rock circa 1985.
― Zel, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
also, ive found J-Pop has the same sort of euphoric thing, its basically dance music so it has some of the same sounds, but the fact that you have NO IDEA at all what they are even trying to say makes it more trancey, you jsut get the sound of a happy persons voice without thinking about the incredibly lame and cliche things she could be saying, heh im jsut being lame and inadvertantly changing the topic repeatedly.
ill find some basic channel
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
(btw on The Wire site there is a brilliant article on Basic Channel in the archives. Essential reading)
― Omar, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― MrMagoo, Wednesday, 5 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
bump cuz of other recent "Maligned Genres" thread
post good goa trance trax here plz
― broken breakbeat (sleeve), Saturday, 20 May 2023 19:39 (eleven months ago) link
I’ve been working on a mix of my favorite goa trance records from 1990ish to 1998ish and I’ve been frequently floored by the timelessness of many of these records. Techno pretension seriously maligned this stuff.
― Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 13 April 2024 16:43 (four weeks ago) link
post it here when you’re done!
― brimstead, Saturday, 13 April 2024 16:45 (four weeks ago) link
yes please do!
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 13 April 2024 16:53 (four weeks ago) link
It was mentioned here on another thread but Dave Mothersole’s Roots of Goa Trance mix and accompanying words are an interesting place to start. I was familiar with him through his tech house interests, Kiss FM radio deejaying and writings for Muzik so this was pretty eye opening.
― mmmm, Saturday, 13 April 2024 17:18 (four weeks ago) link
http://www.bleep43.com/bleep43/2010/4/14/unveiling-the-secret-the-roots-of-trance.html
http://www.bleep43.com/podcast/2010/4/14/podcast-165-the-roots-of-trance.html
― mmmm, Saturday, 13 April 2024 17:19 (four weeks ago) link
Would also love to hear your mix Allen!
― mmmm, Saturday, 13 April 2024 17:26 (four weeks ago) link
Aw, thanks for the motivation to finish!
http://www.bleep43.com/bleep43/2010/4/14/unveiling-the-secret-the-roots-of-trance.htmlhttp://www.bleep43.com/podcast/2010/4/14/podcast-165-the-roots-of-trance.html
I loved both of these. Thank you! Unfortunately the referenced interview with Laurent returns a 404. I am going to dig around the Wayback Machine.
― Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 13 April 2024 20:55 (four weeks ago) link
It’s really cool to revisit this stuff yeah - I have assembled a crate of about a thousand goa tracks ranging from the 1990 EBM era to the circa 1998-ish Pleiadians era, and I always have an absolute blast making mixes out of that material.
To me this era/scene is one of the highlights of electronic music history, and I never even went to Goa.
― Siegbran, Sunday, 14 April 2024 20:21 (three weeks ago) link
love this stuff too
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 14 April 2024 20:29 (three weeks ago) link